BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 You know what makes this world a boring place? 30 polls, 1 of which has a remotely engaging discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Sabrina and Jane Eyre should really be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Definitely Jane Eyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 44 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Han Solo and the Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Sabrina and Jane Eyre should really be there.I forgot about Sabrina...is any of the three themes more of a love theme in the film than the others? Also, some have argued before that Monica's theme from A.I. is a love theme, and no one's mentioned The Patriot either (the end credits' fiddle rendition of the love theme is a highlight of the score).Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Sabrina and Jane Eyre should really be there.I forgot about Sabrina...is any of the three themes more of a love theme in the film than the others? Also, some have argued before that Monica's theme from A.I. is a love theme, and no one's mentioned The Patriot either (the end credits' fiddle rendition of the love theme is a highlight of the score).Ray BarnsburyMonica's Theme is a love theme, but not a romantic type. It a mother-son relation, and when I said love theme I meant between a man and a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 ...and no one's mentioned The Patriot either (the end credits' fiddle rendition of the love theme is a highlight of the score).I was going to but didn't want the thread to turn into another "50 reasons why The Patriot sucks" one. Definately a worthy theme, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 No, it's a nice theme. I like The Patriot score and the movie is not that bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Monica's Theme is a love theme, but not a romantic type. It a mother-son relation, and when I said love theme I meant between a man and a woman.So if Williams had scored Brokeback Mountain, that still wouldn't have been a love theme?By the way, I like Always best. The one from Superman is awesome and represents the larger-than-life love in the film very well, but a bit too "big" for me to consider a reprsentation of the feeling itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted August 20, 2007 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 Monica's Theme is a love theme, but not a romantic type. It a mother-son relation, and when I said love theme I meant between a man and a woman.So if Williams had scored Brokeback Mountain, that still wouldn't have been a love theme?By the way, I like Always best. The one from Superman is awesome and represents the larger-than-life love in the film very well, but a bit too "big" for me to consider a reprsentation of the feeling itself.Let me rephrase that--It must be a romantic theme, not necisarily between a man and a woman. So yes, Brokeback Mountain would count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Stop being so cryptic, Neil!Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Luke and Leia Also...What about 'ET and me'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I suppose it would make sense to distinguish "love" themes from "romance" themes.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I believe Williams himself has marked E.T. and Me as something of a love theme (or at least music for a loving relationship - something along those lines). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I believe Williams himself has marked E.T. and Me as something of a love theme (or at least music for a loving relationship - something along those lines).Yes, I think you're right. Similar to the way Goldsmith saw The Enterprise as a love theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I believe Williams himself has marked E.T. and Me as something of a love theme (or at least music for a loving relationship - something along those lines).Yes, I think you're right. Similar to the way Goldsmith saw The Enterprise as a love theme.... Let's just confine the definition to romantic love for this thread. (And, yes, Leia's theme is romantic because Lucas hadn't pulled the brother/sister twist out of his ass yet for the first two films. Did you know there may have been a deleted scene in The Empire Strikes Back in which Luke and Leia kissed passionately? There's a still photo that attests to this.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 I believe Williams himself has marked E.T. and Me as something of a love theme (or at least music for a loving relationship - something along those lines).Yes, I think you're right. Similar to the way Goldsmith saw The Enterprise as a love theme.... Let's just confine the definition to romantic love for this thread. (And, yes, Leia's theme is romantic because Lucas hadn't pulled the brother/sister twist out of his ass yet for the first two films. Did you know there may have been a deleted scene in The Empire Strikes Back in which Luke and Leia kissed passionately? There's a still photo that attests to this.)How do you know the photo wasn't taken when the cameras weren't rolling, and was really between Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher rather than Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Yeah Cerrabuck, good job with the thievery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I believe Williams himself has marked E.T. and Me as something of a love theme (or at least music for a loving relationship - something along those lines).Yes, I think you're right. Similar to the way Goldsmith saw The Enterprise as a love theme.... Let's just confine the definition to romantic love for this thread. (And, yes, Leia's theme is romantic because Lucas hadn't pulled the brother/sister twist out of his ass yet for the first two films. Did you know there may have been a deleted scene in The Empire Strikes Back in which Luke and Leia kissed passionately? There's a still photo that attests to this.)Well there was a scene in the film where they did kiss.The photo in question looks like a publicity shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I believe Williams himself has marked E.T. and Me as something of a love theme (or at least music for a loving relationship - something along those lines).Yes, I think you're right. Similar to the way Goldsmith saw The Enterprise as a love theme.... Let's just confine the definition to romantic love for this thread.Oh, you're no fun anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Anymore? Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Rough. Here's the image un-leeched: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 The photo in question looks like a publicity shot.Yeah, for Raiders, there was a widley popularized shot of Indy and Marion about to kiss, a shot that was never actually used in the film (it's on the back-cover of the box DVD set) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Yeah, for Raiders, there was a widley popularized shot of Indy and Marion about to kiss, a shot that was never actually used in the film (it's on the back-cover of the box DVD set)And on the back of the original album.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 That's beside the point. Bottom line: if Lucas approved of the photo displayed above, whatever its function, he did not intend for Luke and Leia to be siblings during the production of The Empire Strikes Back.Anyway... the love theme from The Missouri Breaks is nice. One of Williams's most sentimental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 That's beside the point. Bottom line: if Lucas approved of the photo displayed above, whatever its function, he did not intend for Luke and Leia to be siblings during the production of The Empire Strikes Back.All of his original storylines for the original Star Wars trilogy were about 2 twins and their father...either this shot was meant to play the audiences on, and make them think Luke and Leia were destined for each other...or it was a real love between Hamill and Fisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 the Love theme from Superman is his greatest single track ever, EVER.Yes. It starts out softly, builds to a powerful crescendo, and then dies quietly.Like love itself.Excellent.Now, what about the greatest love theme, by any composer for film, EVER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 That's beside the point. Bottom line: if Lucas approved of the photo displayed above, whatever its function, he did not intend for Luke and Leia to be siblings during the production of The Empire Strikes Back.All of his original storylines for the original Star Wars trilogy were about 2 twins and their father...either this shot was meant to play the audiences on, and make them think Luke and Leia were destined for each other...or it was a real love between Hamill and Fisher.He may have drawn the pathetic brother/sister twist from his early ideas, but it doesn't mean he always intended to. And, no, that's not Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher hooking up. Why would they have posed so professionally, and who would have taken the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I believe Williams himself has marked E.T. and Me as something of a love theme (or at least music for a loving relationship - something along those lines).Yes, I think you're right. Similar to the way Goldsmith saw The Enterprise as a love theme.... Let's just confine the definition to romantic love for this thread. (And, yes, Leia's theme is romantic because Lucas hadn't pulled the brother/sister twist out of his ass yet for the first two films. Did you know there may have been a deleted scene in The Empire Strikes Back in which Luke and Leia kissed passionately? There's a still photo that attests to this.)How do you know the photo wasn't taken when the cameras weren't rolling, and was really between Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher rather than Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia?Because Carrie Fisher was too busy doing lines of coke and getting busy with Harrison Ford to concern herself with little Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Yeah, and that path of irresponsible self-destruction led her to Smallville. There's a lesson for us all to learn in her tale.Funny, I don't see how Luke & Leia kissing might have fit in the final Empire Strikes Back shooting script. It does feel out of character for them both, unless maybe there was some kind of plot about Leia being torn between the two men? Which lame enough for me to come up with at 8.45 am, so I think there must be some other reason. Misleading the press about the films' plot, given Lucas' anal retentivess for spoiler-protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 13 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 the Love theme from Superman is his greatest single track ever, EVER.Yes. It starts out softly, builds to a powerful crescendo, and then dies quietly.Like love itself.Excellent.Now, what about the greatest love theme, by any composer for film, EVER?Probably still the same - "Superman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Monica's Theme is a love theme, but not a romantic type. It a mother-son relation, and when I said love theme I meant between a man and a woman.So if Williams had scored Brokeback Mountain, that still wouldn't have been a love theme?Forget the love themes.The important thing is williams would have another oscar in his list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Nah, the Oscar would have gone to Tan Dun's inspiring ethnical score for Memoirs of a Geisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yeah, and that path of irresponsible self-destruction led her to Smallville. There's a lesson for us all to learn in her tale.Funny, I don't see how Luke & Leia kissing might have fit in the final Empire Strikes Back shooting script. It does feel out of character for them both, unless maybe there was some kind of plot about Leia being torn between the two men? Which lame enough for me to come up with at 8.45 am, so I think there must be some other reason. Misleading the press about the films' plot, given Lucas' anal retentivess for spoiler-protection?Well, they did kiss in one scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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