When listening to a 5min theme/cue takes 15mins.

[Quintus 5,391]

Especially were Williams is concerned. I'm talking about when I'm listening to a piece of score (usually a fave of mine) and I keep rewinding the damn thing at my favourite moments, replaying that burst of brass or clash of percussion over and over again because I just love it so much - it hits the right spot.

For example: Far From Home / E.T. Alone takes me bloody ages to get through, simply because I rewind the bits I love so much. And thats just one example, there are many more.

A 70min album can take me 2hrs to get through! Am I the only one who has this 'problem'?

[robthehand 3]

I rarely manage to listen to the last track on the expanded Close Encounters CD without (a) rewinding it a few times (B) jumping out of my seat and conducting madly.

[Romão 1,931]

That track just elevates your spirit.

[crocodile 6,294]

Listening to something like ESB takes me 10 hrs

When I obtained ST:TMP recently I listened to it 7 times in a row! And I wasn't even tired of it.

Karol

[Sergeant 1,093]

It's nice to hear that I'm not only one having that "problem" , especially when it come's

to those brassy statements like ending of the cue "return of the Jedi".

My wife always complain "why can't you listen normally?"-- I'm just listening more" carefully" ,

like 10 times same spot...

[Romão 1,931]

The Battle of Endor I takes me several times back and forward.

[Morlock 9]

Oh, that happens to me all the time. Over the past few days, I put a couple of LoTR tracks on my play list. In 'Isengard Unleashed', from TTT, I listened to the so called 'nature theme' over and over and over again. It is my second favorite theme from the scores, after the Gondor theme, and I love the restraint with which it was used in the first two films. When the bird saves Gandalf from the tower in the first film, I was struck by those few seconds of that theme more than just about any other moment in the score. I was a bit dissapointed in the third film that Shore abandoned the concept of it being the nature theme, but it's still a great theme.

[Trent B 317]

Same thing has been known to happen to me with scores and cues. So you're not alone.

[tpigeon 3]

Oh, that happens to me all the time. Over the past few days, I put a couple of LoTR tracks on my play list. In 'Isengard Unleashed', from TTT, I listened to the so called 'nature theme' over and over and over again. It is my second favorite theme from the scores, after the Gondor theme, and I love the restraint with which it was used in the first two films. When the bird saves Gandalf from the tower in the first film, I was struck by those few seconds of that theme more than just about any other moment in the score. I was a bit dissapointed in the third film that Shore abandoned the concept of it being the nature theme, but it's still a great theme.

Nice comments. That is also one of my favorite themes. With each film he developed it more until finally unleashing it in all its glory in the third film, which I loved. When Rohan decides to go to Gondor's rescue and when the Rohirrim charge into the field of Pelennor, I get chills every time. It's just beautiful.

Ted, who cannot wait to get the complete recordings of Return of the King because he is convinced it's one of the best - the complete score that is - scores he's ever heard.

[Melisande 0]

Window to the Past is that way for me. I get the chills and then press pause, and then back up and play that section over again. Now that I think of it, I think I'm going to play PoA again right now

[Morlock 9]

Nice comments. That is also one of my favorite themes. With each film he developed it more until finally unleashing it in all its glory in the third film, which I loved. When Rohan decides to go to Gondor's rescue and when the Rohirrim charge into the field of Pelennor, I get chills every time. It's just beautiful.

I was just dissapointed that it wasn't used in it's original context, that of nature.

[MrScratch 292]

I can't "rewind" a piece before it's finished. I can only listen to a track/cue/movement in it's entirety. Those big gorgeous moments aren't as effective without the rest of the piece. I also never listen to any piece of music twice in the same day.

Jeff

[Quintus 5,391]

Nice comments. That is also one of my favorite themes. With each film he developed it more until finally unleashing it in all its glory in the third film, which I loved. When Rohan decides to go to Gondor's rescue and when the Rohirrim charge into the field of Pelennor, I get chills every time. It's just beautiful.

I was just disappointed that it wasn't used in it's original context, that of nature.

On the contrary, seeing as that particular (and wonderful) theme has no real official title, I rather refer to it as a theme of hope. Hope against unbeatable evil, against all odds - Human Spirit. Having said that, I respect the reasons why some people call it the 'Nature' theme, indeed it suits that purpose too. The theme is wholly ambiguous, adding to its genius.

I still liken it to the Force theme. It serves the exact same purpose: Believe in yourself.

[Ollie 859]

Usually I play them staright thru, or my wife will end up throwing something at me.

Now when I'm alone it may take me 15 minutes to get thru a 3-4 min cue....

[TheTennisBallKid 11]

It's not really exclusively about nature in the first two films; there's a statement of it at Amon Hen when Merry and Pippin distract the Orcs so Frodo can escape....

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[David Vincent 8]

I can't "rewind" a piece before it's finished.  I can only listen to a track/cue/movement in it's entirety.

Same for me, except that I can stop a piece before the end if I have not listened to it carefully enough. The only part of the day when I can listen to music is when I go to work in my car, so sometimes, I am so concentrated to the road that I have to rewind a cue that I have not listened to enough.

We are crazy

[Quintus 5,391]

We are crazy  

And unashamed! At least we are not part of the world wide musical flock

[SomeNewGuy 0]

I almost never interrupt a track. If I want to hear a part of it again, I just replay the whole thing once it ends.

[Red 73]

When its a short track (You Are the Pan) I'll restart it several times, but when its long (Battle of Endor, ect.) I'll rewind it to a specific part that I love.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

I don't like pausing or rewinding. Especially not rewinding in the middle of a track. And some things just work a whole lot better if there's a long buildup to them.

[Richard Penna 2,082]

It happens to me a lot, my most recent example being Regaining a Son from 7Y in Tibet.

I also found myself endlessly rewinding I Had to Go from McNeely's Ghosts of the Abyss at work.

Other cues for which I just kept replaying a certain bit over and over are:

Origami Lava from The Core

A King's Lament from Tristan & Isolde

Our Vital Contribution from The Dish

I also have a serious problem with The Great Eatlon, Dry Your Tears, Afrika, Digging Montage (Chumscrubber) and Humanity Goes on Trial. The Great Eatlon is particularly bad, because in my work developing an imminent product from Philips called amBX, I was asked to write a custom script for a piece of music (click the link to see what that means) which meant I had to listen to most parts of the track something like 20 times in a row.

[John Crichton 4]

I don't like pausing or rewinding. Especially not rewinding in the middle of a track. And some things just work a whole lot better if there's a long buildup to them.

I agree with the representitive from Alphen aan den Rijn. Pretty much the only times I've ever rewound in the middle of a track is if I thought I heard something new thematically that I've never noticed before, some subtle connection or something that was worth double checking.

[Alan 600]

Nice comments. That is also one of my favorite themes. With each film he developed it more until finally unleashing it in all its glory in the third film, which I loved. When Rohan decides to go to Gondor's rescue and when the Rohirrim charge into the field of Pelennor, I get chills every time. It's just beautiful.

I was just dissapointed that it wasn't used in it's original context, that of nature.

Morlock, I actually had the same reaction to the themes use in ROTK as well, initially. It’s called ‘Natures Reclamation’ and it’s one of my favourite themes on the LOTR scores. Although I loved the cue in the film with the film played in its grandest way, I couldn’t figure out why it was actually used there.

That was until I saw the film recently and something struck me. I now think that its used correctly and more specifically, it relates to the sun-rise in that scene. The natural sun overcoming the un-natural Mordor Dark that Sauron sent so that his Orcs could reach Minas Tirith. The Rohan theme then kicks in once nature has played its part.

Just my theory anyway….

Oh, and on topic, yeah I have the same problem of listening to the same section of a cue over and over again. Im stuck on the brass and percussion ouburst in "The Sword That Was Broken" now. Dont really know why, but I always loved that cue even before the CR was released.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

I think Jackson just really, really liked that theme.

Notice that it was tracked into the last stand at Helm's Deep at the end of TTT.

[Alan 600]

Yeah, there was a fair amount of that in TTT. Smoothly done though (mostly) so not going to complain too much. Apparently the CR is going to have ALOT of un-used material. Cant wait.

[Morlock 9]

On the contrary, seeing as that particular (and wonderful) theme has no real official title, I rather refer to it as a theme of hope. Hope against unbeatable evil, against all odds - Human Spirit. Having said that, I respect the reasons why some people call it the 'Nature' theme, indeed it suits that purpose too. The theme is wholly ambiguous, adding to its genius.

I recall Doug Adams saying that Shore said during the sessions of the first film that it is a theme associated with nature, specifically. It works perfectly in the first two films, where nature comes to the aid of the fellowship, but in the third film, is used having nothing to do with nature. The Rohan theme would be the theme to use over there. As I said, I love the theme, and it works in the third film extremely well, but it's rather inconsistant of Shore to have a theme pull the old 'Princess Leia's theme when Luke is flying on Hoth' trick.

[TheTennisBallKid 11]

I believe that this is the most definitive statement that has been made about what the Nature theme represents, thus far:

Doug Adams]>>>So Doug do you have an answer for this one? Was the use of the Nature's theme deliberate when it was tracked in the Helm's Deep scene or wasn't it?>>>

Again, yes it was deliberate – on the part of the filmmakers.

Ok, before I go more in-depth, a bit about the Nature Theme – or more specifically, Nature’s Reclamation. Nature’s Reclamation is a very general theme that represents Middle-earth’s resistance to the encroaching industrialization as embodied by the Orcs, the Uruk’s, Saruman, Isengard, Mordor, etc. (Or, I suppose you could boil that all down to Sauron, all others being extensions of his will.) I don’t know if you’d call it a Eucatastrophe theme, though I suppose you could. Really, it’s the theme of the machinery of the Eucatastrophe. The theme of the provider, the enabler, less than the event itself. It’s a giving theme. The moth is aiding Gandalf. The Ents are protecting the forests.

So what of the Rohirrim at Helm’s Deep... specifically Théoden? Unquestionably there are acts of selflessness here. Théoden, for all he knows, is riding to his doom. But are the Rohirrim really acting as givers... are they the machinery behind a Eucatastrophic event?* Does Théoden’s act really lead to victory at Helm’s Deep? No, it’s the intervention of Gandalf the White. Gandalf now exists in Middle-earth by the will of the same forces that govern Nature’s will. He has been sent back to tend to a task. And at Helm’s Deep, Gandalf is the giver. The Rohirrim are not his people, specifically. He’s bringing them aid. So you will find that in Two Towers there is a second Nature theme that specifically applies to Gandalf the White’s presence in Middle-earth, and it is this theme that originally underscored this scene in the film. It’s a subordinate Nature theme and much more specific dramatically. Before you go scrambling for your DVDs, this isn’t apparent in the film because of the tracking. But it’s gloriously obvious on CD when you hear the complete score.

[*I should note that the Rohirrim do eventually become givers—enablers of a Eucatastrophe—in Return of the King, so it makes more sense for the Nature’s Reclamation theme to be assigned to them here. (At Helm's Deep they're not really acting in defense of Middle-earth, they're defending themselves.)

Not only do the Rohirrim represent the purity and simple power of a rural lifestyle in Tolkien’s hierarchy, but in ROTK they’re actively serving the will of Nature rather than receiving its benefits.]

And as I said before, it's also at Amon Hen...

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