Goldsmithfan 3 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I just saw that film last night and one of the first things that struck me was how awkward the music was. It didn't do much for the scenes besides detract . . . a lot.The chase music that everyone on Amazon goes nuts over seemed to be nothing more than monotonous, pop-based garbage that went nowhere. The other music in the movie wasn't much better. It just seemed to be a mismash of electronics and piano thrown in every once in a while for 'good'measure.So what was this score up against? Maybe in 1978 the only other scores that were nominated were those to pornos? I mean, come ON! There were no other Oscar worthy scores in '78! Gimme a break! Does Superman: The Movie ring a bell! How about Capricorn One?It's obvious that the Oscar board was asleep (or on crack) at the wheel on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 What were the other Nominated scores, i know Superman was one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Boys from Brazil, Jerry GoldsmithHeavan Can Wait, Dave GrusinDays of Heaven, Ennio MorriconeMidnight Express, Georgio MoroderSuperman, the Movie, John WilliamsSuperman was clearly the best, and of this list Boys from Brazil was the 2nd best, though I personally find Capricorn One a more listenable experience, the major theme from Boys from Brazil is still very haunting, and I love the circus style music in it(don't know else how to discribe it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Superman, The Boys from Brazil, The Fury, Damien - The Omen II, Capricorn One, Magic, The Swarm or Jaws 2 would have all been worthy winners that year, IMO.But then again it's not as bad as Raiders losing out to Chariots of Fire, or Memoirs of a Geisha to Brokeback Mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It should have been Superman, no other score from that year stands out as much.I like Capricorn One, but it made me believe a man can't go to Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 LOL I dunno it's just another one of those confusing moments by the Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldsmithfan 3 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 LOL Â I dunno it's just another one of those confusing moments by the Academy.And there have been many to speak of. Aside from Raiders losing to Chariots of Fire (I like some of Vangelis' work, but not quite that much) and Memoirs of a Geisha losing to Brokeback Mountain, Aladdin beat Basic Instinct and Star Trek IV was nominated period.What can I say? Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Star Trek IV deserved to be nominated, its a very good score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Only if you are high on crack or crystal meth!I rather not have christmas bells in my Trek scores thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Star Trek IV is weird for me, sometimes I love it, other times I hate it. That's the case with all the Rosenman music I've heard, actually. :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Star Trek IV deserved to be nominated, its a very good score.You are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It's obvious that the Oscar board was asleep (or on crack) at the wheel on this one.They usually are at the Academy's music branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Isn't it all the other composers that vote for the score award? Or is it all the Academy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,286 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 The composers choose the scores (this year they must have been on crack too...) and the whole members vote, if im not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Star Trek IV deserved to be nominated, its a very good score.You are correct.Junkie crackhead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Since when has an Academy award dictated a score's (or film's) quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,286 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (when Williams wins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Wasn't Midnight Express one of these politically sensitive films that always wins best score?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 385 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 "Midnight Express" is perhaps a somewhat over-rated film, and Moroder's score is just ugly. Vulgar, infantile and very aesthetically displeasing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 243 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Look at it this way.John Williams had won the previous year for "Star Wars," with music that sounded a lot like the music for "Superman.""I'm not going to give him another award for writing more hero music," most voters probably said. "Oooh, here's that 'Midnight Express' score with all those electronics amid the dank Turkish prison. Now that's as different from 'Superman' as you can get. I'll vote for it!"I love "Superman." LOVE IT! But I also like "The Chase" in "Midnight Express" and that main theme is quite good. Listen to it as Billy "reads" his letter to Susan. Nice rendition. And then the weird music as Billy attacks the guard and then gets taken upstairs to get raped by the realy bad guard. There are some really good moments in this score. You're just letting your unabashed love of "Superman" get in the way of appreciating it. This is definitely not one of the biggest Oscar travesties.Jeff -- who would have voted for "Chariots of Fire" but definitely not "Fame" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Yes it is.There is nothing remotely interesting about Midnight Express, musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldsmithfan 3 Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 You're just letting your unabashed love of "Superman" get in the way of appreciating it. This is definitely not one of the biggest Oscar travesties. This has nothing to do with Superman. It's got everything to do with the fact that I saw the movie and was completely taken out of it by the score. It didn't fit and it was just plain horrible. After I saw the film I looked it up and found out it was from '78. The first thing I thought of was The Swarm to be perfectly honest. It's a coherant score.In any case, it's not a comparison with Superman or The Swarm that makes this a terrible score, it's the quality (or lack of quality) that makes this a huge travesty.I have no doubt that the voters were thinking along the lines you stated, but I really think they should go by quality. If they did, the awards would actually be able to do what they're meant to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 it is one of the big travesties, because Superman is clearly the best score from that period, but Midnight Express isn't the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th best. Other scores that year were more deserving.I won't bash Midnight Express the movie, because its a harrowing experience, the score has its moments, but there are many scores with moments, and they are no more deserving of an Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 WHAT?! A thread about the insanity of the Academy, and no one has even mentioned Star Trek The Motion Picture losing to A Little Romance? And how Superman didn't win and Midnight Express did, will always be beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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