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What exactly did William Ross do in Harry Potter the Chamber of Secrets


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1 hour ago, Skelly said:

If we go by Hellgi's words, that was Ross. That little melody has always felt to me like someone trying very hard to imitate Williams's special "sound", but almost too hard. Not that it isn't wonderful, but that's always the impression I've gotten.

 

 no it doesn;t sound like that. That's Williams for sure

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God, we're going in circles, people, as usual!

 

Someone claims bits from the score definitely do not sound like Williams, another claims it all sounds like pure Williams, then another says it doesn't, then another says it does for sure...

 

Let's just give up... It's hopeless. Hopeless!

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Are we still trying to unravel this enigma wrapped inside a riddle? Let it go folks! Let it go!

 

 

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  • 2 years later...

Maybe if someone out there can get his hands on this, the liner notes might answer the question.

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/harry-potter-the-john-williams-soundtrack-collection-limited-edition-7-cd-box-set/

 

Sold out, though, so it would involve a hunt on Ebay most likely.

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42 minutes ago, DirectedByBrian said:

Maybe if someone out there can get his hands on this, the liner notes might answer the question.

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/harry-potter-the-john-williams-soundtrack-collection-limited-edition-7-cd-box-set/

 

Sold out, though, so it would involve a hunt on Ebay most likely.

 

Pretty much everyone here has that set. It's one of the top threads. In fact Jay worked on it.

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51 minutes ago, Marcus said:

The situation is roughly this:

All the new music is Williams.

All the old music repurposed from HP1 is Williams, but adapted (to fit the film) by William Ross. 

Wrong.

Ross composed all of it; Williams made the tea.

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8 hours ago, Marcus said:

The situation is roughly this:

All the new music is Williams.

All the old music repurposed from HP1 is Williams, but adapted (to fit the film) by William Ross. 

 

Well yes, but there are several passages that could be said to "adapt" themes from HP1, but nonetheless are significantly new variations that I would consider newly composed material, most notably the awesome fanfares at the end of "Reunion of Friends":

 

 

The big question, in my view, is whether passages like that are JW. ("Hellgi" claimed this one was Ross's doing, but King Mark and I are skeptical.)

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8 minutes ago, Will said:

The big question, in my view, is whether passages like that are JW. ("Hellgi" claimed this one was Ross's doing, but King Mark and I are skeptical.)

Of course this is Williams. A producer who pays Williams for the job wants Williams music to be heard in the movie and hence cuts down the role of the "nobody" to technical tasks that are not remotely able to affect the style of the score.

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Just wondering, why are people obsessing over Ross while no one seems to mind the fact that Star of Bethlehem was orchestrated and arranged by Courage and Neufeld? Or did JW still determine all the notes? (I still do not understand anything about orchestrating.)

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More importantly, why is no one talking about the cues Williams wrote for Solo? (Or did I miss this discussion somewhere?) I thought his contribution was simply ‘Adventures of Han’ and nothing else (apart from the original themes that were reused), but he apparently did 6 actual cues. Were parts of these used by Powell? Just dropped entirely?

 

About 9:30 into this interview with John Powell:

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He did about six cues.

 

 

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On 7/29/2019 at 12:26 AM, bollemanneke said:

Just wondering, why are people obsessing over Ross while no one seems to mind the fact that Star of Bethlehem was orchestrated and arranged by Courage and Neufeld? Or did JW still determine all the notes? (I still do not understand anything about orchestrating.)

 

Adapting implies somewhat more creative freedom than arranging/orchestrating.

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