Quintus 5,391 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=20615I quite like the sound of this, Kasdan was a superb writer in his day with sharp and witty observations being a specialty of his. Sure, he's been quiet for a while now, but I'm interested to see how this film transpires.And if he gets a move on we might even get to hear what JW would have done with LOTR after all Yes I know COTT (better get used to that abbrievation) is not at all like LOTR, but well... its all fantasy.Taking my mindless specuation a step further, if Williams did score it, would he possibly better Laurence Rosenthal's smashing musical romp of the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I'm interested in this if JW does the score, and the film could be good, I doubt it will be as good as the original. (What a cast!)It would be interesting to see how JW does, though I'm not sure that now he'd compose a score as fun and magical as Rosenthal's. But I'd be first in line to find out. Let's hope they don't bog down the film with tons of CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 Well of course CGI will be obviously vital for much of it, but hopefully they will go down the LOTR route of only using it when absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Oh joy another remake. Gone will be the beautiful hand crafted animation, replaced by tons of CGI.I believe Harryhausen wanted Williams for his version and John Barry was actually attached at one point, some of the early posters have his name on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,082 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 If he ends up directing it, JNH will be a strong contender - he's scored every Lawrence Kasdan directed movie since the early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 Oh joy another remake. Gone will be the beautiful hand crafted animation, replaced by tons of CGI.To quote a user comment on that Empire News link "It's not like they are taping over the original"And to be fair, COTT isn't exactly a much adored filmic masterpiece. There aren't millions of die-hard fans waiting in the wings ready to have their childhoods raped Yes the Stop-Motion animation was excellent, almost timeless and the music was great fun, but the film itself has an awkward B-movie feel about it. Actually, a lot of it is just plain crap - the stagey non-ethereal Gods sequences anyone? The wooden and emotionless lead?If it wasn't for Harryhausen the film would've died on its arse. Actually it did regardless, boxoffice-wise.That said, COTT will always be a a fun guilty pleasure. But If ever a rip-roaring classical story was ripe for a proper telling, this is it.Oh and and are you saying that (rose tinted glasses) Stop-Motion is actually superior to "beautiful hand crafted" CGI? Not all CGI heavy films look like Attack Of The Clones you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Yes I do prefer Harryhausen's Stop motion over most CGI, there's just something special about stop motion compared to computer effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 I agree about it being a certain kind of 'special', but audiences today (including me) expect a certain degree of realism. Not such a rude requirement.I can see where you're coming from, but its time to move on Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Lets not get our hopes too high.JW will not score thisRosenthal's score to the original was amazingThe new score will be MV with lots of "apocalyptic choir" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 If it wasn't for Harryhausen the film would've died on its arse. Actually it did regardless, boxoffice-wise.$41 million in US alone, from a $15 million budget is hardly a flop... especially for a film released on the same day as Raiders of the Lost Ark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 If it wasn't for Harryhausen the film would've died on its arse. Actually it did regardless, boxoffice-wise.$41 million in US alone, from a $15 million budget is hardly a flop... especially for a film released on the same day as Raiders of the Lost Ark!The film fell massively short of its expectations, thus making it the definition of a film flop. Take a look at the Top 10 for 1981:1 Raiders of the Lost Ark Par. $209,562,121 2 On Golden Pond Uni. $119,285,4323 Superman II WB $108,185,706 4 Arthur WB $95,461,682 701 5 Stripes Col. $85,297,0006 The Cannonball Run Fox $72,179,579 7 Chariots of Fire Col. $58,972,9048 For Your Eyes Only MGM $54,812,8029 The Four Seasons Uni. $50,427,64610 Time Bandits Emb $42,365,58111 Clash of the Titans MGM $41,092,328Source: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/...1981&p=.htmIts interesting to note that Raiders of the Lost Ark cost a 'mere' $18 million.$41 mil was a very large budget for a film back then. Not to mention the rule of thumb that a film has to make back THREE times it's budget just to breakeven.Consider the reasonable assumption that the producers of COTT alone expected their effects heavy film to make the Top 3 at least, and the film is easily deemed as a comparable flop. That much is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Lets not get our hopes too high. No, as Kasdan has not proven himself to be adept with anything not based in a realistic world (the alien movie was quite terrible). JW will not score this Of course not.Rosenthal's score to the original was amazing It was okay.The new score will be MV with lots of "apocalyptic choir" Not a chance. JNH will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I think Rosenthal's score is better than OK. The rest of the score doesn't quite live up to the main titles, but it's a very good fantasy score, and fits the film like a glove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 JW will not score this Of course not.Yeah, but its nice to dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Kasdan doesn't get along with Williams (or his way of working). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 How do we know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Yes...how do we know this? Kasdan's got nothing to complain about with JW's score for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 The answer is probably something really 'witty' and 'clever'. Based on an observation made by Steef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I don't remember the whole thing, I think Miguel can clear it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Share Posted April 16, 2007 I don't remember the whole thing, I think Miguel can clear it up.Hmm, it seems there is some tasty tit-bit facts I'm about to learn...Whatever the outcome, Williams had the last laugh. Kasdan always was a hack anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,638 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Oh joy another remake. Gone will be the beautiful hand crafted animation, replaced by tons of CGI.Sounds like someone's quite bitter.There's nothing wrong with CGI as long as it's in the hands of people who use it wisely. Crafting something on a computer screen doesn't require less imagination and talent than shaping models with your own hand. The only difference is that it can be done quicker, and there's the danger of overloading the film with it. Many directors need to become more sensible in this regard, but CGI itself is a great tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 The Medusa in Clash of the Titans is still probably the most scary monster to grace the big screen.Ray Harryhausen was a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Spielberg not directing=no Williams score. Just the way it seems to be nowadays.This could be a very good movie, if done right. If it's confirmed to be made it's on my "need to see" list. John- who hasn't seen the "original" in forever and ever, and needs to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Oh joy another remake. Gone will be the beautiful hand crafted animation, replaced by tons of CGI.Sounds like someone's quite bitter.No just tired of remakes.Kasdan doesn't get along with Williams (or his way of working).There was an interview with Kasdan and he mentioned that on The Accidental Tourist Williams basically spotted the film and went away for 8 weeks and then showed up to score the film. Apparently Kasdan didn't hear from Williams between the time he spotted and scored the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 no this isn't perfect JW material, sounds like shit. we don't need a remake of a crappy film to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 no this isn't perfect JW material, sounds like shit. we don't need a remake of a crappy film to begin with. Actually, if we're gonna have remakes, it should ONLY be of crappy films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 no, crappy films should be left to be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 But if there are to be remakes...they should be remaking the bad ones, rather than King Kong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 You know what would really be neat?If someone made an original movie worth seeing for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Well, they're not gonna fall into your lap. They're there if you look for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Clash of the Titans shouldn't be remade. But I guess it is an interesting idea, if done properly.How 'bout Howard Shore for the score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 "How 'bout _____* for the score?"*about a dozen fantastic film composers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Bruce Broughton would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Dennis McCarthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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