Quintus 5,391 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 ...the later Death Star destruction celebration fanfare?This has to be old news, but I've only just noticed it. The celebration fanfare as the Death Star explodes sounds like a simplified version of the music that plays earlier when the 'crew' escape from the the Pit of Sarlacc. Am I wrong in this discovery?I only noticed because I was humming them both in work today... as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 There is a definate connection, but I'll leave any details to the more musically educated people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I always thought they were the same melody. As in, a "things are going to be okay now" theme or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I also thought they were the same,but there not is you listen carefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 They aren't indentical, but there's a melodic connection between them. Almost like they were written by the same composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Truth be told, I lost my ROTJ 2-CD set when I moved out seven years ago. It wasn't precisely my favorite score so I've been procrastinating buying it again ever since.Yeah, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 And to think I let you worship me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 You try to collect film music on a student budget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 If I had only known this when I spoke to you on the phone!You better watch yourself this summer, matey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 What, in my territory?You go ahead and try, who do you think the savages are going to line up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 With who their fear the most..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 The scrawny, pale and lost tourist.Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 procrastinatingSomeone learned a new word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 You describe yourself now, Ross.The problem is that you realize not that you are lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Steef and Ender are you boys done hosing the deck down with testosterone now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I am not gay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 317 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I basically asked if you guys were done having a pissing contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Homo-erotic overtones in a JW fan forum. Even John Williams himself wouldn't have thought it. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Oh forget it, I can't live with the lie anymore!Not after Joe came out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Yes, just keep telling yourself its only a bit of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 It's not fun, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 What is it then? Actually I don't want to know.Besides, its off topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 My life, is off-topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 You're digging a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 No I'm trying to be honest and forthright about myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 The melodies are similar but there is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1,394 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 That motif at the end of Sail Barge Assault is longer and more involved than the one that accompanies the second Death Star's destruction, but the latter is certainly derived from the former, or vice versa. They both share that iii v iv# ii i motif in the melody, using nearly identical rhythms. The orchestration is different, as is the time signature, but they're the same musical idea in different clothing.Wow, some of the ROTJ tracks have even worse sound quality than I thought. Headphones make the problem even worse--the muffling of the treble end is even more apparent. It's really hideous that this score would be released with such inferior quality, though I admit that I'm glad it was ROTJ rather than another Star Wars score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Cat 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 yeah but Dark side Beckons.wouldn't it be nice wif we could have a very clean version where we could hear the strings and the choir more distinctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Yeah, like if had ended up on the Musical Journey DVD. Everything on there sounds better than ever before.John- glad this thread was saved from the abyss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finalscore 10 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I always felt that the climax of both the Sail Barge Assault and the 1997 "Celebration" music were derived from the Luke & Leia theme, aka "Brother and Sister". To me this theme, while not use as extensively in ROTJ as some of the other themes, i,e, "Parade of the Ewoks", "Jabba The Hutt" or "The Emperor's Theme", appeared to be the basis of this music for these 2 bits of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 53 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Just so you all know, I attempted making this video with the alternate in the film, but sooo much editing had been done to the film that it didn't fit at all... I tried editing it and figuring out what exactly was changed but I grew too confused and boggled really that I gave up.As for the question at hand, I think it makes sense to use it in both instances. It's almost a celebratory theme in a way/explosion of bad gut theme heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1,394 Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 I always felt that the climax of both the Sail Barge Assault and the 1997 "Celebration" music were derived from the Luke & Leia theme, aka "Brother and Sister".I never thought about that, but you're absolutely right. I don't know whether or not that was intentional, but there's a definite melodic link there...how interesting!Yeah, like if had ended up on the Musical Journey DVD. Everything on there sounds better than ever before.Most definitely agreed. There's so much material I'd love to have heard on that DVD...although, I must say, the horns are mixed quite weirdly in the Imperial March. Too loud, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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