robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I'm really enjoying Gerhardt's classic film scores series (the ones I can find, anyway), and of course there are the invariably brilliant Marco Polo Morgan/Stromberg re-recordings - I think several (King Kong in particular) are far, far better than the film recordings.I also like: Rebecca (McNeely version), Goldsmith's recording of the rejected 2001 score, The Day The Earth Stood Still (McNeely), Raise the Titanic (Raine), and quite a few others.I'm looking to expand my collection and get a few more re-recordings, so what's good, and what should I avoid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I'm very partial to the re-recording The Royal Scottish National orchestra did of Last Of The Mohicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 126 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Sunset Boulevard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 how good is the McNeely Jaws? I've never heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 I quite like it. It doesn't match up to either of the other albums, but I play it ocassinoally if I want to listen to something... different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I prefer to listen to the McNeely re-recording then to the complete score release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Is that because of the sound quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The McNeely Batman Trilogy CD isn't to bad from what I listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 how 'different' is the McNeely Jaws?Burga - been in a Jaws mood the past few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 There are some sound clips here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 That's one of my favourites. But am I imagining it, or is the sound on that disc a bit strange? It always sounds sort of "distant" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 It always sounds sort of "distant" to me.Most re-recordings are like that though...that's the only problem I have with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I actually like that distant sound. It's much more organic, like you were in the middle of the concert hall.Debney's Superman is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Most re-recordings are like that though...that's the only problem I have with them.How do you mean, most are? It's just to do with the way its recorded, not the fact it's a re-recording. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 How good is the Patton re-recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Pretty much all the other Gerhardt recordings are much better than this - that goes for interpretations, performances, and sound. The best I've heard are Star Wars (with CE3K) and the Korngold and Herrmann (stunning!) compilations. ROTJ is great as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I must say, the Herrmann disc sounds ridiculously much better than all the Star Warzes combined. It's almost as if Herrmann's music lends itself better to audiophile recordings. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I wouldn't say the Straussian sound of the Salammbo aria is typical Herrmann, yet that also sounds incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,088 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I'm looking to expand my collection and get a few more re-recordings, so what's good, and what should I avoid? Rob,I would definitely recommend Monstrous Movie Music's remarkably faithful re-recordings of (mostly) 1950's and 1960's sci-fi and fantasy film music. The music itself is something of an acquired taste and is probably not everyone's cup of tea, but whatever your tastes the recordings and presentation really cannot be faulted. The music is recorded 'close-miked' so that it sounds like a film music soundtrack rather than a concert hall experience.The liner notes by David Schecter are the most comprehensive I have seen in any film music release too. His wife Kathleen Mayne did many of the music reconstructions and some of the conducting. Their website is at www.mmmrecordings.com.Damien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 There are some sound clips here.Sounds great to me as far as I can tell. Horrid cover art though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 I'm starting to think I'm the only person in the world who actually likes that cover. I would definitely recommend Monstrous Movie Music's remarkably faithful re-recordings of (mostly) 1950's and 1960's sci-fi and fantasy film music. The music itself is something of an acquired taste and is probably not everyone's cup of tea, but whatever your tastes the recordings and presentation really cannot be faulted. The music is recorded 'close-miked' so that it sounds like a film music soundtrack rather than a concert hall experience.Thanks, I'll take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I like that cover, too.I have very few complaints about Bob Peak art.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 You really can't go wrong with any of the John Morgan/ Williams Stromberg re-recordings, Intrada's Jason and The Argonauts is outstanding, the Herrmann recordings done by Joel McNeely are very good as well.Silva's The Last Valley, Lion In Winter, Raise The Titantic and Robin And Marian are well done. MMM's recordings are excellent.Varese's Midway and The 7th Voyage Of Sinbad are ok but there are tempo problems. The Jaws recording is just plain awful and I would avoid it. Goldsmith's Patton / Tora Tora Tora! recording is ok but I'd get the originals from FSM, although Patton may be gone already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Other then the fact that it's not actually a Great White Shark., but a harmless Sand Tiger.It's a nice painting, but should have never been used for that CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The Patton Re-Recording is a good performance, but a very meh mix/recording. Get the FSM version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 The FSM CD is sold out, so you'll probably have to pay a lot for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The picture on the back of the CD would have made a better front cover pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Jaws or Patton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Jaws, you guys posted before I could respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The Patton Re-Recording is a good performance, but a very meh mix/recording. Â Get the FSM version.I don't have the FSM, but does it have the awesome German March like the re-recording does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The current Patton DVD has the score isolated.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I suggest you avoid all re-recordings that are synthesized.- Marc, who once stumbled upon an eighties' synth version of E.T. It was... most unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 The current Patton DVD has the score isolated.NeilHow's the sound quality compared to the FSM CD?The Patton Re-Recording is a good performance, but a very meh mix/recording. Â Get the FSM version.I don't have the FSM, but does it have the awesome German March like the re-recording does?No, but it has two cues not on the Varese release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I don't have the FSM, but does it have the awesome German March like the re-recording does?No.I'd like to get my hands on the LP that was released as the soundtrack for the film because it's my understanding that that was a re-recording as well. My dad had it at one time but it disappeared.How's the sound quality compared to the FSM CD?It should be the same since they are from the same source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I suggest you avoid all re-recordings that are synthesized.- Marc, who once stumbled upon an eighties' synth version of E.T. It was... most unpleasant. Meco is a huge fan of John Williams and has visited this place from time to time.So HOW DARE YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 I'd like to get my hands on the LP that was released as the soundtrack for the film because it's my understanding that that was a re-recording as well. My dad had it at one time but it disappeared.In case you don't find that, I think the German Tsunami CD has the LP program plus A Patch of Blue. Don't know what the quality's like, though, Tsunami CDs are variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 It would not be legal for Mr. Olivarez to own this version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 Wouldn't it? I thought those CDs had some sort of legal loophole... or is that only in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 It's not very clear.I think Tsunami is based in Austria, were there releaaes are considered legal. Not sure about other European countries.I have seen CD's of that label sold by big name stores in London (HMV, Virgin), and the music library in Rotterdam held a copy of Fitzwilly at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 I see them all the time in big record stores in the UK, and Amazon UK sell them, so I guess they're probably OK in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I suggest you avoid all re-recordings that are synthesized.- Marc, who once stumbled upon an eighties' synth version of E.T. It was... most unpleasant. Meco is a huge fan of John Williams and has visited this place from time to time.So HOW DARE YOU!Meco Star Wars is enjoyable to some degree.Whatever the hell it was I listened to most certainly was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridan 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The Marco Polo re-recording of Korngold's Adventures of Robin Hood is quite excellent. Much better than the old Varese one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Kojian's Varese recording is outstanding. It's hard to call either of the two "better", but of course the Marco Polo/Naxos does have much more music. (Kojian's Sea Haw is great as well, and I expect the situation will be similar when Naxos finally release their new recording). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Meco visits JWfan?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Other then the fact that it's not actually a Great White Shark., but a harmless Sand Tiger.Agreed. That aint Bruce!Btw what are Tsunami CDs and what about their legality? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Meco visits JWfan?K.M.According to Ricard he did, en perhaps still does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 13, 2006 Author Share Posted August 13, 2006 Btw what are Tsunami CDs and what about their legality? Â :?A European label that reissues hard-to-find LPs on CD. They're legal in whatever country they're made due to some loophole, but are considered bootlegs in non-European countries. That's my understanding anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 It would not be legal for Mr. Olivarez to own this version.I'm sure you could find a few "illegal" things on my CD shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 Having listened to quite a bit of it since it arrived this morning, I can fully recommend the FSM release of Elmer Bernstein's Film Music Collection. It sounds great (considering master tapes were missing for a lot of the albums), and none of the music has left me anything less than amazed. Helen of Troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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