AI 0 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 What will it be? Can we expect the same from John T Williams as we have in the past?The cat's getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I'm expecting a very modern John Williams score, styllistically different then the other 3 scores, with emphasis more of atmosphere and rhytm then on leitmotifs.It will have The Raiders March though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I voted for "A bit of both" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 John Williams has never been really minimalistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI 0 Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 Can you please refer to him as Johnny T, John Towner, or John T Williams from now on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I'd rather drink an old persons urine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I voted for "A bit of both"As would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I'm thinking Prisoner of Azkaban. A real mix of everything he's done from 80's through to 2000 and beyond. I'm expecting nothing short of a masterful score, given the ample time he's had to think of ideas for the film, and the time he'll have to write the score once they have a cut.No Munich situations here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 last crusade was very 90's, i think.If IV is like it, i'm more than pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 last crusade was very 90's, i think.And yet released in 1989. Imagine that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Yet Manuel is not incorrect, in a very stupid way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I'm expecting it to sound like Williams current works, with the Raiders theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 last crusade was very 90's, i think.And yet released in 1989. Imagine that.I mean the 'sound' Mister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I highly doubt it will be closer to Geisha or Munich than the previous IJ scores. I expect a modern Williams score, yes, but one that harkens back to his adventure-style of scoring.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 It will be closer to the Prequels and his Potter score then Geisha and Munich, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Right, and those are hardly minimalistic.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 or bad. (...AOTC's fault was last time tinkering and SFX, and with hope this movie will not be like that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuneman_21 0 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 last crusade was very 90's, i think.If IV is like it, i'm more than pleased.Which touches on something I've always thought about JW's scores. I've always thought Last Crusade and Hook mark a distinct change in Williams writings. Sort of mile markers in his career.Am I right, isn't Last Crusade the last score JW did with Herb Spencer as his orchestrator?Can you please refer to him as Johnny T, John Towner, or John T Williams from now on?Ok, but then you have to refer to Stefan as Stefan the Cosman the First, Lord of the High Seas, Son of the 5th House and Keep of the Sacred Chalice of Reeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 It may be, but watch out, claiming Spencer's death had anything to do with the change of Williams style will get your ass kicked here, I know, I once brought it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Can you please refer to him as Johnny T, John Towner, or John T Williams from now on?May I ask why?I voted for "old Williams" even though I know it will likely be a bit of both. I expect this to be closer to The Last Crusade than Temple of Doom, which for all intensive purposes, is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I predict a Raiders calibre score, fused with Grease.I'd buy that for a dollar!On a sidenote, any word on whether the LSO will be recording IV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I'd buy that for a dollar!Speaking of something you can buy, perhaps you would be interested in this Internet auction I just found online. It's a bit more then a dollar, but very worth it, I think.On a sidenote, any word on whether the LSO will be recording IV?Don't hold your breath for it, this film is not being shot in England I think, and there's no tradition of recording with the LSI the way there was for the SW films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 OMG I want that Goldsmith collection sooooooooo bad.TGE - Frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Well it can be yours, if you really want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,034 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 I really don't know what "Johnny T" will do for this score, so I won't vote but honestly, I'd rather hear one of his old-style scores. I don't believe it's beyond his capacity...it sounds to me like he just got tired of writing the stuff he used to. Don't get me wrong...I like plenty of his new stuff a lot. "A lot" here having the meaning of "it's some of my favorite music." But if I had things my way, the score to IJ IV would be a close cousin of ROTLA. I like that score infinitely better than its two cousins--though they've both got astonishingly good moments--and it'd be nice to hear the music of Indiana Jones return to its roots. Without becoming a rehash, that is.Realistically, the experience will probably be quite a bit like listening to the prequel scores. Lots of references to the past scores--subtly and intelligently done, I hope--with plenty of new material that doesn't feel quite the same, but is still great fun. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Realistically, the experience will probably be quite a bit like listening to the prequel scores. Lots of references to the past scores--subtly and intelligently done, I hope--with plenty of new material that doesn't feel quite the same, but is still great fun. Fingers crossed.INdy movies do not call for that much thematic connection anyway.Just a hint when marion appears, and things like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,034 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Good point, Luke. See, the thing is, I keep making the subconscious and thoroughly illogical assumption that the Ark will be featured in this film, which would make no sense whatsoever. But my brain keeps yearning for new developments of the Ark theme, though I'm sure there'll be none of that.Really, it's the style of ROTLA's score that I'd love to hear reprised. It's swashbuckling and a little strange...but perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuneman_21 0 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Another interesting thought would be - and I'm really hoping for this - if they re-release the first three soundtracks, especially TOD since the bootleg I have of it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 the new feeble JW with minimal talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Oh ye of little faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Weren't the Temple of Doom masters lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Personally... I don't know what to think.We forget that Munich was really the last score he composed... He hasn't composed for film for over a year.What I'm trying to say is, if you look at Williams scores, you can see where new ideas begin and hear the evolution of his sound... Personally, I expect him to completely reinvent himself with this. A new 21 century score...War of the Worlds was certainly masterful... as was Memoirs... AI... Episode III definately had a lot of work and is another great 21cent. score... As far as where the sound will go, I really expect it to reinvent both his sound and the sound if IJ4, while still incorporating the motifs from the originals... I mean, it wouldn't be IJ without Raiders March... hehand not being minimalist... so I'm not gonna vote for either of those because neither fully compels me as an accurate answer...I really think John Williams will surprise us all... hasn't failed yet :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Good point, Luke. See, the thing is, I keep making the subconscious and thoroughly illogical assumption that the Ark will be featured in this film, which would make no sense whatsoever. But my brain keeps yearning for new developments of the Ark theme, though I'm sure there'll be none of that.Well Area 51 is said to make an appearance...Maybe indy is looking for something and founds tha ark and says 'so it was here'... with a nice statement of the ark theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Do we really need another statement of the Ark theme to play over a joke about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 No. We really don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,034 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Sorry...in and of itself, it's just so much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 The Ark joke worked for The Last Crusade, but it would just be out of place in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,034 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Yeah, it'd feel very been-there-done-that. Keep in mind, guys, I wasn't trying to say that I think the Ark theme should be used in the film or that it will be used in the film...only that it's a great theme that a part of me will always want more of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I certainly hope there will be nothing truly original in this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Well Area 51 is said to make an appearance...Please, no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Just a hint when marion appears, and things like that...Eh.I'd rather listen to Williams having fun with the new movie and his 17 years of experience since Last Crusade than being a slave of his own, past creations just because.I mean, it's just a logical position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Weren't the Temple of Doom masters lost?That's a very evil rumor that's been floating around for years, along with one that they've literally rotted to the point they're ruined. Neither has ever been confirmed, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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