Frosty 0 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Greetings all.I was wondering if anyone had any information on how to rent Williams orchestral material. I have tried Theme and Variations (their Williams rental list is very small and dwindling). I have looked at the Warner/Chapelle sight and it only gives info on how to license Williams pieces (from a list of about 700). I am looking for concert works and film works that are available only through rental. I have JW Signature Editions etc. Just info on how to rent his pieces.Thanks to allFrosty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Rent Celebration Fanfare,Fanfare for Ten Years Old and Fanfare for Prince Philip and record themK.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I wonder if you'd be able to borrow from the Boston Symphony's Music Library if you had a REALLY good letter of intent.Also, Lucks Music Library (www.lucksmusic.net) has a good John Williams page, and there are several things that you can rent, although mostly arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi 0 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I wish we could just rob the Jo Ann Kane library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I wish we could just rob the Jo Ann Kane library.That would be the ultimate heist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony69 0 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 renting boston library is possible. i know people who do visit libraries and stuff like that. but u need a good intent. or good connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi 0 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Last time i went in the Jo ann Kane Library i held in my hand the entire empire strikes back notated score! (there are two copies of it there And the time before that I walked in to look to my left and saw the pencil orchestrated score of escape from venice. it is truly the coolest place in the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWfangirl1992 18 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Ok foolish question but what are the libaries your talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Last time i went in the Jo ann Kane Library i held in my hand the entire empire strikes back notated score! (there are two copies of it there And the time before that I walked in to look to my left and saw the pencil orchestrated score of escape from venice. it is truly the coolest place in the earth.Sounds like the coolest place on earth! Hell, forget multiple times - I'd be lucky if I get to go there once. (I assume its buried beneath the bowels of Los Angeles, perhaps?)I'd also be interested in viewing some of Williams' orchestral arrangements from the BSO Library (or wherever else) - Hooray for Hollywood, which I absolutely love; Anything Goes; violin music from Cinema Serenade; Fiddler on the Roof; By the Beautiful Sea, which features a great cameo of the Jaws Theme. Have I left out any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chs058 0 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 there are some pieces at chester novello for rental, unfortunately only few. If Williams ever wrote for Disney it might be rentel at heelymusic.Lucksmusic has the comercial "cheap" arrangements that are out of print for rental.If sombody has more sources than the mentioned above, TNV and the signature edition, Please post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty 0 Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 All well and good. Thanks for the responses. Where do orchestras rent any of his concertos? Fanfares? Concerts pieces? They have to get them somewhere. I know that the Empire Suite can be rented through Rodgers and Hammerstein, but where do the orchestras that "cover" Williams pieces (City of Prague for example) get them from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I'd guess they get them from the studios' archives.Some things (bassoon concerto, horn concerto) seem to be available through "Marjer Publishing", but how to contact them I haven't found out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Even if I had the proper connections, I'd stay away from City of Prague resources. They use many arrangements that try to sound like the authentic Williams version, but are clearly lacking (their Jaws and 1941 arrangementa are just horrible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 The "Jaws" arrangement you mention was actually done by Williams and orchestrated by John Cacavas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Why would Williams write a different arrangement for Prague than the one he uses with the Pops, etc.? And personally I'm not a fan of anything that Cacavas has done, especially his Williams arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Why would Williams write a different arrangement for Prague than the one he uses with the Pops, etc.? And personally I'm not a fan of anything that Cacavas has done, especially his Williams arrangements.This arrangement was done back in 1976 (I think). It was not done specifically for the Prague orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Well, either way, that particular Jaws arrangement sucks. The tonalities don't sound correct when the violins join the "da-da" figure (at that same point, the basses are playing just the downbeat and not the "da-da" rhythm, which differs from Williams authentic score), the woodwind/xylophone accents in the first section are different notes, and the woodwind feature in the middle of the piece is not as Williams wrote it in the original score, which is why it would be so surprising that Williams himself would have been personally involved with such an arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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