Barnald 365 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There's a challenge. I blame Warner, either for skimping, or possibly even wanting to hold them back for this ultimate box set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Seriously, I wonder why they were so much stingier w/the commentary tracks this time around, since they clearly didn't skimp on the Appendices. All I can imagine is that, given the rushed production schedule, the cast and crew simply weren't available to sit down and do the tracks. Pity, because in addition to the production and design commentaries, I could see two cast commentaries...one with the principal cast (including Armitage), and one with just the dwarves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm sure back in 2013 I read something about Jed Brophy confirming they'd just recorded a commentary. Perhaps he was mistaken and was talking about interviews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Discuss.What would be the point in that? It wouldn't add any information, merely repeat what is said in the appendices. The cool thing about the various commentaries in the LOTR EEs is that they added more info to what was already available in the Appendices (sure, some stuff was repeated, that's inevitable, but there were still stuff exclusive to the commentaries). What you suggest would bring nothing new to the table.Sorry to sound so harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Discuss.What would be the point in that? Because it would be cool.Clearly you're not interested in scoring the secret to removing the green tint from FOTR. Fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Clearly you're not interested in scoring the secret to removing the green tint from FOTR.I already know how to do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I am glad I never went with the blurays for LOTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Love the blu-rays!1080p baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I didn't buy the blu-rays either, mainly because they screwed up the Fellowship theatrical version.Anyway, is this subforum essentially redundant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Bring Tolkien back to General Discussion! Let the segregation end!#HobbitLivesMatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Got the last two Hobbit Chronicles books today. Great set of books. Hope Lord of the Rings' versions are in the works. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Hey guys, I just watched the extended version of BoFA for the first time. It was pretty silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 "Pretty"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Yes. Rather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Better than the theatrical cut, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 28 minutes ago, Incanus said: Yes. Rather. Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I don't think I ever ended up watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 You can certainly find better ways to spend 3 hours of your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Five Armies is the better film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, Jay said: Better than the theatrical cut, though. I'm not even sure that I agree with this. There are a few things I was happy to have. The slightly extended opening Smaug battle was a smidge better. The orc attempting to get Gandalf's ring added something, although it didn't stop the Nazgul fight from being confounding nonsense. The little bit of added business between Bofur and Bilbo before Bilbo sneaks off with the Arkenstone helped. The funeral was great. The VAST majority of additions (or at least meaningful additions) are just different gags during the battle, and fight gags are like the one thing in this movie that I thought Jackson's theatrical cut already had WAY too much of. Some of them got a chuckle out of me, most - whatever, they didn't. Some uys got crushed, somebody's bladed wagon wheels pulped four trolls' heads simultaneously, a troll choked to death on Alfrid. Some of the added stuff helped the battle make sense LOGISTICALLY (mainly the goat stuff and the cart chase). But it didn't help the movie make sense for me - not as a one-movie whole, not as a capper to the trilogy, and not as a bridge to LOTR. In the first time seeing the extended version (and the third time seeing the movie overall), my biggest problem remains. Thorin - our secondary protagonist, and frankly, a character that the series treats basically as the main protagonist - is completely unlikeable, in a way that is so uninteresting that it drags the film down. Because he's their king, he also sidelines every other dwarf to either tearfully protest or sit around bored for 2/3 of the movie. This was also the first time my wife saw the movie in NON-HFR, and her reaction - at least during the opening Laketown sequence - was, "Oh, it STILL looks awful" I know Jackson's official statement was that he wanted a tight war movie, but the fact that there were zero reshoots for the third movie bothers me. The extended version offerings were somewhat limited, and the film kind of (IMO) didn't come together as a whole. I'm operating on the assumption that WB cut Jackson off at the purse strings after DoS, and the movie suffered as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Five Armies is the better film Really? DoS at least allows for better performances and highlights. BotFA is one ugly looking mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 That they're both messes, I wouldn't dare argue. But something about the more emotional parts of BotFA ring false for me, like they're scripted beats. DoS at least had the Smaug/Bilbo act, which translated fairly well. And for the most part, the film still looked visually better than BotFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 DoS still has some natural vista shots that put it above BotFA. The latter is like watching vomit covered skies for 3 hours. And they're both bad films. But I can enjoy a handful of scenes from DoS (namely the Smaug conversation scene) and tune out the rest. Whereas I struggle to do the same with BotFA, and the more I think about that one, the more annoyed I get. Who would have thought, that AUJ would remain the best film of the lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, KK said: DoS still has some natural vista shots that put it above BotFA. The latter is like watching vomit covered skies for 3 hours. And they're both bad films. But I can enjoy a handful of scenes from DoS (namely the Smaug conversation scene) and tune out the rest. Whereas I struggle to do the same with BotFA, and the more I think about that one, the more annoyed I get. Who would have thought, that AUJ would remain the best film of the lot? Agree with all of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 512 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 57 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Can't believe you prefer DOS overall, though, the most awful Middle-Earth film. It is the best film of the hobbit trilogy according to the critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Critics are loons and arseholes, we know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smaug The Iron 512 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Well for me personally AUJ is the best and BOFA is the worst in the hobbit trilogy. But it is more about that I like the first half of the book better then the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 AUJ is definitely the most well-rounded movie of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Yup. Even with the naked dwarves in that one short shot. Brrr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 You prudish North men! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Tolkien was rolling in his grave when that scene was written and again when it was shot and third time when it was released to the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Incanus said: Tolkien was rolling in his grave when that scene was written and again when it was shot and third time when it was released to the world! Shoudln't have included a scene of dwarves bathing in the book so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 You act as though Tolkien had never seen his fair share of Dwarven arse cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I don't think he imagined and thought about them to a great extent, in normal or literary life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Incanus said: I don't think he imagined and thought about them to a great extent, in normal or literary life. In that case he's rather different to the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 He was indeed special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 On 7. November 2016 at 5:41 PM, BloodBoal said: Visually, I can't choose between the two. It'd be like choosing between dog poo and cat poo. At the end of the day, it's still poo. Can't believe you prefer DOS overall, though, the most awful Middle-Earth film. Maybe you're no true Tolkien fan after all. Maybe you're just a fraud. The Hobbit films are not exactly perfect, but to refer to them as dog shit is really not appropriate at all. Get off your horse there. Evanus and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 This forum seems to consider them the worst thing ever made. The Devil incarnate in movie form! They are flawed but entertaining blockbusters. SafeUnderHill and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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