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This is the rant thread. (Aren't most AOTC topics? 8O )

Hehehe :: insert Lucas-like laughter:: :)

What I want to know is why Lucas al of a sudden calls these Tatooine creatures "Tusken Raiders" instead of their original name, the Sand People.

Hector - who does not like the mess Lucas is doing

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Tusken Raiders sounds more intimidating.

Also, remember, A New Hope takes place after Attack of the Clones. Isn't possible that over the course of the years, political correctness arrived on Tatooine?

Uh, it's possible, right?

Or maybe they shed their war-like ways and settled down.

Or,

Ah, hell, Lucas thinks the Anakin and Padme's Theme is the first Love theme from the Star Wars saga. Despite all the money he's made, he doesn't have enough to pay for a continuity supervisor. (See: episode 4 of Clerks: The Animated Series for details.)

Bruckhorn, raving, or ranting, or prattling on. Hell, I'm a guy, I'm not supposed to be in touch with my feelings!

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"Tusken Raiders" sucks! It does sound more intimidating, but I don't like how it sounds...

Hector - who thinks Lucas did not invented the term "Tusken Raider"

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"Sand People" sounds too retarded to me. I prefer "Tusken Raiders". (And I thought those little hooded things with red, lit eyes were the "Sand People")

I'm sorry, Chris.

Dan - who will experience "hell" in 3½ weeks.

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Nope... those were Jawas. And according to Lucas in his ANH book, they smell very bad.

I too, prefer Tusken Raiders. They aren't made out of sand...

(Although Ani cut them down like they were made of snow. Get it? Hehe? Snowmen? Snow People?... hehehehe...)

-Chris, Yes... that bad pun is proof of just how needy of sleep that I am... :)

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HA HA!

That's right. They were called "Jawas". I had forgotten that.

Dan - who laughed because of the "Tusken Raiders'" cameo in Episode I

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The Sand People were always called Tusken Raiders (just not in the first film). This isn't something Lucas made up when writing the script for Episode II.

Bye,

Roald

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They are referred to as Tusken Raiders in both EpisodeI and Episode IV

:mrgreen:

-Jason

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I think that the term "Tusken Raiders" is fine, but I also think that Williams should put in a perverted version of Raiders March for them.

Just a thought.

~Conor

Perverted version?!?!? :wow:

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I always thought they were called both. Although Sand People reminds me of a comic book my brother has. I think it was called Sand People?!

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In the Radio Presentation I know Biggs tell Luke, "Your uncle could hold off a whole Tusken Raiding Pary with one blaster!" I can't seem to remember it in the actual movie, though.

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Names for things seem to come after.In ANH,Star Destroyers are called "Crusers",and the Death Star a "Space Station".In Esb,they never mention the name AT-AT.

K.M.

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Ok, I can't speak for the original version, but yesterday I watched the ANH special edition, and I'm pretty sure, the term "Tusken Raiders" was used.

-Chris

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Why does it matter what they're called? Everyone knows who is being referred too. But this is a rant thread, so I guess you have to whine about something. :music:

-Jason

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There might not be a line of dialogue that mentions the name "Tusken Raider" in ANH, but that name is mentioned many times throughout the script that the movie was based on.

In Phantom Menace, the Greg Proops pod race announcer says something like "Looks like a few Tusken Raiders have camped out on the canyon dune turn..."

As for "Death Star", isn't there a intercom in the rebel base on Yavin that goes "The death star is in range" or something like that?

-Jason

:music: 24, almost 9pm

Too bad there isn't a "now watching" icon to go with the "now playing" one

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As for "Death Star", isn't there a intercom in the rebel base on Yavin that goes "The death star is in range" or something like that?

Yes, you are correct.

~Harry

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Ok, I can't speak for the original version, but yesterday I watched the ANH special edition, and I'm pretty sure, the term "Tusken Raiders" was used.

-Chris

Where? I've seen this film many times, and I do not recall anything about "Tusken Raiders"

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Hector, the term "Tusken Raiders" happened to not make it to the final cut of ANH, but that name is all over the scipt for the movie. The script that George wrote and then updated from 1974-1977. The one he wrote by himself. Tusken Raider is his word, and the creatures have been known as Tusken Raiders since the beginning.

EXTERIOR: TATOOINE -- ROCK MESA -- DUNE SEA -- COASTLINE -- DAY.

       From high on a rock mesa, the tiny Landspeeder can be seen

       gliding across the desert floor. Suddenly in the foreground

       two weather-beaten Sandpeople shrouded in their grimy desert

       cloaks peer over the edge of the rock mesa. One of the

       marginally human creatures raises a long ominous laser rifle

       and points it at the speeder but the second creature grabs the

       gun before it can be fired.

          The Sandpeople, or Tusken Raiders as they're sometimes

       called, speak in a coarse barbaric language as they get into

       an animated argument. The second Tusken Raider seems to get in

       the final word and the nomads scurry over the rocky terrain.

EXTERIOR: TATOOINE -- ROCK MESA -- CANYON.

       The Tusken Raider approaches two large Banthas standing tied

       to a rock. The monstrous, bear-like creatures are as large as

       elephants, with huge red eyes, tremendous looped horns, and

       long, furry, dinosaur-like tails. The Tusken Raiders mount

       saddles strapped to the huge creatures' shaggy backs and ride

       off down the rugged bluff.

EXTERIOR: TATOOINE -- ROCK CANYON -- FLOOR.

       The speeder is parked on the floor of a massive canyon. Luke,

       with his long laser rifle slung over his shoulder, stands

       before little Artoo.

LUKE: Hey, whoa, just where do you think you're going?

          The little droid whistles a feeble reply, as Threepio poses

       menacingly behind the little runaway.

THREEPIO: Master Luke here is your rightful owner. We'll have no more

of this Obi-Wan Kenobi jibberish...and don't talk to me about your

mission, either. You're fortunate he doesn't blast you into a million

pieces right here.

LUKE: Well, come on. It's getting late. I only hope we can get back

before Uncle Owen really blows up.

THREEPIO: If you don't mind my saying so, sir, I think you should

deactivate the little fugitive until you've gotten him back to your

workshop.

LUKE: No, he's not going to try anything.

          Suddenly the little robot jumps to life with a mass of

       frantic whistles and screams.

LUKE: What's wrong with him now?

THREEPIO: Oh my...sir, he says there are several creatures approaching

from the southeast.

          Luke swings his rifle into position and looks to the south.

LUKE: Sandpeople! Or worst! Come on, let's have a look. Come on.

EXTERIOR: TATOOINE -- ROCK CANYON -- RIDGE -- DAY.

       Luke carefully makes his way to the top of a rock ridge and

       scans the canyon with his electrobinoculars. He spots the two

       riderless Banthas. Threepio struggles up behind the young

       adventurer.

LUKE: There are two Banthas down there but I don't see any...wait a

second, they're Sandpeople all right. I can see one of them now.

          Luke watches the distant Tusken Raider through his

       electrobinoculars. Suddenly something huge moves in front of

       his field of view. Before Luke or Threepio can react, a large,

       gruesome Tusken Raider looms over them. Threepio is startled

       and backs away, right off the side if the cliff. He can be

       heard for several moments as he clangs, bangs and rattles down

       the side of the mountain.

          The towering creature brings down his curved,

       double-pointed gaderffii -- the dreaded axe blade that has

       struck terror in the heart of the local settlers. But Luke

       manages to block the blow with his laser rifle, which is

       smashed to pieces. The terrified farm boy scrambles backward

       until he is forced to the edge of a deep crevice. The sinister

       Raider stands over him with his weapon raised and lets out a

       horrible shrieking laugh.

EXTERIOR: TATOOINE -- ROCK CANYON -- FLOOR -- DAY.

       Artoo forces himself into the shadows of a small alcove in the

       rocks as the vicious Sandpeople walk past carrying the inert

       Luke Skywalker, who is dropped in a heap before the speeder.

       The Sandpeople ransack the speeder, throwing parts and

       supplies in all directions. Suddenly they stop. Then

       everything is quiet for a few moments. A great howling moan is

       heard echoing throughout the canyon which sends the Sandpeople

       fleeing in terror.

          Artoo moves even tighter into the shadows as the slight

       swishing sound that frightened off the Sandpeople grows even

       closer, until a shabby old desert-rat-of-a-man appears and

       leans over Luke. His ancient leathery face, cracked and

       weathered by exotic climates is set off by dark, penetrating

       eyes and a scraggly white beard. Ben Kenobi squints his eyes

       as he scrutinizes the unconscious farm boy. Artoo makes a

       slight sound and Ben turns and looks right at him.

BEN: Hello there! Come here my little friend. Don't be afraid.

       Artoo waddles over to were Luke lies crumpled in a  

       heap and begins to whistle and beep his concern. Ben

       puts his hand on Luke's forehead and he begins to  

       come around.

BEN: Don't worry, he'll be all right.

LUKE: What happened?

BEN: Rest easy, son, you've had a busy day. You're fortunate you're

still in one piece.

LUKE: Ben? Ben Kenobi! Boy, am I glad to see you!  

BEN: The Jundland wastes are not to be traveled lightly. Tell me young

Luke, what brings you out this far?

LUKE: Oh, this little droid! I think he's searching for his former

master...I've never seen such devotion in a droid before...there

seems to be no stopping him. He claims to be the property of an Obi-

Wan Kenobi. Is he a relative of yours? Do you know who he's talking  

about?

       Ben ponders this for a moment, scratching his scruffy beard.

BEN: Obi-Wan Kenobi...Obi-Wan? Now thats a name I haven't heard in a  

long time...a long time.

LUKE: I think my uncle knew him. He said he was dead.

BEN: Oh, he's not dead, not...not yet.

LUKE: You know him!

BEN: Well of course, of course I know him. He's me! I haven't gone by

the name Obi-Wan since oh, before you were born.

LUKE: Then the droid does belong to you.

BEN: Don't seem to remember ever owning a droid. Very interesting...

       He suddenly looks up at the overhanging cliffs.

BEN: I think we better get indoors. The Sandpeople are easily startled

but they will soon be back and in greater numbers.

-Jason

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Mmm, very interesting. You know, I've never been really interested in reading the novels, but I think I'll might. I never cared much for the countless novels that there are, from either Star Wars or Star Trek. I sort of said to myself, "I'm gonna read 'Shadows of the Empire'" to see what all the buzz was all about, so I had to read the book, and bought McNeely's score... but I'll guess I might read these novels.

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The name "Palpatine" did not occur in the original trilogy, either in the scripts or the final cuts of the movie. It only appeared in the novelization of ANH.

"Bail Organa" was never mentioned in the movie (Episode II), but his character is called that in the script. I remember thinking it was dumb that they never mentioned who Jimmy Smits was in the movie anywhere, as all the non-star wars geeks who see the movie will have no idea what Jimmy Smits is doing in the movie.

Come to think of it, I don't think "Mace" is ever mentioned in the movies either, only "Master Windu".

-Jason

:mrgreen: 1941 (complete)

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Nope... those were Jawas.  And according to Lucas in his ANH book, they smell very bad.

If you're referring to the novelization, that was ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster. And it was called, simply, "Star Wars."

Yes, I remember the Tusken Raiders from back in the '70s; and of course any self-respecting "Star Wars" fan knew the name of Palpatine, as well.

Figo, who insists the Tusken Raiders' cameo in TPM will lose its humor once the films are viewed in Lucas' revised sequence.

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Huh? THE PHANTOM MENACE, you numbnut. I'm referring to the pod race. After two decades in the public consciousness, it was an uncharacteristically witty decision on Lucas' part to have the Tusken Raiders make another appearance, taking potshots at the contestants. It was SUPPOSED to be humorous, but if you didn't remember the Sandpeople from "Star Wars," you wouldn't get the joke. It would merely be a bunch of space-Arabs with rifles, not funny -- nor relevant -- in the least.

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I think that the term "Tusken Raiders" is fine, but I also think that Williams should put in a perverted version of Raiders March for them.

Just a thought.

~Conor

Perverted version?!?!? :wow:

By perverted, I mean messed up or screwed up. Not sexual. I learned about that term (in the former context) by an interview of Hans Zimmer for Hannibal. Doesn anyone remeber that really messed up waltz? It's based on the Blue Danube.

~Conor

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