Incanus 5,713 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Oh great that's just what we need, Orcish songs, awkward dwarven comedy and some more time spent in Hobbiton before the quest starts (probably the most promising bit from those PJ mentioned).I wonder if Dwarf End Cap will underscore the dwarves mooning at the elves in Rivendell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Oh great that's just what we need, Orcish songs, awkward dwarven comedy and some more time spent in Hobbiton before the quest starts (probably the most promising bit from those PJ mentioned).I wonder if Dwarf End Cap will underscore the dwarves mooning at the elves in Rivendell.I wondered the same thing in the 'Desolation of Smaug' thread I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The Girion stuff sounds interesting (even though the prologue already feels a bit too long in the theatrical cut). Maybe we'll get to hear bits of Bard's theme, since his story is related to Girion's.Yeah. None of the stuff they've mentioned particularly interests me, but it could give us some great new hints in the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Guess that might explain the additional music for Smaug's attack on the soundtrack...Building up the arrows used to kill Smaug? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I don't quite understand what you mean Jason.In the novel there is a black arrow, a special arrow that Bard uses and probably these are somehow special dragon piercing,slaying (magical) arrows inherited by Bard from his ancestors. Tolkien never elaborates more on this than by saying that this single arrow came from the forges of Erebor a long time ago.The Girion stuff sounds interesting (even though the prologue already feels a bit too long in the theatrical cut). Maybe we'll get to hear bits of Bard's theme, since his story is related to Girion's.Yeah. None of the stuff they've mentioned particularly interests me, but it could give us some great new hints in the music.Indeed. Remember that this is the version of the music we will get on the eventual complete recordings (fingers crossed that there will be one for all three scores). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Does this mean that in the extended cut the dragon gets even more revealed in the prologue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Does this mean that in the extended cut the dragon gets even more revealed in the prologue?I guess there has to be a shot or two more of Girion shooting at him but they don't necessarily have to show more than they did before. They can always obscure him with smoke and fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 If this was two films, the detailed Dale prologue could have been the prologue of the second film. And in the first one we get the thing told by the dwarves at Hobbiton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I think it would have been great if Thorin had told the story of the coming of Smaug and destruction of Erebor during the unexpected party. It might have been a long flashback but would have fitted the story very well. Plus the original opening of the novel would have been really a surprise to the audience not familiar with the story.I can understand that they wanted to create continuity with LotR with a frame story but the prologue is a bit clunky to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Well, once we have all three films in extended form, master editor BloodBoal will see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Hey! I'll be waiting for you edit too! Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Pfff, I have barely edited a video in my life myself. At most I did some crude stop motion with dinosaurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 What's with the excuses?You could at least write a fanfic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I like J.R.R.'s fanfic already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I think Orlando blood also got more weight...he looks different (aside from the eyes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 "dwarvish disrespect"?so...dwarf butt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Oh yeah these final shots were terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Bilbo's theme in the movie is related to Bilbo's song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I think the dual Baggins/Tookish Side theme contains subtle references to the melody itself but of course they share the same step-wise progression of the Shire themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Glad I waited. I'll probably pick this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The LotR EEs were a pretty good indication that The Hobbit would receive the same treatment. I didn't even consider buying the theatrical edition of the movie in any format. Although one could say that the additions to the film might not be as welcome as in LotR where the extended and new scenes actually added some nice moments to the story but for the Hobbit PJs comments do not seem to bode so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Elijah Wood confirms he won't be appearing in the forthcoming films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I get a 404 error when I click your linkSeems strange they'd film a Frodo opening without a Frodo ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Yea, that's a good point - the prologue ends with Frodo leaving the house to go meet Gandalf, there really wouldn't be a way to have him show up in the Hobbit films again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The Hobbit has to close with Bilbo, not Frodo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 There have been no reports of Viggo Mortensen returning for filming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 They can easily take some random shot from LotR and stick it there at the end of the third film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Lets hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 How about this one? Perfectly mysterious blank image of Aragorn would bridge the trilogies with efficiency. No words, just this image. Shot through a shaky hand held (3D) camera, zooming in and out and hovering in a circle over it. Mysterious, tense, weird. Perhaps some theremin music underscoring it. Oscar worthy in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Probably ends with Gandalf knocking at Bilbo's door. Where Bilbo shouts, "No thank you!" Camera pulls back as voices recedes in the distance. The end.How about this one? Perfectly mysterious blank image of Aragorn would bridge the trilogies with efficiency. No words, just this image. Shot through a shaky hand held (3D) camera, zooming in and out and hovering in a circle over it. Mysterious, tense, weird. Perhaps some theremin music underscoring it. Oscar worthy in itself.With Gollum on his feet. Last words, "my precious" in an echoed whisper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Tauriel is hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Verily she is. Now let's see if her character has a point to it in the story itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I would make her my avatar if I wasn't annoyed by her existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The apparent new casting of renowned stage actor Sir Antony Sher is the big news here, and it seems to have flown under the radar for some reason. It certainly suggests Thrain will have a sizeable role in DoS, and will most certainly have some speaking parts. It wouldn't make sense to get a new actor of Sher's calibre in if the role of Thrain wasn't going to be ramped up. Already it seems they're re-doing his Azanulbizar scene, presumably for part of the prologue. I'd love for the film to begin kind of like The Two Towers, with a tracking shot beginning at the Doors of Durin, passing through Moria and coming out of the Dimrill Gate, where the two armies are embroiled in fighting (imagine the music possibilities here; Moria, Dwarrowdelf, Ancient Enemy variation). Thrain's story could then be related from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Tauriel is hot!I think her character will be a great addition actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 The apparent new casting of renowned stage actor Sir Antony Sher is the big news here, and it seems to have flown under the radar for some reason. It certainly suggests Thrain will have a sizeable role in DoS, and will most certainly have some speaking parts. It wouldn't make sense to get a new actor of Sher's calibre in if the role of Thrain wasn't going to be ramped up. Already it seems they're re-doing his Azanulbizar scene, presumably for part of the prologue. I'd love for the film to begin kind of like The Two Towers, with a tracking shot beginning at the Doors of Durin, passing through Moria and coming out of the Dimrill Gate, where the two armies are embroiled in fighting (imagine the music possibilities here; Moria, Dwarrowdelf, Ancient Enemy variation). Thrain's story could then be related from here.This could be promising. Anthony Sher is fantastic actor. I hope they have given him some good material to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Are you saying the re-cast Thrain from the actor who played Thrain in the first film?What's your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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