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    TownerFan got a reaction from Once in John Williams has never worked with Martin Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola.   
    It’s well known that Spielberg attended one Taxi Driver scoring session, and that famous conversation he had with ol’ Benny (which is amusing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s one of those “print the legend” anecdotes). I’ll check Smith’s biography if there are any mention of Steven talking about CE3K with Herrmann, but from memory I don’t seem to remember any.
     
    Btw, in Mike Matessino’s liner notes for the 40th anniversary release, it’s stated that Spielberg and Williams started discussing CE3K in “late 1975” when Jaws was still in theaters. 
     
    Of course it’s entirely possible that Spielberg might have thought of asking Herrmann before offering the film to JW, but it seems extremely unlikely and there are no confirmed records anywhere besides some possibly apocryphal stories.
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    TownerFan got a reaction from karelm in John Williams has never worked with Martin Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola.   
    Goldsmith and Spielberg collaborated very closely on Poltergeist, as Steven supervised the whole postproduction with Frank Marshall (Hooper wasn’t involved in postproduction).
     
    By contrast, Spielberg didn’t oversee the scoring process of Twilight Zone The Movie, which was left in the hands of Joe Dante.
     
    I wouldn’t dare to compare Spielberg’s use of music in The Color Purple with Scorsese’s in Silence—two radically different approaches. Quincy Jones et al. scored the film really in a very traditional Hollywood way, with lots of music from top to bottom and even a couple of sequences almost akin to musical, while Scorsese’s film has very few score and it’s mostly atmospheric.

    False. Spielberg and Williams started working on CE3K immediately after Jaws.
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Miguel Andrade in John Williams has never worked with Martin Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola.   
    Goldsmith and Spielberg collaborated very closely on Poltergeist, as Steven supervised the whole postproduction with Frank Marshall (Hooper wasn’t involved in postproduction).
     
    By contrast, Spielberg didn’t oversee the scoring process of Twilight Zone The Movie, which was left in the hands of Joe Dante.
     
    I wouldn’t dare to compare Spielberg’s use of music in The Color Purple with Scorsese’s in Silence—two radically different approaches. Quincy Jones et al. scored the film really in a very traditional Hollywood way, with lots of music from top to bottom and even a couple of sequences almost akin to musical, while Scorsese’s film has very few score and it’s mostly atmospheric.

    False. Spielberg and Williams started working on CE3K immediately after Jaws.
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Ricard in John Williams has never worked with Martin Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola.   
    Goldsmith and Spielberg collaborated very closely on Poltergeist, as Steven supervised the whole postproduction with Frank Marshall (Hooper wasn’t involved in postproduction).
     
    By contrast, Spielberg didn’t oversee the scoring process of Twilight Zone The Movie, which was left in the hands of Joe Dante.
     
    I wouldn’t dare to compare Spielberg’s use of music in The Color Purple with Scorsese’s in Silence—two radically different approaches. Quincy Jones et al. scored the film really in a very traditional Hollywood way, with lots of music from top to bottom and even a couple of sequences almost akin to musical, while Scorsese’s film has very few score and it’s mostly atmospheric.

    False. Spielberg and Williams started working on CE3K immediately after Jaws.
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    TownerFan reacted to MrScratch in Announcing 'SCORE MASTERS: Celebrating John Williams & Jerry Goldsmith' (Online Event premiering Feb 8, 2021)   
    Finally got around to checking this out today, it was wonderful.  Love this picture of Williams, never seen it before.

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    TownerFan reacted to Smeltington in Announcing 'SCORE MASTERS: Celebrating John Williams & Jerry Goldsmith' (Online Event premiering Feb 8, 2021)   
    I really enjoyed this podcast! It was cool to see the guests spark memories and anecdotes from each other, and it was so refreshing to hear a chat like this meant for true score fans. We don't always get to hear a John Williams discussion for grownups    I loved hearing what he was like as a professional musician, from the perspective of other musicians, who spoke pretty candidly rather than just heaping praise on him. And it was indeed well produced, with the editing and well chosen photos. After the mention early on that the discussion would last an hour, I was pleased to see it actually ran 2 hours    I look forward to checking out some of your other podcasts!
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    TownerFan reacted to Disco Stu in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    Looking at the BSO archive site, I was surprised to find that Williams has only conducted the full BSO in concert once actually in Symphony Hall.  He's conducted them many times at Tanglewood since the late 80s, but only once in their home venue.
     



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    TownerFan reacted to Once in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    Over the last couple of months I've been listening to the 'The Lagacy of John Williams' podcast and I'm so freaking impressed. It's wonderful to hear qualified people discuss my favourite composer. Especially all the amazing session players and other people who have actually worked with him.
    I've recommended it to many of my friends. Maurizio Caschetto, thank you so much for doing what you do, and doing it so well. 
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    TownerFan reacted to karelm in The Classical Music Recommendation Thread   
    Kevin Puts' very fine Piano Concerto.  He is also a big time JW fan having grown up with the original trilogy, Raiders, E.T., the golden age and you can hear that in his music.  Puts was born in 1972 and won the Pulitzer Prize in 2012 for his opera, Silent Night. 
     
     
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    TownerFan reacted to Bayesian in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    Great interview with AHP, @TownerFan! Neat to hear another aspect of JW's time with the BPO and lovely to hear her respect for the composer (and vice versa) and a bit about the backstory of her harp concerto.
     
    It was interesting to hear more than a couple references to JW conducting the Boston Symphony Orchestra. To my knowledge, there are no recordings where he's credited with the BSO. Are there any? (Other than Schindler's List, maybe?)
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    TownerFan reacted to Disco Stu in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    Looking forward to listening!  The concerto JW wrote for her is one of my favorites of his concert works.
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    TownerFan got a reaction from BuzzLightyear in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2021/02/22/ann-hobson-pilot-podcast/
     
    I hope you'll all enjoy this talk with a true pioneering woman in the music field.
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Bayesian in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2021/02/22/ann-hobson-pilot-podcast/
     
    I hope you'll all enjoy this talk with a true pioneering woman in the music field.
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    TownerFan got a reaction from BrotherSound in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2021/02/22/ann-hobson-pilot-podcast/
     
    I hope you'll all enjoy this talk with a true pioneering woman in the music field.
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Ricard in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2021/02/22/ann-hobson-pilot-podcast/
     
    I hope you'll all enjoy this talk with a true pioneering woman in the music field.
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Falstaft in The Legacy of John Williams - New Blog on JW   
    https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2021/02/22/ann-hobson-pilot-podcast/
     
    I hope you'll all enjoy this talk with a true pioneering woman in the music field.
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    TownerFan reacted to BrotherSound in JWFan EXCLUSIVE: The Rise of Skywalker Partial Cue List Revealed   
    I'm not sure about the technicalities, but there's a few listings like this in the GEMA Repertoire database for TROS that seem to be there to account for reused themes from previous episodes rather than actual film cues. There's also 'Kylo's Theme', 'The Resistance Theme', and 'Poe's Theme'.
     
    So, I noticed some missing known cue titles, but they all have something in common:
    Main Title The Resistance Theme [actual TROS cue, not the TFA concert arrangement] Return to Tatooine End Credits  
    They're all identical to previously registered John Williams titles, which I guess the GEMA database must prevent. That would also explain why 'Climbing the Mountain' (a.k.a. The Jedi Steps) is noticeably absent from the Force Awakens cues that show up here, since there's a Close Encounters cue with that exact title. And 'Return to Tatooine' is also the name of an Attack of the Clones OST track.
     
    So, here's an updated list of just the film cues, removing what seems to be entries strictly for the reuse of themes ('The Resistance Theme', etc.), with those missing entries added in:
     
     
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    TownerFan reacted to Jay in JWFan EXCLUSIVE: The Rise of Skywalker Partial Cue List Revealed   
    I think it proves that in Williams' head now at this point, the theme we think of as "The Rebel Fanfare" he thinks of as "The Millennium Falcon Theme"
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    TownerFan got a reaction from crumbs in TROS seems to have been temped with Gordy Haab's Battlefront II score   
    Haab’s creative voice? He was briefed to imitate Williams’s Star Wars style as closely and faithfully possible since day 1, as the music he was writing had to seamlessly merge with Williams’s cues from the films. This isn’t to diminish Gordy’s work—he’s a gifted composer and he knows how to write for orchestra, as these scores show well. But his job here was to emulate Williams’s style and voice as faithfully as he could. Hence, it’s not out of this world that he, together with his team, learned every trope to sound as Williams-y as possible to the point of sounding “more regal than the King”.
     
    Also, it’s entirely possible that some of Battlefront cues ended in JJ baby’s temp score and Williams followed the template to save time (he rewrote many cues for IX up until the last minute).
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Holko in TROS seems to have been temped with Gordy Haab's Battlefront II score   
    Haab’s creative voice? He was briefed to imitate Williams’s Star Wars style as closely and faithfully possible since day 1, as the music he was writing had to seamlessly merge with Williams’s cues from the films. This isn’t to diminish Gordy’s work—he’s a gifted composer and he knows how to write for orchestra, as these scores show well. But his job here was to emulate Williams’s style and voice as faithfully as he could. Hence, it’s not out of this world that he, together with his team, learned every trope to sound as Williams-y as possible to the point of sounding “more regal than the King”.
     
    Also, it’s entirely possible that some of Battlefront cues ended in JJ baby’s temp score and Williams followed the template to save time (he rewrote many cues for IX up until the last minute).
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Raiders of the SoundtrArk in TROS seems to have been temped with Gordy Haab's Battlefront II score   
    Haab’s creative voice? He was briefed to imitate Williams’s Star Wars style as closely and faithfully possible since day 1, as the music he was writing had to seamlessly merge with Williams’s cues from the films. This isn’t to diminish Gordy’s work—he’s a gifted composer and he knows how to write for orchestra, as these scores show well. But his job here was to emulate Williams’s style and voice as faithfully as he could. Hence, it’s not out of this world that he, together with his team, learned every trope to sound as Williams-y as possible to the point of sounding “more regal than the King”.
     
    Also, it’s entirely possible that some of Battlefront cues ended in JJ baby’s temp score and Williams followed the template to save time (he rewrote many cues for IX up until the last minute).
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Jurassic Shark in TROS seems to have been temped with Gordy Haab's Battlefront II score   
    Haab’s creative voice? He was briefed to imitate Williams’s Star Wars style as closely and faithfully possible since day 1, as the music he was writing had to seamlessly merge with Williams’s cues from the films. This isn’t to diminish Gordy’s work—he’s a gifted composer and he knows how to write for orchestra, as these scores show well. But his job here was to emulate Williams’s style and voice as faithfully as he could. Hence, it’s not out of this world that he, together with his team, learned every trope to sound as Williams-y as possible to the point of sounding “more regal than the King”.
     
    Also, it’s entirely possible that some of Battlefront cues ended in JJ baby’s temp score and Williams followed the template to save time (he rewrote many cues for IX up until the last minute).
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    TownerFan reacted to publicist in Announcing 'SCORE MASTERS: Celebrating John Williams & Jerry Goldsmith' (Online Event premiering Feb 8, 2021)   
    Slatkin for sure was the *warmest* interviewee of the lot. I picked up all the important characteristics of JG/JW over the years, so these things tend to become a bit repetitive, this was still a nice mix and a) a reminder that many of these guys will not be around much longer, so it's important to record their aural history and b) that session musicians like Lang probably are a treasure trove of given the time to prepare their answers. I'd push for more anecdotal stories, because they often can fill blind spots. 
     
    A belated trivia: someone working at Universal once revealed on FSM that he overheard Goldsmith and Williams in the Universal canteen, Goldsmith complaining to Williams about Ridley Scott around the time of his Legend rejection. So it seems there was a certain social overlap between them, more than the talk let on.
     
     
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    TownerFan got a reaction from Martinland in Announcing 'SCORE MASTERS: Celebrating John Williams & Jerry Goldsmith' (Online Event premiering Feb 8, 2021)   
    Thank you very much for this truly touching thought, Ricard. Much appreciated. That’s the gist of what we were trying to do.
     

    His reps were informed of the event and I guess they told him. I honestly don’t know if the Maestro would sit down to watch it, however. I guess he has music to write first! 🙂
     
    Btw, I do remember very well meeting you during the intermission of the Saturday concert in Vienna, Martinland! We had a brief but lovely chat together with Marian and a couple of other nice fellows. What a day that was.
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    TownerFan reacted to GerateWohl in Announcing 'SCORE MASTERS: Celebrating John Williams & Jerry Goldsmith' (Online Event premiering Feb 8, 2021)   
    At Last I managed to watch whole feature and it was really amazing (therefore the end titles were chosen perfectly). Big compliment to the producers, first of all Maurizio who brought it to this forum. 
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