Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Gasp! Shock!Let the random unfounded speculation begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 OH MY GOD, I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THIS MOVIE, that is like the coolest poster I have ever seen.awesome,just awesome.OH my God.Oh my God.don't you know there were some geeks who just creamed their pants at being the first to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Wow....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Obviously not Next Gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 With Matt Damon as Captain James T. Kirk?But will Ben Affleck play Spock or Bones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 With Matt Damon as Captain James T. Kirk?But will Ben Affleck play Spock or Bones?I'd rather watch Generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Yeah, that's definately not Next Generation, but that's about as far as anyone can speculate at this point. I have a feeling they'll bomb with this movie. It'd be really nice if they could make a good film out of this, but they won't since it has the same team that's been botching the last two films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Nemesis was not a botched film IMO.It was...impefect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 It was botched. THey had excellent actors, pretty good music, a plot reminiscent of Wrath of Khan, a great villain, and yet the director decided to cut a bunch of stuff from it, making the final film feel like it skipped over important parts. While watching, I actually forget what the whole point of the super laser was because they had barely mentioned it throughout the film.I like the movie, but it's botched b ecause it could have been so good if they hadn't hacked it apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Rubbish! the editing is fine. It's the script that is problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 Yeah, that's definately not Next Generation, but that's about as far as anyone can speculate at this point. Â I have a feeling they'll bomb with this movie. It'd be really nice if they could make a good film out of this, but they won't since it has the same team that's been botching the last two films.Didn't they bring in JJ Abrams for this new one? Won't he take his go-to guys with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 It was botched. Â THey had excellent actors, pretty good music, a plot reminiscent of Wrath of Khan, a great villain, and yet the director decided to cut a bunch of stuff from it, making the final film feel like it skipped over important parts. Â While watching, I actually forget what the whole point of the super laser was because they had barely mentioned it throughout the film.I like the movie, but it's botched b ecause it could have been so good if they hadn't hacked it apart.I actually found a lot of the "important" deleted scenes in Nemesis a tad awkward. Of course, they wouldn't have needed the chop if the acting wasn't so mediocre, or even cringe-inducing when you watch Wesley Crusher. Otherwise, Nemesis happens to be one of my favourite Trek entries, despite how flawed it is.And I like Stuart Baird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 There's no future in Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Where are the Michael Cappacino fans? He'd probably be scoring this one, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Didn't they bring in JJ Abrams for this new one? Won't he take his go-to guys with him?Actually, yeah, I saw that after I posted. There were rumors but I thought Abrams always denied it. Now it's official though. And it's for sure not a movie about Voyager, Deep Space Nine, or Enterprise, which Abrams admits he doesn't like. The poster is obviously from a TOS or pre-TOS era. Rumors have it that it's about Kirk and Spock meeting at the Academy or whatever. Not sure what I think about that, and Abrams says he can't say anything about the plot.But as someone mentioned about random, unfoudned speculation starting with this poster, I do find it interesting that the colors used in the poster are tan and blue, the colors of Kirk and Spock's uniforms in TOS. It's probably a coincidence though. I think that this could very well be a good movie in its own right, but I'm not sure how Trek fans will feel about it. It seems that it's being built as totally different from any Trek series or movie before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Rumors have it that it's about Kirk and Spock meeting at the Academy or whatever. Not sure what I think about that, and Abrams says he can't say anything about the plot.That's the old Harve Bennett concept that was concieved after the failure of Trek 5.Fortunatly cooler heads prevailed and they gave the old guys another shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 This is clearly the prequel story of how Sulu went from wearing a blue shirt in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" to a gold shirt in "The Corbomite Maneuver".Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I think that this could very well be a good movie in its own right, but I'm not sure how Trek fans will feel about it. Â It seems that it's being built as totally different from any Trek series or movie before.That's what I'm hoping for. There's much more potential in Trek than you can realise with just a series structure. To some extent, even IV proved that, though it was still the same cast. But why not do a "normal" (i.e. full exposition, new characters etc.) comedy/thriller/mystery/drama/whatever in the Trek universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Frankly ST should be put to rest for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Star Trek should go into the future, not into the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Frankly ST should be put to rest for awhile.To what end and purpose? For some child to be born who will single handedly rescue Star Trek?To quote Spock, "Illogical."Trek fansAre the ones who brought upon the demise of their beloved franchise, week in and week out they supported the garbage Voyager and Enterprise. What made the first three series great was they that each while still maintaining their roots, managed to evolve beyond the previous series, and managed to be new and fresh in their respective eras.What made the original movies great was their ability to break from the style of storytelling of the TV series. None of that occured with Voyager, or with Enterprise, or even 3 of the 4 TNG movies. Same formula over and over, and to top it off, the same formula executed in some of the most lackluster ways possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 To let the bitter taste of Enterprise wear off and make people hungry for Star Trek again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 Star Trek shouldn't take a break. They should just call it quits and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Imagine if they thought like that in 1978..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 All I can say is, Nicholas Meyer was the greatest thing to happen to Star Trek since Gene Roddenberry in the original series. He was given the reigns not for the sake of being new blood, but because he had creative ideas. Rick Berman gave a crappy director and editor, with a crappy track record, the reigns to Nemesis, for the sake of new blood. Saw what we got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Rick Berman gave a crappy director and editor, with a crappy track record, the reigns to Nemesis, for the sake of new blood. Â Saw what we got?Stuart Baird is a decent director and an outstanding editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Baird is one of the elite, premiere action editors working in film today, and a very competent director. Nemesis wasn't the greatest of scripts, but he did what he could with the material.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Stuart Baird is a decent director and an outstanding editor.Outstanding? Oh, because he worked under the guidance of a competent director on The Omen and Superman, and Lethal Weapon and everything subsequent to those efforts was average and below? Baird is one of the elite, premiere action editors working in film todayFirst I heard of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 We shall see if Casino Royale proves you right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 We shall see if Casino Royale proves you right.I don't think a Martin Campbell film will change my opinion. LOLBut I wait...he brought Pierce Brosnan in alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Who are you anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Who are you anyway?The voice in the back of your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I...HAVE HAD....ENOUGH OF....YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I...HAVE HAD....ENOUGH OF....YOU!Would it be better if I said...Someone who loves you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 GIVE ME GENESIIIIIS (AND SCORPION PARTS I &2!!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Part 2?! I wish. :cry: "Official Protest" - DS9 Call to Arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Stuart Baird is a decent director and an outstanding editor.I gotta slap you with a big fat "No" on that one. He isn't bad. He's just nothing other than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Part 2?! I wish. :cry: But part I would be...possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Stuart Baird should have his testicles ripped of in a mechanical accident, and any prodgeny he's already sired should be terminated post birth, to save the world from their father's hideous mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Stuart Baird cut Superman - The Movie. You do still like that film, don't you, or has Superman Returns supplanted it?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Whats up with the rainbow logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Stuart Baird did edit Superman nearly 30 years ago, but in the last few years he killed Star Trek. His blood should drip for a millenia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Stuart Baird did edit Superman nearly 30 years ago, but in the last few years he killed Star Trek. Â His blood should drip for a millenia.Is he worse than Berman?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 yes he is, just a Lucas as worse as a director as he is a producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Dude...Lucas is an EXCELLENT producer. Piss poor director...but excellent producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Dude, thats what I just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Aight dude. Sorry dude, misread that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzOutcast 122 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 Wow, I had no idea so many passionate Trekkies (or Trekkers, whatever) existed on this board. It's hard for me to get into Star Trek sometimes . . . I suppose the last couple of movies left a bad taste in my mouth. As for the show, I've always enjoyed it for more campy reasons than anything. I think it's good they're bringing in new blood for Star Trek. Although I've yet to be amazed by anything Abrams has done. Yeah, I dug Alias and I really dig Lost, but MI:3 wasn't all that in my book . . . just merely passable (especially the score . . . yeah, bring the hate if you want).I have to admit though, for the first time in a while there are a lot of films coming out that look interesting. Pan's Labyrinth and 300 come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 can someone please tell me whats happening? I have to admit that I'm no Trek fan and the last time I tried to watch TMP (it was when I was 4 and Perrilly's were sponsoring Star Trek TMP followed by Star Wars on TV that night) I fell asleep. :oops: Yes I know there are two generations and the last movie was supposed to be Patrick Stewart and gang's last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer 0 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 James Horner returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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