The 79th Academy Awards

[Trent B 337]

Was Williams even in any nominee's?

[nightscape94 965]

I was expecting either that or the song from Cars because I figured the three songs from Dreamgirls would divide the votes.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

Was Williams even in any nominee's?

Of course he wasn't. Sunday night football themes don't get Academy Award nominations.

[Smeagol 0]

Okay, who is he b**t-f***ing?

i don't know but there's definitely something behind this... somebody is watching over for this guy. what just happened here is an insult, an insult to the other nominees... f**k...

and yes, the morricone thing felt kinda awkward, but that's fine, i understand him being nervous and stuff but I don't care! he's freaking Morricone! he's allowed to do that...

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Was Williams even in any nominee's?

No.

[Eric_JWFAN 11]

There is some good news, and it has nothing to do with car insurance...

According to IMDB, he has no feature films until 2009. But the damage is already done. Santoewhatever-his-name-is now owns more Oscars than Bernard Hermann... and Jerry Goldsmith... and many many other far superior musicians.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Jerry still has more nominations. Many, mannnnyy more nominations.

[Smeagol 0]

There is some good news, and it has nothing to do with car insurance...

According to IMDB, he has no feature films until 2009. But the damage is already done. Santoewhatever-his-name-is now owns more Oscars than Bernard Hermann... and Jerry Goldsmith... and many many superiors.

well i bet you he'll get some offers after this! AND THAT'S THE BAD THING! that because of this he'll keep showing up...

[KingPin 201]

He's not Brazilian, he's Argentinian. Were he Brazilian, he probably would write better scores.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

Film Editing

The Departed

[nightscape94 965]

Thelma is awesome.

[Eric_JWFAN 11]

In all seriousness, do you think Santaolalla is a bit embarrased because he knows he's not doing much to earn these awards, and he is accepting the Oscar in front of hundreds of thousands of musicians around the world who are in disbelief?

Or... do you think he is totally oblivious to the criticism because he trully thinks he is the best?

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

Actress - Leading

Helen Mirren - The Queen

[nightscape94 965]

I love Helen!

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

Actor - Leading

Forest Whitaker - The Last King of Scotland

[Smeagol 0]

im going to bed... i don't even want to finish watching the thing... i'm so pissed...

good night people, I need to rest so i can keep ranting about this tomorrow

peace

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

Directing

Martin Scorsese - The Departed

Yeah!

[Ollie 1,059]

Well they got one thing right tonite.

[ymenard 54]

I'm not sure if he's truly aware of the disguss by the craftman and artisan of the musical film industry. His scores are "appreciated" very much by the mainstream public who has bought his 3 big score in high numbers. Motorcycle Diaries, Brokeback and Babel are some of the best score CD sellers in years (like it or not).

I don't think he's dumb, he knows his only reason for existance in movie is the effectiveness of his guitar composition for certain movies. It's all about the same, for a reason. It's a seller for certain directors, who like this type of sound. But those directors know they have to rely on other music. In fact I wonder why don't they just take his already existing material like any other song or classical piece.

I also wonder why he's eligible, considering that most of the music in Babel by him was not created for Babel but is based on existing material. It's not like it's only "part" of the score was taken from existing material (like Philip Glass' The Hours), we're talking about _most_ of it. Heck, _most_ of the music in Babel wasn't even by him!!!

[Eric_JWFAN 11]

They talk about the secrecy of the sealed envelopes, that only 1 person knows the results before it is opened... So how is it that the orchestra is ready to play the theme music for each winner within a 1/2 second of the announcement?

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

Best Picture

The Departed

And that's it for this year.

[nightscape94 965]

MARTY!

Also, I'm so incredibly happy Babel didn't win best picture.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

They talk about the secrecy of the sealed envelopes, that only 1 person knows the results before it is opened... So how is it that the orchestra is ready to play the theme music for each winner within a 1/2 second of the announcement?

HA....BUSTED!

[ymenard 54]

They talk about the secrecy of the sealed envelopes, that only 1 person knows the results before it is opened... So how is it that the orchestra is ready to play the theme music for each winner within a 1/2 second of the announcement?

iirc they orchestrate and practice for all, but only when they sit in their seat do they have the "final" composition sheets. There's no name on them so people sitting in the seats can't peak at the bottom pit.

It's the same thing for the best animated feature, they have to do a "winner" and "loser" variation.

[David Coscina 3]

Wow! The Pixar films lost in both animated categories. That's a shock.

not really- it was a sub-par effort compared to the last film they released

[Dole 17]

I think this year was another case of the Best Score Oscar being a "make up" award. Babel was totally shut out in every other category. I think that helped Santaowhateverhisnameis. Voters didn't want the film to go home empty handed so they threw it the Oscar for scoring just like in the past (Brokeback Mountain, Finding Neverland, etc.)

[King Mark 3,631]

At least we were spared the heartbreak of another Williams loss,because he would have lost whatever he wrote.

i think the Pan's Labirinth is "williams caliber" btw,and I don't say that often

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

Gustavo is the luckiest man alive.

But hey, GO MARTY!!! B)

i think the Pan's Labirinth is "williams caliber" btw,and I don't say that often

Because it's the theme from the Eiger Sanction?

[King Mark 3,631]

No some cues are amazingly structured and orchestrated like track 4 The Fairy and The Labirinth,the album gets a bit boring near the end only.

and Lucas saying"Hey,but i don't have an academy award" was the funniest moment of the night.

[Ollie 1,059]

Because it's the theme from the Eiger Sanction?

That's what I thought was being whistled at the beginning of the telecast.

[nightscape94 965]

Again, Marty, love ya!

Tim

[King Mark 3,631]

From now on the score category should be introduced:

And the Oscar goes to..whatever film that's nominated a lot but won't win anything else.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

It won't take long that other film scorer will simply lobby like they did in the early 90's with Menken. Menken was NOT diserving the awards he got, nor does that guy.

Didnt they have a Animated or Comedy score category during Menken's time? In any case, his work was pretty brilliant, and lumping him together with Santa is rubbish.

Burga - who came home from school, checked the results and nearly screamed Darth Vader style, NOOOOOOooOOOOOoOOOO!!!!!!!!

[nightscape94 965]

Well, Babel didn't deserve to win best picture, so fine. However, the director is a good one, and if Gustavo rides that train for the rest of his career, you may see his name attached to some mighty fine films, and thus he will continue to be nominated.

Tim

[Morlock 11]

Show was rather bad. But the awards were rather good. Thrilled about Marty and The Departed, though it would have been very embarassing if Francis, George and Steve came together and someone else would have won. It richly deserved the editing and writing awards, too.

I'm happy the Dreamgirls songs were shut out- none of them were good. I don't think the winning song was either, but the Dreamgirls songs were just...meh. I'm happy happy Hudson got it. Don't know why on earth they gave the film best sound- like Chicago, anything with songs must have great sound, right?

I'm sorely disapointed for Emmanuel Lubezki losing the cinematography one. I haven't seen Pan, and have nothing against it's DP, bit Lubezki's work on Children of Men was just amazing. And if not him, Dick Pope's work on The Illusionist was also spectacular.

I'm fine with Little Miss Sunshine's wins- it was a wonderful movie, deserving of the screenplay award. And while I am sorry for Eddie Murphy, I am very happy that Alan Arkin won. He was wonderful in the film.

Helen Mirren won, and deservedly so. Least surprising award ever.

Whitacker gave a terrific performance, but I'm not sure he deserved the best actor. He was the supporting actor.

I wish Letters From Iwo Jima wouldn't have won the sound editing award....it is a rather pathetic award to have as your only award (Pearl Harbor also won on that award).

I'm very happy that PoTC won for VFX.

Now, the biggie. I am greatly disapointed that Santaollalla won, as you all are. I would be up in arms about it, but I learned long ago that while the acadamy might get it right elsewhere every once in a while, it has a lousy track record when it comes to score. Although I still am outraged that a score that should not have been eligable by any means won. And it's adding insult to injury that the brief clip of the nominee shows him playing the piece he wrote a decade ago.

[Hlao-roo 389]

If anyone could PM me a link to a video of the entire Morricone segment (Eastwood flubbing, Dion squawking, and all), I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

[bruuen 0]

I'm sure people will flame me on this one, but i actually thought Gustavo's score was a deserving win. I am also a big fan of 'Babel' as well. The music doesn't hold up well on its own, but i found it very fitting in the movie. The erieness of the instruments used in their suttlety really brought out the character of the film. I don't know if gustavo had anything to do with the final song with the piano? but that was also an excellent work.

However, where i do have a problem is with his win from last year. His score for brokeback mountain defeating memoirs of a geisha almost made me throw up, that was the most undeserving disgusting win i've ever seen (next to james horner's 'braveheart' losing ot 'crouching tiger hidden dragon') I don't think i need to go into much detail on that one since i'm sure you're all familiar with both scores by now. But i think last years loss made me throw in the towel giving any credibility to the oscars, and receiving an award is a big joke. Obviously anyone with a hint of musical knowledge wouldn't have voted for the simplistic unoriginal melody of brokeback mountain over the beautiful sounds of memoirs.

[Morlock 11]

I do not think that Babel did not deserve to win because of the effectiveness of the score, but because a lot of the prominant music in the film was not written for this film. He had nothing to do with the piano/strings piece at the end, that was written a while ago by Ryuchi Sakamoto. Whoever produced the soundtrack and compiled the music for the film may have done a good job. But Santaollalla did not do an exemplary job of writing an original score for the film.

[Saxbabe 28]

Terribly boring Oscars this year.

We all know Best Score has become a big joke, but it still makes you disgusted. A three note score on guitar wins an Oscar twice when somebody like Thomas Newman still doesn't have one. What an absolute farce.

Glad for Helen Mirren and Forest Whitaker, two fantastic actors.

And thank GOD Marty finally got his Oscar! It was worth sitting through all that to see him up there with his old friends getting his deserved props. And Best Pic too! Great.

Rest of it was dreadful dreary though. I felt a bit sorry for Morricone, he looked ill at ease during the tribute (did Eastwood forget to take his medicine?) and the whole thing was so awkward. The tribute was lovely however, and richly deserved, he got a nice long ovation and truly seemed moved in his acceptance, even though we don't know quite what he said.

Well, that's it for another year, I found a few films tonight that are on my list to see, and spent the night chatting with JWFans, so it wasn't a total loss.

Maybe next year will be better...

Greta

[Hellgi 0]

They talk about the secrecy of the sealed envelopes, that only 1 person knows the results before it is opened... So how is it that the orchestra is ready to play the theme music for each winner within a 1/2 second of the announcement?

iirc they orchestrate and practice for all, but only when they sit in their seat do they have the "final" composition sheets. There's no name on them so people sitting in the seats can't peak at the bottom pit.

It's the same thing for the best animated feature, they have to do a "winner" and "loser" variation.

Here's the true and only story: for most categories, the orchestra has a three-page score with a play-on for the 5 possible winners, clearly labeled. They have 1-2 seconds to find the good one (sometimes more when the names or movie title are long) and off they go on the conductor's downbeat.

Hellgi

[Dole 17]

The thing that really put the whole Gustavo win in perspective for me was that the audience applauded the loudest during the Morricone tribute when the orchestra played his theme for The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly which wasn't even nominated by the Academy! 400 plus film scores and the man has 6 nominations! It's all quite silly.

[Neimoidian 14]

Damn, I haven't been that disappointed since ... last year. I still grieve over Williams loosing last year, but on the other hand "BM" score was fine enough that people liked it and remembered it, and even though it wasn't on par with "MOAG", I could imagine why Academy picked it.

From what I heard, "Babel" is much less interesting and inspired score, and it consists of material that was mostly writtten by someone else. Last but not least Santaolalla came with the same simple and semi improvised guitar sound. I don't say this is wrong approach... but it doesn't deserve Oscar two years in a row over scores that was equally (or more) effective in the movies, not to mention that they required more work and more skills! Disgrace once again) (Stefan, it is not the first time when Academy has "ultimately" digraced itself ).

The Award to Martin Scorsese - it is another make-up merit. He did very fine movie, but not his best definitelly. "Departed" had great story (unoriginal, but great), but the directing was merely a great craft. Nothing more. This movie doesn't stand up to Scorsese's finest pictures - those that weren't pure spectalce or entertainment, but were thought-provoking, ground-breaking and exceptional. Sad...

The main actors awards - Mirren and Withaker. At last someone who deserved their awards.

Best foreign picture - "The Life of others" I haven't seen it yet, but I have heard that it is great movie (that already won Best European Movie Award and did great in Cannes). However, I cheered for "Pan's Labirynth".

FX award for Pirates - at least Academy made right choice. John Knoll deserved it for looong time.

EDIT - How could I forget Morricone The man deserved the merit for even loooonger and he got it finally. the only Oscar-related thing that make my day happy.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

None of these wins or losses really bother me. I haven't seen one film nominated and not heard one score nominated. Do I need to get out more?

[Morlock 11]

The thing that really put the whole Gustavo win in perspective for me was that the audience applauded the loudest during the Morricone tribute when the orchestra played his theme for The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly which wasn't even nominated by the Academy! 400 plus film scores and the man has 6 nominations! It's all quite silly.

Yeah...he might have won the award unjustly (The game was up when Penelope Cruz came out to present), but at least it was pretty blase. No one seemed to have cared all that much, not even Gustavo himself. And the very deserving Morricone and Scorsese got the biggest ovasions. Scorsese's in aprticular was quite touching.

And I must take exception about all the the talk that Scorsese didn't win for his best film....the Oscars aren't supposed to award people for their best work. They are supposed to award the person most deserving during that given year. And Scorsese pic was the best of the five nominated this year, IMO the second best film of the year. He deserved it this year specifically, and not only for the ones he didn't win for The Aviator, Gangs of New York, Goodfellas or Raging Bull.

Besides that, I believe that while this may not be his single best film (I don't think any film can rightfully claim that title, he's got so many great ones), I am just as excited by his current output than I am by his output in the 70's and 80's. And I do think that The Departed is one of his best films. I think it's a shame that people are downgrading the current film because of his past work.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

The game was up when Penelope Cruz came out to present

Ohhh, she did?! I might just watch it tonight then.

[Morlock 11]

None of these wins or losses really bother me. I haven't seen one film nominated and not heard one score nominated. Do I need to get out more?

Yes. Yes you do. All five of the best picture nominees were very good, and the winner was best of all. All five of them should be seen, IMO, as well as United 93, Casino Royale, Last King of Scotland and V for Vendetta. Those are IMO the best films from 2006 (haven't yet seen Pan's Labrynth and The Lives of Others, two other films that look like they could round out the list).

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

The only movies I saw last year were V for Vendetta, The Pink Panther, Big Momma's House 2, Firewall, She's The Man, Silent Hill and Casino Royale. All of those besides CR I saw because they were the only ones that fit into my three hour lunchbreaks at uni. Maybe I could be a Razzie reviewer!

[Morlock 11]

Indeed. I'd advise you to at least check out The Departed. Excellent movie, fit for most movie-goers I've encountered.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Yeah, I wanted to see The Departed, but I was too busy. I'll wait for the DVD.

[Miguel Andrade 1,263]

I'm not a film music fan -- I guess I've been a long time ago, probably around 1977 or so -- and I'm less and less a film fan. And as far as Oscars are concerned I'm glad I skipped this years cerimony, otherwise I would have an heart attack.

I've nothing against mr Santaollala, but to say that his work is better, even as a soundscape and not from a musical standpoint, than other of the nomenees, is a joke. And to get two wins in a row, a feet done by few, is just laughtable.

I did tape the show, and will watch it later, only for the Morricone part, though I didn't understand what was the problem with that one...

Yet, i'm glad that finally this jerks gave a Oscar to Marty Scorcesse -- not that one right will make for all those wrong ones...