E-Wan
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6 hours ago, Datameister said:
Galaxy's Edge and Solo (other than The Adventures of Han) both get the sound I like. The biggest difference is in the brass, the trumpets most of all.
Both have been recorded in London at the Abbey Road Studios.
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On 7/2/2019 at 2:46 AM, danbeck said:
Superman (some controversy on this one for the dynamic range as I saw in some forums but sounds great to me).
What is wrong with the dynamic range of Superman 3CD set?
I have also read some complaints on the remastering of the OST album on Disc 2 of E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial 2CD set but haven't noticed any problems with it.
BTW is there any other case where Mike Matessino's remastering reportedly sounds worse than the original soundtrack release?
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Jay, in the long main list Angela's Ashes is Sony Music release but in the simplified list it is Universal Music Group release.
What is right?
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1 hour ago, Incanus said:
Wow the Finnish Broadcasting Company YLE is broadcasting the concert recording today in a couple of hours! Sweet!
Czech Television (CT) has broadcasted the concert recording (with Czech commentary) on Monday. It is still available on their website:
https://www.ceskatelevize.cz/porady/13576669986-john-williams-ve-vidni/22054215003/
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Kyle Eastwood (Clint Eastwood's son) plays the jazz arrangement of music from The Eiger Sanction
The track is from Kyle Eastwood's album Cinematic
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4 minutes ago, Jay said:
Hmmm I'll have to double check my CDs at home, then! I was looking at them this weekend for something and I remember the Dreamworks Records logo clear as day on Amistad, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report, and Catch Me If You Can.... but now I can't remember precisely what Terminal WOTW, and Munich said! I'll double check when I get home
EDIT: Wikipedia says UMG bought Dreamworks Records in 2003, so maybe the titles released after that point still had the Dreamworks Records logo on them, but they were not distributed by UMG/Decca and got Decca catalog numbers
Yes, I think this is the reason why Amistad, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can are Dreamworks Records releases and The Terminal, War of the Worlds and Munich are not.
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10 minutes ago, Jay said:
Internationally, sure. In the USA, they are Dreamworks Records.
Really? According to the following sources all U.S. versions were released by Decca Records too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams_discography
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/65585/Terminal%2C+The
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/69722/War+Of+The+Worlds
http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/73506/Munich
Only FYC promos for The Terminal and Munich were released by DreamWorks.
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Arista Records
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1990 Home Alone (La-La Land 2015)
Jay, IMHO Arista Records released the song album, not John Williams' score which was released by CBS Records.
Dreamworks Records
- 2004 The Terminal
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2005 War of the Worlds (Intrada 2020) - 2005 Munich
Jay, in fact these 3 soundtracks have been released by Decca Records, not Dreamworks Records.
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51 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:
I thought the same even more about Revenge of the Sith. I must confess, I did not like the finale starting with Leia's theme. I would have liked to hear original music from this film.
And I am not such a big fan of Battle of Heroes. In the film there was a lot of great music, that I would have loved to hear in the finale from the music for General Grievious up to Anakin's Betrayal.
But these are complains on a very high level. Revenge of the Sith is still a great soundtrack, my concerns are more on especially on the finale.
And yeah from time to time I think, when a piece is obivously sounds too much like a copy of a classical piece. For example "Hatikvah (Hope)" from Munich sounds like a 70% copy of Smetana's Moldau. Anyway sometimes I wonder when quotes from other pieces are credited and when not. I mean in classical music it was quite common to use themes from other ocmposers and include them in their work. Sometimes you have a variation on a theme by someone. Some other time it is not mentioned. For example, Williams' "Song for World Peace" obviously quotes Richard Strauss' "Also sprach Zaratustra", but on my CD it is not credited. Probably it is too obvious. Would be interesting if there are some regulations around that or at least a state of the art. If there is some, I don't see through it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatikvah
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On 8/4/2020 at 9:21 AM, Pawel P. said:
Sorry, I forgot to answer earlier. A two metal CD's, nothing mainstream. But listen, I don't know if these new CDs are any worse than the old ones. Certainly some editions weigh less, which I checked when comparing the same titles (e.g. Metallica's 'Load' pressed in the 90s and now) and this may or may not mean anything.
The only score I had to rebuy - two times! - as it was useless was Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition (European edition), but I suppose it's the more toxic dimension of a plastic tray or packaging, not a CD's defect. Now I keep them separate from the original packaging, and everything is fine with it.
You are right. I have the same problem with Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Ultimate Edition.
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8 minutes ago, Pawel P. said:
Well, I have no proof of this, but this view is presented by some of my collector friends. It never happened to me that a disc from the 80s and 90s stopped working, and I have over 3,500 CDs, but I had several such cases with later produced CD's. It's also worth noting that today's CDs are slightly thinner and lighter than those produced 20 or 30 years ago.
It is interesting. I have never heard about this problem before.
It has never occurred to me to compare the weight and thickness of CDs.
Can you mention which of the later produced CDs in your collection have stopped working?
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5 hours ago, Jay said:
1980 (recorded 06/80) Pops in Space
1980 (recorded 06/80) Pops on the March
1981 (doesn't say...) That's Entertainment
1981 (recorded 12/80) We Wish You A Merry Christmas
1982 (doesn't say...) Pops Around The World (Digital Overtures)
1982 (doesn't say...) Aisle Seat
I have just realized that first 6 Philips albums have been produced by legendary record producer George Korngold, son of Erich Wolfgang Korngold.
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5 hours ago, Josh500 said:
Well, that's you - like I said, I feel differently. Besides, my home is large enough to accommodate all of my CD collection...
Yes, it is one of the reasons why I'm not keeping the redundant old OST albums - the lack of space in my home.
To keep all old releases I will need this space
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6 hours ago, Chewy said:
FYC tracks usually contain the film edits so it should fit (this is not always 100% right though, taking Falcon Flight as an example).
As for the OST, some tracks are less altered than others: "Approaching the Throne", "Reunion", "A New Home", but most of the time it won't fit perfectly.
There are also tracks you can forget about: "Journey to Exegol", "Fanfare and Prologue" as JW's initial intentions are totally absent in the beginning of the movie.
4 hours ago, Jay said:All the FYC tracks exactly line up with the final film
None of the OST tracks play unedited in the film as they are on the album
4 hours ago, crumbs said:Approaching The Throne, Farewell and A New Home all come very close to matching the final film, but even they have modifications (just subtle trims or loops, basically).
I doubt a single cue in the film is presented exactly as recorded/intended, except 1M1 (but even the ending is tracked over by music from TFA).
So when I play FYC promo tracks with the corresponding movie scenes they will fit. Great!
Thank you all for information.
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I'm just curious are there any tracks from the oficial soundtrack album or FYC promo which have been used in the TROS movie without any alterations?
I mean are there any tracks from OST or FYC promo which I can play with the corresponding movie scene and it will fit?
Or is the movie total mess regarding the usage of music?
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15 hours ago, Bayesian said:
You’d understand if your tendencies as a collector veered to the completist. Even deprecated OSTs have historical or even sentimental value. (And if nothing else, they usually came in far better quality jewel cases than the flimsy ones we get today—and those old cases are only getting rarer!)
Maybe that is my problem because I have never been the completist and sentimental.
You are right the new jewel cases are terrible. So I'm changing them for the old ones.
10 hours ago, Josh500 said:Well, for me, it's about the collector's value (plus a dose of nostalgia). If you own the first edition of your favourite book (let's say Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings or whatever), would you throw it away because a newer version came out with better, more legible print, with a new introduction and afterword, new illustrations, updated cover art etc.?
Well, for me, that's a big no. The first edition will always hold a very special place in my heart. But that's just me. You're welcome to have your own take on things.
I usually keep the first edition of the book and do not bother to buy new version because the story is the same. This is not the same situation with original OST album versus expanded edition containing the OST program.
As I have written I'm not sentimental so I do not see any reason to keep for example original Varese album releases of 1941, Dracula, Earthquake, The Fury, Jaws 2 and The River with poor 4-page booklet with practically no liner notes and only few images from the film and in some cases with very bad sound quality (listen to Dracula).
10 hours ago, Pawel P. said:I agree. I never get rid of original editions after getting extended ones - from sentiment, and sometimes because the original shorter program is still attractive to listen to. And let's not forget that in the 80s and 90s the discs were made of better quality materials than now, which may mean that the original releases will survive much longer than the extended ones.
I have never heard this information that older releases will survive longer than the newer ones.
Where you have heard/read this? Do you have some links to the source of this information?
I usually have the opossite experience. Some older CD or DVD discs in my collection have changed the colour and started to have problems during playback. Some of them are unplayable now.
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24 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:
They're not credited at least, and it's the first time I've seen anyone claim that the LSO proper has recorded that score (when discussions used to rather go "why didn't Williams use the LSO for HPPS when they did HPCOS?"). I expect it's likely it was recorded with a contract orchestra largely drafted from the LSO (as has been the assumption for years), but surely if they'd actually hired the "standard" LSO they would have gotten credit? For contractual reasons if nothing else?
According the booklets in Harry Potter 7CD box set the only Harry Potter score using already established symphony orchestra is Harry Potter ant the Chamber of Secrets. It was the London Symphony Orchestra. The remaining two scores have used musicians from various UK and US orchestras contracted by Isobel Griffiths.
See these pages:
HPPS: 16 & 35
HPCOS: 9 & 23
HPPOA: 7 & 23
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On 4/16/2018 at 10:40 AM, Josh500 said:
I can't think of any scenario where I tell myself, "Ah, now I'm gonna get rid of the original soundtrack albums of E.T., Jaws, Home Alone, Star Wars, Empire of the Sun, etc."
I mean, even it we have the expanded versions (even the expanded versions with the OS albums included) I wouldn't tell myself that. I'll keep the OS albums for my collection.
I do not undestand the reasons to keep OST album when I have it on the expanded edition in better sound quality.
1941, Dracula, Earthquake, E.T., Fitzwilly, The Fury, Home Alone, How to Steal a Million, Jaws, Jaws 2, The Missouri Breaks, Monsignor, Penelope, The River, Rosewood, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List, Superman: The Movie and The Towering Inferno all have expanded editions containing original OST album too. I will never play the original OST album releases of these scores anymore. So why to keep them? It is the waste of space only.
I understand the reasons to keep original OST album of A.I., Empire of the Sun, Far and Away, Harry Potter 1-3, Hook, Jurassic Park, The Lost World, Minority Report, etc. since they are not included on the expanded editions. And that's why I have kept them.
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10 minutes ago, ATXHusker said:
Not surprising since Across the Stars standard edition is also digipack, probably means the CD/BR combo release will be in the tall box as well.
From Deutsche Grammophon shop:
Both the standard CD and the Blu-ray disc come in a high-quality digipak in Blu-ray format with a classy “gold foil” look on the cover.
John T. Williams, the pianist
in JOHN WILLIAMS
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This is awesome!