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    9 hours ago, Anka said:

    Nice work Mr. Breathmask! I'm a true fan of your job restoring the music to the film. Actually I never realised that in the liberation of the Baby T-Rex by Nick (around 4:25 in the video) a bottle of wine and a small pot (the one which can be seen in the picture above) appear in the scene! Which has no sense in the final version of the film haha. Now I know that they belong this cut scene of Ludlow getting drunk.

     

    Why, thank you. Now you know!

     

    I finally got around to making some new videos based on your suggestions. First up, @JohnnyD's resequencing of The Hunt:

     

    On 27-4-2017 at 2:46 AM, JohnnyD said:

     

    Granted, this is a guess, but I think it should be done this way, and if you can re-upload the sequence this way, would you? Here it is: the sequence starts with the shot of Nick setting up his camera, followed by the shot of the heroes viewing the hunters driving towards the stampeding dinosaurs. After that, the rest of the sequence follows as is in the finished film. The shot of the jeep and bike jumping, followed by the rest of the sequencing shots. Try it that way, and I think the music will sync up even more with the sequence. Give it a shot.

     

     

    I can see where you were going with this, but the musical shift at 0:27 doesn't really make sense in the middle of that shot. It lines up nicely at 0:38, though. But there's lots of places where it feels just slightly off.

     

    As I was editing this again, I realised there's a bunch of weird continuitiy errors in the sequence. Roland's hat switches on and off his head, the guy being punched through the jeep is Carter, who is supposed to be in the car with Dieter at this point, and when we cut to Dieter and Carter in their car, there's a shot that clearly shows Burke driving behind them in the position he's in when he arrives at the Pachy.

     

    This led me to believe the original sequencing might have been more like this:

     

     

    But then, when you put The Hunt to it, it doesn't really sync up either. I know I excluded the heroes overlooking the chaos, but that didn't help either. And I'm starting to wonder if the fade out at the end is supposed to play over Burke's arrival. But then why have Roland direct the snagger to the pachy? Questions, questions... So I guess the video above serves the purpose of both showing you a possible alternate sequencing and demonstrating how impossible it is to properly sync this thing. :( 

     

    On 29-4-2017 at 10:56 AM, Luke Skywalker said:

    If you dont mind the suggestion, i think maybe the cues weren't meant to overlap (though they mix very well, really) because i feel that the final infant theme part comes too early, and the music ends too soon.

     

    Can you check (i did, and i think it fits) to start Part II just when the 1st rex appears in the window and roars behind them? The infant theme starts just as the infant mourns (camera inside the truck). and the cue ends with the pecussion fading out as eddie tells them the rexes are gone. The final infant theme ends justs as sarah releases it. 

     

    I tried this, but it doesn't work as well. If you do this, a lot of music seems to go on for too long. There's wondrous infant music for Sarah staring down a full grown T-Rex and the percussion that follows that doesn't end until we're a short bit into the next scene with Eddie and Kelly, which is a bit awkward. I also maintain that when to cues are labeled Part I and Part II, they're supposed to segue into each other. So I'm sticking to the original version I made of this (although I've updated the transition, so it should be a little more accurate now). If you really want to see this alternate interpretation though, you can do so here.

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    14. The Long Grass **/Finding Camp Jurassic *
    10M2 Steiner in the Grass
    10M3/11M1 After the Fall

    Steiner in the Grass, named for its homage to Max Steiner’s King Kong music, plays mostly as is, but it’s slightly longer than the accompanying scene. The scene was likely trimmed and some of the score was removed with it.

     

    After the group slides down the hill, the next cue starts, overlapping with Steiner in the Grass. The opening atmospherics are longer on album than they are in the film. There may have been some trimming at the start of the scene. Nick then moves into the island’s abandoned worker village. The adventure theme from Jurassic Park reappears as Nick discovers a mural painting of the original park. There seems to be a slight pause in the score when Nick opens the door, as the music goes out of sync there. I have recreated the pause by editing the music accordingly. The final part of the track, where the adventure theme reappears over drums is unused. It starts right as Nick switches the power back on. The music ends at a slightly odd place, so I do wonder if this scene was re-edited after Williams scored it, but I have decided to let the scene play as it does in the film.

  3. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword

     

    In typical Guy Ritchie fashion, the legend of King Arthur is told as the story of a street thug rising to become a king. There's a bunch of Ritchieisms that work well and I loved seeing an unabashed high fantasy tale in the cinema (this is not your dour, "gritty" Clive Owen King Arthur). But good Lord, this is one of the most overstuffed and poorly paced films in recent memory. Clocking in at 126 minutes, this movie feels like it's at least 45 minutes longer. And it's a shame, because there's a decent cast, good effects work and a whole bunch of lovely costumes. The potential is there, but throughout the picture I kept thinking this should have been a six or even eight-hour miniseries. How anyone came to the decision to stuff all this in a mere two hours of screen time in this golden age of television is beyond me.

  4. 19 hours ago, Stefancos said:

    Better than the first? In what way?

     

    Well, for one thing, I didn't give a shit about any of these characters during the first movie. Here, not only do I care, but every single character has a story arc with a beginning, a middle and an end. It's very well handled. I also felt the movie wasn't trying too hard like the first one was. There's a lot less mindless screaming this time. In terms of character and story, I found Vol. 2 all around to be a step up from the previous film. And even with the progression made in this film, there's still places to go with these characters, which makes me look forward to Vol. 3.

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    9. Spilling Petrol and Horning In *
    5M3/6M1 Spilling Petrol
    5M3/6M1 Part II Horning In

    Here we get to another sequence that was quite heavily cut down: the nighttime camp sequence. The conversation overlooking the camp is unscored in the film. When we cut to Ludlow down below, we're already 45 seconds into the track. Between these scenes, the August 22 script features a lot more stuff. There's much more dialogue between the team on the ridge, featuring Nick recounting a previous encounter with Roland and Sarah mentioning her fear of heights. Then there is a scene where Ludlow gets drunk and accidentally breaks the baby T-Rex’s leg (so this explains that it wasn’t Roland or Ajay who broke the baby’s leg to get it to cry for its parents - which always seemed particularly cruel to me - and why Ludlow is staggering about as he gives his business presentation).

     

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    There is no indication these parts were scored. As scripted, the baby T-Rex scene would certainly be longer than 45 seconds. But the very next part has Nick and Sarah sabotaging the InGen group’s vehicles and draining their fuel tanks. Evidence of these scenes exists in published stills as well as of course the cue title Spilling Petrol.

     

    55	IN THE CAMP,
    
    	they creep along, hiding behind a stack of fuel barrels. They
    	lean around the edge for a look. They're directly behind the
    	row of vehicles.
    
    	They move into the open, covering the ground between them and
    	the jeep. Reaching them, Nick hits the dirt and wriggles
    	under the first one. Sarah stands lookout.
    
    	UNDER THE JEEP,
    
    	Nick pulls the bolt cutter from his back pocket. He squirms
    	along until he finds the jeep's fuel line --
    
    	-- and he snips it. He ducks out of the way just as the
    	stream of fuel begins to pour into the dirt.
    
    	SARAH,
    
    	moves slowly down the line, standing watch as Nick crawls out
    	from under the first jeep and proceeds to the second.
    
    	She hears another SNIP, then keeps moving, to cover him as he
    	moves to the third.

    Breakin1lg.jpg

     

    Breakingin3.jpg

     

    So I assume the first part of Spilling Petrol was meant to accompany at least this last scene that was cut. So rather than starting the track early and having the first part play over the conversation atop the ridge, this video starts with almost a minute of blank screen, representing the deleted scene above.

     

    The sequence cutting between Ludlow’s speech and Nick and Sarah’s trek across the camp was also probably trimmed at various points. Because the rest of the track, leading up to the Triceratops charging into the camp, is heavily edited. I don’t know quite where and if the picture cuts coincide with the music edits, but for the purpose of this video I have synced up the score to the places it appears in the film as much as possible, so you at least get a sense of how much was removed. The August 22 script that I've been referring to doesn't actually feature Ludlow's speech (most of it is featured in the board room scene at the start of the film instead). In this version, he is talking to Burke about the progress they've made when the triceratops bursts through their tent.

     

    So clearly, this is a part of the film that went through many changes late in the game.

     

    The final part of the track, Horning In, underscoring the dinosaurs rampaging across the camp and Nick freeing the baby T-Rex to the sounds of the infant motif appears pretty much as written, save for a few micro-edits around effects shots.

  6. On 27-4-2017 at 2:46 AM, JohnnyD said:

    Your video of The Hunt is good. However, it is better with the sequence as seen in the finished film. Now, if you want it as close as possible to how the Maestro originally scored it, I have a suggestion. Granted, this is a guess, but I think it should be done this way, and if you can re-upload the sequence this way, would you? Here it is: the sequence starts with the shot of Nick setting up his camera, followed by the shot of the heroes viewing the hunters driving towards the stampeding dinosaurs. After that, the rest of the sequence follows as is in the finished film. The shot of the jeep and bike jumping, followed by the rest of the sequencing shots. Try it that way, and I think the music will sync up even more with the sequence. Give it a shot.

     

    I could give it a go, but I probably won't get around to it before the weekend.

     

    On 27-4-2017 at 5:02 AM, crumbs said:

    I think if we can determine the music that originally accompanied the "epic" wide shot of the herd being chased (tracked with the big statement of the main theme in the final film), it will help place the original edit of the sequence.

     

    Yes. As it is now, it also feels odd to me that the only "reaction" shot we see of the hero group is the back of their heads. Which is why I think I may need to put the shot of Nick back in.

     

    On 27-4-2017 at 5:10 AM, Selina Kyle said:

    The music doesn't really fit with the Burke pachy scene, does it? He's like whispering to the other guy about the distinctive dome-shaped skull and then there's pounding Williams action music on the score? There are no break points in that cue, so...

     

    On 27-4-2017 at 7:43 AM, Incanus said:

    That pachycephalosaurus exposition is among the oddest moments for the original cue to underscore, Burke's explanation accompanied by this tense and kinetic music. Which makes me wonder what did the original cut Williams scored contain.

     

    Yeah, that scene gave me a headache. But it feels like it has the most "subdued" part of the track underneath it now. And it still feels a bit off. Of course, the music is now mixed much, much louder than it would be in the film, so that might give you a skewed view of the scene.

     

    22 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:

    Could Williams have score this somehow as diegetic music?

     

    This I highly doubt. But it does have a notable constant drive compared to other tracks, rather than a lot of sync points. Then again, I think the action music in this score overall has less sync points than, say, its prdecessor.

     

    That being said, it's on to the next track!

     

     

    8. Big Feet *
    5M2 Big Feet

    The next cue starts soon after where The Round Up ended. As our heroes look down on the events below, Williams switches from action to drama. Below in the valley, Roland, Burke and Ajay are huddled over a T-Rex footprint. After Burke identifies the print, there’s about 25 seconds of unused music. In the script, the scene proceeds with Ajay explaining where the Rex went by examining the prints:

     

    	AJAY, Roland’s tracker, studies the rex’s trail. It goes
    	sideways, bisecting the game trail.
    
    				AJAY 
    		He sprang from the foliage. Picked
    		off a calf -- that’s this smaller
    		set of tracks that disappears. Then
    		carried it back into the bush. That
    		way.
    
    	Roland gets up and goes to his jeep. At the back, he opens a
    	wood and leather case, revealing --
    
    	-- his gun. It’s an antique elephant gun, double barreled
    	.600 Nitro Express. Nearly a hundred years old, its rosewood
    	stock is worn buttery smooth, but is nicked and scarred by
    	two lifetimes of campaigns. Cape buffalo are delicately
    	engraved along its silver breech.

     

    It is quite possible this was still in the version of the film Williams scored. After this, Roland heads to his car to get his rifle, which is where the film picks up. As the cue ends, we get to the scene with Dieter, Burke and the compy, which was scripted to go before the footprint scene (notice how Dieter and Burke end their scene in the positions they start in when Roland calls Burke over), but I see no indication that suggests these scenes were in another order when Williams scored this sequence.

  7. 48 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said:

    In your edited version, the pachycephalosaurus scenes dont make sense, as the one captured by the truck is the one that attacks burke previously. (Roland says "Snagger, Friar tuck's on the loose")

     

    Yes. The screenplay (the August 22, 1996 version, which appears to be the most recent version that's available) also has the sequence in the order they appear in the film. But then there's the storyboards on the Lost World Bluray that has the sequence in an alternate order. In it, the dinosaur is caught by the snagger, then escapes from its pen and headbutts a guy through a car (you can view these boards here, but they are undated and end after the car stunt).

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