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Perhaps some of these guys are less concerned with how their scores sound outside of the film nowadays. It really seems to me that much of the music composed for films since the early eighties is blandness personified. It works well enough as accompaniment to a scene without actually doing anything too daring (like actually adding much to the scene!)
The good old art of composing memorable scores is dying a death. Name one new-generation composer (anyone under 60 qualifies) who has produced a really memorable "classic" score in the last 5 years. It's all synths, guitars, drum tracks, and synthi-orchestras. Half the time these guys can't even read music.
OK, now I feel like a grouchy old man. Grumble grumble!
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By the way, this seems as good a thread as any to ask this:
Has anyone seen Starship Troopers 2 yet? It's been out for about a week, direct to DVD. It's directed by Phil Tippett so I'm expecting great things of the visuals if nothing else. Hope the budget wasn't too tiny given it wasn't released theatrically.
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Please tell me why other directors can't seem to make films of the quality of your classic Showgirls. How do you work your movie magic?
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It's a pretty good compilation to get. Although most of the music is pretty easy to find elsewhere it's a nice way to get the Family Plot end credits, Black Sunday suite, Rare Breed suite (the ONLY way to get this I think!), and if I remember rightly I think it has the film version of the end credits to Temple of Doom (with Shortround's theme in counterpoint with the Raiders march, I think. The Temple of Doom soundtrack CD is a different recording without Shortround's bit). It's a good way of getting these odd pieces without buying 10 different CDs!
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Episode III - I hope, oh, please, please, please!!!!!!
- SeekUYoda, who thinks it will be his "Art of Fugue"
I hope not!!! Didn't Bach die before finishing it?????
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Sure. It's on it's way!
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Sure. Can I email you the attachment?
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Sorcerer's Stone is still my favorite because it maintains that sense of wonder and amazement for the entire film. John Williams' score certainly helped.

Neil - who concurs

I know what you mean. I just find POA so satisfying as a film that it is head and shoulders over the other two however. When I watch the first two I can almost hear the pages of the book turning. I can also clearly sense when chapters end, which is slightly tiresome in a film. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the first two films, it's just that POA is so much more stylish. I love that it doesn't feel so much like an adaptation, but rather an exciting new re-telling. Now that I've seen it (twice!) I am disappointed that Cuaron won't be directing book 4.
Now who could direct book 5? Tim Burton? Terry Gilliam? Jean Pierre Jeunet? I have every faith that Gilliam would make a spectacular movie. I'm just not sure it would fit with the canon...
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I must confess the Rancor definitely needs to be fixed IMO. I remember thinking it looked pretty dodgy back in 1983! I wouldn't mind a CGI Rancor. As long as they don't have it doing a song and dance or give it a giant beak.
James (who liked Sy Snootles better before the CGI job)
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QuestionMarkMan,
You can d/l iTunes and buy the 1998 re-release from the music store. They have the full CD for $9.99.
Now, what is this single that came on the original LP?
My CD of the original soundtrack release includes the disco version as a bonus track at the end. It was also reworked by Geoff Love on his wonderful but horribly dated 1978 album "Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Other Disco Galactic Hits".
Gotta love Meco! Look at what he started!!!! (I DO love Meco! Those arrangements of his REALLY take me back!)
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Well it was a few years ago I heard the Kane rumour, and thankfully nothing has materialised yet. Hopefully it was abandoned. Now digital remastering, there's something more productive!
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I thought so!
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Someone just posted this "review" on Amazon. It looks like speculation, but I wonder if any of it is true. Also what is his source???
I have heard there are changes that have been made to make these movies match with the prequels visually and story wise. Let's hope so!Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope:
1.The Imperial March has been added to Darth Vader's first
appearance on Princess Leia's ship. 2.The lightsaber effects have been redone and the frame jumps of lightsabers being turned on has been removed. 3. There's a new scene which has been shot during the filming of Episode III in which the Emperor dissolves the Senate. 4. The bleeding arm on the floor in the Cantina has been replaced with a non-bleeding arm because it's now canon that lightsabers cauterize wounds. 5. The original shooting scene between Han and Greedo has been restored. 6. When the Death Star destroys Alderaan there's a new scene of Yoda's reaction to the disturbence in the Force that is created by all those deaths and then it cuts to Obi-Wan reacting to it as
well. 7. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for
use with all the stormtroopers and Boba Fett in all the movies. 8. The Obi-Wan/Vader duel has been remade. A modified version of Duel of the Fates is being considered for the scene. 9.The Death Star battle is more epic 10. There's a new scene with Vader goes to Coruscant in the same building at the end of Attack of the Clones and inform the Emperor of a new potential who is strong in the Force. 11. Chewbacca now gets a medal.
Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
1.The battle of Hoth is enhanced with a ground battle between the Rebel soldiers and stormtroopers 2. Ian McDiarmid has refilmed scenes as the Emperor. The conversations between Vader and Palpatine is now longer and features a few connections to the prequels. 3. Yoda's face is now animated in CG allowing more expression of emotions.
Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
1.Jabba the Hutt is now a combination of the puppet and
CGI. 2. The Rancor is CGI 3. Yoda is CGI. Yoda disappears leaving his clothes behind like Obi-Wan now. 4. The love theme Across the Stars is inserted when Luke is talking with Leia about their mother. 5. In the battle of Endor there are thousands of Ewoks and they are more vicious 6. Lightsaber effects shadows on the floor are gone. 7. During Anakin's death scene it starts with a sad rendition of the Imperial March and slowly evolves into Anakin's Theme. 8. Sebastian Shaw who played Anakin when he was unmasked has been replaced with Hayden
Christensen. 9.Anakin's spirit is now played by Hayden Christensen.
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I've seen colourised films before. Trouble is, if you turn down the colour on your set you just get a very watered down version, lacking all the crisp clarity of the ofiginal black and white. Colourisation is EVIL. I recently bought the DVD of Scrooge (with Alistair Simm), which had been colourised. Luckily they had the good idea of including BOTH versions on the dvd. It amazes me that people today can't suspend their disbelief any more. It was bad enough when Chaplin added dialogue (well, narration) to his 1925 classic The Gold Rush in 1942. But colourisation???? It's not as if these films are lacking in any way! The directors SPECIFICALLY shot their films to work in b&w! The use of shadows in Citizen Kane is a good example. I heard that someone was colourising THAT as well!!!!!!
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Ok, I couldn't get the attachment to work. It's a word file. How do I attach it?
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My lectures at Orange High School went down well last week. The children were all fairly receptive, particularly the 6th graders (who asked a lot of very perceptive questions).
I began by showing Chaplin's "His New Job" (1915) with Eric James' improvised piano accompaniment.
Next I showed King Kong (1933), the first appearance of Kong in which his appearance is preempted by the "footsteps" in the orchestra. Great moment for the importance of film music as "character". (Steiner)
I followed this with the death of the boy on the lilo in Jaws (1975). The shark is barely glimpsed in this scene, but the orchestra tells us clearly that it's there! (As does the enormous fountain of blood!) (Williams)
I next showed the driving scene from Psycho (1960) both with and without music. This is a clear representation of how music can almost completely create the mood of a scene! (Herrmann)
I next showed how the opening music of a film is vital in telling the audience what kind of a film they are about to see. I showed the opening credits for Heat, Carry On Teacher, Twelve Monkeys, and Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets to illustrate examples of serious, comedy, dark unpredictable, and mgical fantasy movies respectively.
I finished with the final 5 minutes of the Death Star battle from Star Wars. I included a handout (which I include here as an attachment) showing how the music reflects the onscreen action. This went down very well and made for a "climactic" close to the presentation. The kids all responded very well and will, with any luck, listen more closely to the score next time they go to the flicks.
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Ok, now that many of us have seen this film (at least once!) I feel it's time for this rather obvious poll. Remember this poll is based on your fave film (not just the soundtrack, although that may well play an important part in your answer).
If you haven't seen all three please wait until you have before voting. Er..obviously...
Let's see how Cuaron fares against Columbus. I have a suspicion I already know, but I'd love to see what you all think. All comments and reasons welcome.
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It is celesta in the key of E minor. Williams uses this trick a lot to imply both magic and Christmas. Hook and Home Alone both have similar themes to open the movies for precisely the same reason. E minor celesta music has always been synonymous with magic/Christmas ever since Tchaikovsky first introduced the instrument to the orchestra in Nutcracker (Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy is celesta in E-minor. Hey presto...Christmas magic!).
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I love the music after the line "And now we wait" where Hermione and Harry are waiting beside the whomping willow. The music accompanies bats flying through the forest. Is this music on the CD? I don't recall hearing it outside the film.
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What's wrong with the 20s? Some of my fave films came out then! The Kid, The Gold Rush, The Thief of Bhagdad, Metropolis, The Lodger, Ben Hur...
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How about the flutes in The Mine Car Chase from ToD,that's pretty impressive.
K.M.
I think they're piccolos. Well whatever, I agree KM. That has to be some of the most virtuosic writing in a Williams score!
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The best "flute" moment in a Williams-scored film for me is in Close Encounters. The start of the final scene, right before the UFOs come down and hover above the airstrip they twinkle in the night sky like shooting stars. Several of them come together as one and then seperate, shooting apart into the night sky. As that happens 3 flutes form a minor triad. Ooooh it sends chills up my spine every time. Magic.
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Pete N Tillie?? Images??? Black Sunday?????
Where did you get them??? Me want!!!

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Hey, it's the same face Sean Connery makes when he scares the seagulls on the beach in Last Crusade!