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lairdo got a reaction from Manakin Skywalker in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
Ha ha. Yes, that's me. Still at Meta working on AR interaction models. Here's a link to the team's work that I am part of it - long term research. I love it. https://tech.fb.com/inside-reality-labs-meet-the-team-thats-bringing-touch-to-the-digital-world/
Oh yes, and I'm a professor too.
Part time.
Yep, that was a blast. Having seen what they did with World of Warcraft and Guitar Hero, I knew they would be a positive on Oculus too and make just enough fun of us. I manager our customer support team at that time, and they just loved the episode.
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lairdo got a reaction from Brando in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
Ha ha. Yes, that's me. Still at Meta working on AR interaction models. Here's a link to the team's work that I am part of it - long term research. I love it. https://tech.fb.com/inside-reality-labs-meet-the-team-thats-bringing-touch-to-the-digital-world/
Oh yes, and I'm a professor too.
Part time.
Yep, that was a blast. Having seen what they did with World of Warcraft and Guitar Hero, I knew they would be a positive on Oculus too and make just enough fun of us. I manager our customer support team at that time, and they just loved the episode.
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lairdo got a reaction from A. A. Ron in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from CGCJ in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Smeltington in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
After I wrote this reply, I remembered I just had my original cassette capture retransferred over last summer when we were selling our house and digitizing all of our old photo albums. The place I used does audio too! (I was able to save recordings with my in-laws which was a nice find as they are gone a few years now.)
And, I had tossed in Raiders (as well as Young Indy's first movie of the week music which was recorded at SkySound). And I just loaded that raw cassette wav capture, and in fact, it does include the boulder pick up insert! I must have forgotten about it! As I wrote before, 2m1 does not exist on what I have.
Only a little bit.
Temple of Doom was similarly in the library in the ¼" track format. We did not use anything from that, so I never had reason to put up the reels. (We did not like to handle things that were otherwise sitting happily stored for worry of damage or adding print through.) So, I have no idea if the Palace Source music was on those tapes or not. I assume those were licensed, but there is a Williams cue that does weave into and out of it, so he must have had that in the film edit to work with. (Complete guess though.) And I know that music is on the music stems so maybe the music editor did that and gave it to Williams. The quality of the recording is pretty poor, and it's mixed fairly low in the movie anyway.
By the time of Last Crusade scoring sessions, everything was on 2" 16 or 24 track. I remember those music reels being in Ben Burtt's closet! And funnily enough, about 5 years after I left, I got a call from someone asking if I knew were they were! (I said they were in Ben's closet - which they said they had alread checked! I had only seen them but similarly we did not use anything, so they stayed in their boxes.) When I visited a number of years after that, having not been back in some time, I found that the closet itself was now gone. Matt Wood and Dave Acord had remodeled Ben Burtt's old audio suite and needed the space. So, no idea if they ever found those Last Crusade tracks tapes. I guess they found a source in any case given what ended up on the Indiana Jones 3 movie music box set.
Hopefully whenever Mike M. gets the ok, he can go back to the earliest generation masters.
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lairdo got a reaction from MrJosh in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Jay in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo reacted to BrotherSound in Raiders of the lost ark soundtrack
By the way, you can actually see where the selected take numbers were written in (by Ken Wannberg?) throughout these cues.
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lairdo reacted to The Great Gonzales in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
And co-host of the IndyCast Magic of John Williams specials.
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lairdo got a reaction from Jay in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
After I wrote this reply, I remembered I just had my original cassette capture retransferred over last summer when we were selling our house and digitizing all of our old photo albums. The place I used does audio too! (I was able to save recordings with my in-laws which was a nice find as they are gone a few years now.)
And, I had tossed in Raiders (as well as Young Indy's first movie of the week music which was recorded at SkySound). And I just loaded that raw cassette wav capture, and in fact, it does include the boulder pick up insert! I must have forgotten about it! As I wrote before, 2m1 does not exist on what I have.
Only a little bit.
Temple of Doom was similarly in the library in the ¼" track format. We did not use anything from that, so I never had reason to put up the reels. (We did not like to handle things that were otherwise sitting happily stored for worry of damage or adding print through.) So, I have no idea if the Palace Source music was on those tapes or not. I assume those were licensed, but there is a Williams cue that does weave into and out of it, so he must have had that in the film edit to work with. (Complete guess though.) And I know that music is on the music stems so maybe the music editor did that and gave it to Williams. The quality of the recording is pretty poor, and it's mixed fairly low in the movie anyway.
By the time of Last Crusade scoring sessions, everything was on 2" 16 or 24 track. I remember those music reels being in Ben Burtt's closet! And funnily enough, about 5 years after I left, I got a call from someone asking if I knew were they were! (I said they were in Ben's closet - which they said they had alread checked! I had only seen them but similarly we did not use anything, so they stayed in their boxes.) When I visited a number of years after that, having not been back in some time, I found that the closet itself was now gone. Matt Wood and Dave Acord had remodeled Ben Burtt's old audio suite and needed the space. So, no idea if they ever found those Last Crusade tracks tapes. I guess they found a source in any case given what ended up on the Indiana Jones 3 movie music box set.
Hopefully whenever Mike M. gets the ok, he can go back to the earliest generation masters.
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lairdo got a reaction from Holko in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
After I wrote this reply, I remembered I just had my original cassette capture retransferred over last summer when we were selling our house and digitizing all of our old photo albums. The place I used does audio too! (I was able to save recordings with my in-laws which was a nice find as they are gone a few years now.)
And, I had tossed in Raiders (as well as Young Indy's first movie of the week music which was recorded at SkySound). And I just loaded that raw cassette wav capture, and in fact, it does include the boulder pick up insert! I must have forgotten about it! As I wrote before, 2m1 does not exist on what I have.
Only a little bit.
Temple of Doom was similarly in the library in the ¼" track format. We did not use anything from that, so I never had reason to put up the reels. (We did not like to handle things that were otherwise sitting happily stored for worry of damage or adding print through.) So, I have no idea if the Palace Source music was on those tapes or not. I assume those were licensed, but there is a Williams cue that does weave into and out of it, so he must have had that in the film edit to work with. (Complete guess though.) And I know that music is on the music stems so maybe the music editor did that and gave it to Williams. The quality of the recording is pretty poor, and it's mixed fairly low in the movie anyway.
By the time of Last Crusade scoring sessions, everything was on 2" 16 or 24 track. I remember those music reels being in Ben Burtt's closet! And funnily enough, about 5 years after I left, I got a call from someone asking if I knew were they were! (I said they were in Ben's closet - which they said they had alread checked! I had only seen them but similarly we did not use anything, so they stayed in their boxes.) When I visited a number of years after that, having not been back in some time, I found that the closet itself was now gone. Matt Wood and Dave Acord had remodeled Ben Burtt's old audio suite and needed the space. So, no idea if they ever found those Last Crusade tracks tapes. I guess they found a source in any case given what ended up on the Indiana Jones 3 movie music box set.
Hopefully whenever Mike M. gets the ok, he can go back to the earliest generation masters.
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lairdo got a reaction from Muad'Dib in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Andy in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
After I wrote this reply, I remembered I just had my original cassette capture retransferred over last summer when we were selling our house and digitizing all of our old photo albums. The place I used does audio too! (I was able to save recordings with my in-laws which was a nice find as they are gone a few years now.)
And, I had tossed in Raiders (as well as Young Indy's first movie of the week music which was recorded at SkySound). And I just loaded that raw cassette wav capture, and in fact, it does include the boulder pick up insert! I must have forgotten about it! As I wrote before, 2m1 does not exist on what I have.
Only a little bit.
Temple of Doom was similarly in the library in the ¼" track format. We did not use anything from that, so I never had reason to put up the reels. (We did not like to handle things that were otherwise sitting happily stored for worry of damage or adding print through.) So, I have no idea if the Palace Source music was on those tapes or not. I assume those were licensed, but there is a Williams cue that does weave into and out of it, so he must have had that in the film edit to work with. (Complete guess though.) And I know that music is on the music stems so maybe the music editor did that and gave it to Williams. The quality of the recording is pretty poor, and it's mixed fairly low in the movie anyway.
By the time of Last Crusade scoring sessions, everything was on 2" 16 or 24 track. I remember those music reels being in Ben Burtt's closet! And funnily enough, about 5 years after I left, I got a call from someone asking if I knew were they were! (I said they were in Ben's closet - which they said they had alread checked! I had only seen them but similarly we did not use anything, so they stayed in their boxes.) When I visited a number of years after that, having not been back in some time, I found that the closet itself was now gone. Matt Wood and Dave Acord had remodeled Ben Burtt's old audio suite and needed the space. So, no idea if they ever found those Last Crusade tracks tapes. I guess they found a source in any case given what ended up on the Indiana Jones 3 movie music box set.
Hopefully whenever Mike M. gets the ok, he can go back to the earliest generation masters.
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lairdo got a reaction from fommes in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Andy in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from crumbs in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from crumbs in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
After I wrote this reply, I remembered I just had my original cassette capture retransferred over last summer when we were selling our house and digitizing all of our old photo albums. The place I used does audio too! (I was able to save recordings with my in-laws which was a nice find as they are gone a few years now.)
And, I had tossed in Raiders (as well as Young Indy's first movie of the week music which was recorded at SkySound). And I just loaded that raw cassette wav capture, and in fact, it does include the boulder pick up insert! I must have forgotten about it! As I wrote before, 2m1 does not exist on what I have.
Only a little bit.
Temple of Doom was similarly in the library in the ¼" track format. We did not use anything from that, so I never had reason to put up the reels. (We did not like to handle things that were otherwise sitting happily stored for worry of damage or adding print through.) So, I have no idea if the Palace Source music was on those tapes or not. I assume those were licensed, but there is a Williams cue that does weave into and out of it, so he must have had that in the film edit to work with. (Complete guess though.) And I know that music is on the music stems so maybe the music editor did that and gave it to Williams. The quality of the recording is pretty poor, and it's mixed fairly low in the movie anyway.
By the time of Last Crusade scoring sessions, everything was on 2" 16 or 24 track. I remember those music reels being in Ben Burtt's closet! And funnily enough, about 5 years after I left, I got a call from someone asking if I knew were they were! (I said they were in Ben's closet - which they said they had alread checked! I had only seen them but similarly we did not use anything, so they stayed in their boxes.) When I visited a number of years after that, having not been back in some time, I found that the closet itself was now gone. Matt Wood and Dave Acord had remodeled Ben Burtt's old audio suite and needed the space. So, no idea if they ever found those Last Crusade tracks tapes. I guess they found a source in any case given what ended up on the Indiana Jones 3 movie music box set.
Hopefully whenever Mike M. gets the ok, he can go back to the earliest generation masters.
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lairdo got a reaction from Brando in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
After I wrote this reply, I remembered I just had my original cassette capture retransferred over last summer when we were selling our house and digitizing all of our old photo albums. The place I used does audio too! (I was able to save recordings with my in-laws which was a nice find as they are gone a few years now.)
And, I had tossed in Raiders (as well as Young Indy's first movie of the week music which was recorded at SkySound). And I just loaded that raw cassette wav capture, and in fact, it does include the boulder pick up insert! I must have forgotten about it! As I wrote before, 2m1 does not exist on what I have.
Only a little bit.
Temple of Doom was similarly in the library in the ¼" track format. We did not use anything from that, so I never had reason to put up the reels. (We did not like to handle things that were otherwise sitting happily stored for worry of damage or adding print through.) So, I have no idea if the Palace Source music was on those tapes or not. I assume those were licensed, but there is a Williams cue that does weave into and out of it, so he must have had that in the film edit to work with. (Complete guess though.) And I know that music is on the music stems so maybe the music editor did that and gave it to Williams. The quality of the recording is pretty poor, and it's mixed fairly low in the movie anyway.
By the time of Last Crusade scoring sessions, everything was on 2" 16 or 24 track. I remember those music reels being in Ben Burtt's closet! And funnily enough, about 5 years after I left, I got a call from someone asking if I knew were they were! (I said they were in Ben's closet - which they said they had alread checked! I had only seen them but similarly we did not use anything, so they stayed in their boxes.) When I visited a number of years after that, having not been back in some time, I found that the closet itself was now gone. Matt Wood and Dave Acord had remodeled Ben Burtt's old audio suite and needed the space. So, no idea if they ever found those Last Crusade tracks tapes. I guess they found a source in any case given what ended up on the Indiana Jones 3 movie music box set.
Hopefully whenever Mike M. gets the ok, he can go back to the earliest generation masters.
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lairdo got a reaction from Martinland in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Manakin Skywalker in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Brando in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Valentinice in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Hayden Jonas in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Sunshine Reger in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)
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lairdo got a reaction from Smeltington in Indiana Jones and the mystery of cue 2m1
I am not sure this is helpful or not information given all that has been written in the thread, but I'll provide it in any case.
When I worked on Young Indy, we had access to all the Skywalker Sound sound effects reels. (These were on quarter inch, half tape format reels - e.g. 2 stereo channels only going in one direction as compared to consumer quarter inch that had 4 channels.) Amongst those tapes were the stereo mix downs of the recorded orchestral Raiders's music. We used a few bits as temp music before Joel McNeely and Laurence Rosenthal did the new scores. Overall, George Lucas preferred us to use no William music at all in the temps because he was worried that the tunes would be too associated with their original placement in the movies.
Back to the question:
2m1 was not on the reels. I know this because I made a copy of the reel to cassette which I still have (but is in storage) as well as a capture of that tape. So, I would agree with @Jay that this was not recorded in 1981 - possibly it was spotted and maybe sketched. Since the tape reel were almost complete (even the insert fixes for 8m3 Indy Rides the Statue were there), my guess at the time is that they represented everything printed from the music recording sessions. (The 1m3 insert for the Boulder sequence was not there so I guess that was done later or created out of another take? CORRECTION: I checked, and it was on the ¼" reel and my cassette!)
However, there were no source music pieces on those tapes - there was only the Williams score, leading me to believe that those queues were found/recorded/licensed from elsewhere.
For example, the diggers song at Tanis was on the sound effects reels for Raiders. This song occurs at about 58 minutes. My understanding was this was recorded by the extras during the film production. (I personally edited this into the YIJC Cairo 1908 episode as an Easter egg when Indy arrives at Howard Carter's camp 21 mins into the My First Adventure movie that includes this episode.)