Sandor 459 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Recently I found out that Cronenberg's A History Of Violence is based on a graphic novel (a more mature (pretentious?) way of saying 'comic book', right?) I loved the movie and it instilled in me the question: what is the single best movie based on a comic? Personally; I thought Sin City had it's moments. The original Superman film is still great and - for those who have seen it - 300 is suppose to be amazing (although I have my doubts...).What is your favorite movie based on a comic book? (Hoping no one picks Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Superman - The Movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Als Je Begrijpt Wat Ik Bedoel based on Dutch comic book author's Maarten Toonders creation of Ollie B. Bommel.I grew up with this, and have seen it more then any other comic book based film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Superman - The Movie is a very good movie, but Spider-Man feels like a comic book all the way. And in a positive way. Then again, I don't know the slightest thing about comic books other than the superhero genre.-Ross, who thinks you can't get more comic-like than the pizza delivery opening in Spider-Man II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 It depends on what you want in a comic book movie. If you want direct adaptations then Batman Begins and Sin City are spot on. If you want your comic book movie to capture the feel of the book or character that it is based upon without actually being faithful to it in terms of story, then Superman - The Movie is a good choice.'Course then there are those films which aren't faithful on a basic level at all, yet still are brilliant and even improve the characters in some cases. For that, I would recommend Batman Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 32 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Superman - The Movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I haven't read a comic in ages so I can't comment on some of the graphic novels brought to the screen but Superman The Movie is tops for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Batman Begins and The Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Superman, Batman, Batman Begins, Spider-Man 2, and Daredevil Director's Cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I don't read comics so I can't speak to best adaptation, but I know which I think is just the plain best movie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Probably Batman Begins, although Men In Black is definitely another good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Graphic Novels are really a category all their own, and I don't consider them comic books like Spider-man, X-Men, Spawn, etc...So in the realm of 'Comic Book' movies, either Superman: The Movie, Spider-man 2 or The Crow.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 For me it would be Batman Begins and the two Spider-Man films. That's just me though. I honestly feel that the Spider-Man films are under-rated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Spiderman 1 and 2, Batman Begins, Sin City, V for Vendetta are very good movies, but Superman - The Movie (while technically inferior on some points) has a certain intangible quality to it which raises it far above anything else done so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Superman, Batman, Batman Begins, Spider-Man 2, and Daredevil Director's Cut.Are these characters uhh... auto... erotica? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Batman Returns, X-Men, and X-2.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Spiderman 1 and 2, Batman Begins, Sin City, V for Vendetta are very good movies, but Superman - The Movie (while technically inferior on some points) has a certain intangible quality to it which raises it far above anything else done so far.Probably the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Spiderman 1 and 2, Batman Begins, Sin City, V for Vendetta are very good movies, but Superman - The Movie (while technically inferior on some points) has a certain intangible quality to it which raises it far above anything else done so far.Probably the score.Partially... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Spiderman 1 and 2, Batman Begins, Sin City, V for Vendetta are very good movies,Agreed.but Superman - The Movie (while technically inferior on some points) has a certain intangible quality to it which raises it far above anything else done so far.I still don't see that. In fact, I rate it among the worse superhero movies I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I don't find anything special with it either.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I don't find anything special with it either.Come on... the score and the cinematography must at least qualify as special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Fantastic first hour, and but the rest of the movie just drags, and you can feel it in the score as well. Musically, the first half is like a symphony, with very independent movements depicting each aspect of ther Superman mythos and it provides us with a fantastic listening experience. After that, it just drags a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Agreed.- Marc, who thinks Superman: The Movie has both one of the greatest opening titles and one of the lamest endings ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I used to have a problem with the ending, and it does still seem a little contrived - but that's not really the point. The point is that he's disobeying the most important instruction he was given (not to interfere with human history).The only bit that drags for me is the final segment - from when they go to Addis Ababa (sp?) onwards. I love the Krypton, Smallville and Metropolis scenes.And no, I don't think the score drags at all in the second half - just listen to "Chasing Rockets". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Spiderman 1 and 2, Batman Begins, Sin City, V for Vendetta are very good movies,Agreed. I agree about the last three. And while I like many things about Superman: The Movie, I still think that Superman is such a dull superhero that even if it's done well it'll still be deadly dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I liked the beginning a lot. But I lost interest after Superman arrives in Metropolis. It's quite similar with the score for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Thank god for Kryptonite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I liked the beginning a lot. But I lost interest after Superman arrives in Metropolis. It's quite similar with the score for me.Marian, you don't like "The Big Rescue", "The Flying Sequence", "Sonic Greeting", "Chasing Rockets" and "Turning Back the World"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 After Ottman's Superman Returns, I have really warmed to the second part of the Superman score. Yes it's a radical change from the first part of the score in style, but it goes with the film..At least it isn't generic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Come on... the score and the cinematography must at least qualify as special?Well yeah, the score is good, but I was referring to the film as a whole. It's just always seemed pretty corny and silly to me.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Marian, you don't like "The Big Rescue", "The Flying Sequence", "Sonic Greeting", "Chasing Rockets" and "Turning Back the World"?Flying Sequence is certainly nice. But I find most of the action music in the second half rather uninvolving. Certainly not bad, and well written, just... uninvolving. After reading so many great things about The Big Rescue before the expanded release came out, I was surprised that it seemed to be just more of the same.For me, nearly all the score's big standout cues (and some are probably career highlights) are in the first third or first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Isn't that the essence os what Superman is about?An American heroe, created in a time when honesty and purity were still thought to excist, even in the days of the Great Depression. When these were traits to strive too, not to alugh about.Superman is about Humanity at it's bravest and best, meaning it's always seen as unrealistic and corny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 He's one boring character. Never mind corny, I don't mind corny, but, there's nothing admirable about him. He's not human, he's been hotwired to do the right thing. Where's the interest in that? He doesn't seem to have much of a choice. He's like the polar opposite of Nosferatu. Although I don't feel as sorry for Superman as I do Nosferatu. Morlock- who's favorite thing about both Donner and Singer's movies is Lex Luthor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I don't find anything special with it either.Ray BarnsburyNor do I. I think that it is a good movie, but it is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 In Superman Returns he's boring, in fact the whole film is.In Superman The Movie he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 In Superman Returns he's boring, in fact the whole film is.In Superman The Movie he is not. It's the same character. Sure Chris Reeve IS Superman, but the character is basically the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 . . . Daredevil Director's Cut.You must be joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 He's much more interesting in Superman. It has to do with script, directing, editing, music etc etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Whatever. Same boring character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 'Fraid not, Mr. Morlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 No, they're not the same, but the character is still boring. Reeve did a tremendous job, but Superman is still mr. Invincible goody-two-shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I agree Superman doesn't translate well to present time, which was one of the reasons I didn't think Superman Returns would work.When Superman was conceived and even up to Donner's version, the world was a simple place and the lines between good and evil and what was right and wrong was clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 He's still a boring character. Even his imperfections are perfect. I am not interested in characters who are perfect. Morlock- who finds the history of the comic far more interesting than anything in the comic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Superman is not a perfect being. He may be close, but he is not perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 That is the essence of Superman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 How can you know what Superman's essence is when you have never read a comic book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Superman is not a perfect being. He may be close, but he is not perfect. What are his imperfections? The only one I can think of is him turning around the world for love, something he was told not to do by his father (with no negavite consequences- so even when he does something imperfect, it had no negative effect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I agree Superman doesn't translate well to present time, which was one of the reasons I didn't think Superman Returns would work.I think it translates just as well as it did 30, 50 or 70 years ago.When Superman was conceived and even up to Donner's version, the world was a simple place and the lines between good and evil and what was right and wrong was clear.That is too simplistic. Those two lines have never been really clear - especially since the last half of the century. The narrative of a comic book needs to simplify things, but they've been doing that for over a century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Superman is not a perfect being. He may be close, but he is not perfect. What are his imperfections? The only one I can think of is him turning around the world for love, something he was told not to do by his father (with no negavite consequences- so even when he does something imperfect, it had no negative effect).You are only judging the character by what you've seen in the various movies made about him. If you read the comics, you would know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I do know what you're talking about. We're here talking about movies. 'The Death of Superman' is one of my favorite comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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