finalscore 10 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Round Two of the comparison between the works of John Williams vs. Jerry Goldsmith covers the years 1980 - 1985. Both composed for feature films and TV. Williams had the distinction of becoming principal conductor of the Boston Pops in 1980. This may have been a reason for his cinematic score output. Between 1981 - 1985 Goldsmith composed 23 scores while Williams only composed 10 for film & TV. Included also was his fantastic theme for the 1984 Olympics. Additionally Williams composed the theme for Yes, Giorgio, and his themes for Superman and JAWS were utilized in the Sequels Superman II & III and JAWS 3D, respectively. During this period the Star Trek series of films had sequels as well, but did not utilize Goldsmith's themes from Star Trek: The Motion Picture. As in the previous posting, below are the compositions of Goldsmith & Willaims during this period. What are your thoughts and favorites from this period? GOLDSMITH'S WORKS THE FINAL CONFLICT 1981MASADA 1981INCHON 1981OUTLAND 1981RAGGEDY MAN 1981THE SALAMANDER 1981NIGHT CROSSING 1981POLTERGEIST 1982THE SECRET OF N.I.M.H. 1982THE CHALLENGE 1982FIRST BLOOD 1982PSYCHO II 1983TWILIGHT ZONE - THE MOVIE 1983UNDER FIRE 1983THE LONELY GUY 1984GREMLINS 1984SUPERGIRL 1984RUNAWAY 1984BABY : THE SECRET OF THE LOST LEGEND 1985RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART 2 1985EXPLORERS 1985LEGEND 1985KING SOLOMON'S MINES 1985WILLIAMS, WORKS RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK 1981YES, GIORGIO (Theme Only) 1982E.T. - THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL 1982MONSIGNOR 1982RETURN OF THE JEDI 1983INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM 19841984 OLYMPICS THEME 1984THE RIVER 1984AMAZING STORIES 1985THE MISSION - AMAZING STORIES 1985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 82, based on the quality of two scores ET, and Poltergeist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 1981 for me - Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Final Conflict, Masada, Inchon, Outland and Night Crossing.1982 would be very close behind, for E.T. and Poltergeist, but I prefer Raiders and The Final Conflict, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 WOW....just looking at 1981 and 1982 sends chills up and down my spine. I'll go with 1981, but 1982 is not even a nanonmeter behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 1985, obviously. Just look at the Goldsmith stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 -82. I have only heard Poltergeist and N.I.M.H , both are great.EDIT: I know also E.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 1985, obviously. Just look at the Goldsmith stuff!Hmm... yes. 1985 has my current tied-favourite Goldsmith score, and at least one GREAT Williams score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 1985, obviously. Just look at the Goldsmith stuff! 83' has that beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrygollay 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 1982 / WILLIAMS ' HEARTBEEPS have been forgotten ...Favorite of all time Outland and Raiders, Poltergeist and E.T ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 1982, but 1981 and '85 are not far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Both 81 & 82 were great years but 82' gets the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I know only about 10 % of Mr. Goldsmith's output , only the more famous scores.( I love them)But in 1981 , seven scores! There must be mistake.Or if not , they cannot be all listenable.Just out of curiosity.I'm a novice in film music(except Williams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 THE FINAL CONFLICT 1981MASADA 1981INCHON 1981OUTLAND 1981I don't know the other 3 but these 4 are great. 3 of them are career highlights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Why no love for 83'? Two of the best Goldsmith scores and one fine Williams one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I know only about 10 % of Mr. Goldsmith's output , only the more famous scores.( I love them)But in 1981 , seven scores! There must be mistake.Or if not , they cannot be all listenable.Just out of curiosity.I'm a novice in film music(except Williams)Outland is probably the only weak score out of Goldsmith's 81 output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Has The Salamander been released? Morlock- Who of Jerry's 81' output has not yet heard that and Inchon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Inchon is fantastic, Jonathan.A great mix of Goldsmith's militaristic sound and his ethnic sound. The simple Lim's Theme stayed in my head for days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Would that I could find it. It is impossibley expensive, and no one in my circle of traders has it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Yeah I was lucky to snatch up a copy before it became a hype and sold for 70.00 Dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 THE FINAL CONFLICT 1981MASADA 1981INCHON 1981OUTLAND 1981I don't know the other 3 but these 4 are great. 3 of them are career highlights!How is that possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Oh wait I know Night Crossing too, and it's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Has The Salamander been released?No but you can listen to the theme over at Jerry Goldsmith Online. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Right. I didn't like the clip, actually. Boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Really? It's pure Goldsmith in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 ...and it sounds like several other pieces of pure Goldsmith in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Maybe. I'd like an official release of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 So would I. I'm sure a two minutes clip does no credit to the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Night Crossing is a definitive career highlight. Final Conflict doesn't require any more words.I think 1981 stands a good chance here. The Draughtsman's Contract (Michael Nyman) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrygollay 0 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Outland is probably the only weak score out of Goldsmith's 81 output.No, no, no , Outland is a very good score !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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