ChuckM 1 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What is the most patriotic sounding piece of film music you have heard? (sorry non-Americans)For me, it would be "An American Symphony" from Mr. Holland's Opus by Michael Kamen. Next would be "End Credits" from Independence Day by David Arnold. (And yes, I do know that Arnold is British.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Patriot from The Patriot.March From 1941.Medal Of Honor from Medal Of Honor.The Radar Train from Medal Of Honor, well I guess basically anything from any of the MoH scores.These aren't very patriotic, but more war-related. Hymn To The Fallen from Saving Private Ryan.Also, Adagio For Strings by Samuel Barber. Haunting yet beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 "Hymn to the Fallen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Patriot from The Patriot.How did I forget that one. The Patriot would definately be right up near the top for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Crimson Gump from Forrest Gump, even though it has nothing to do with patriotism.and BTW, is The Patriot worth seeing just for the score? As some of you may know, I rarley buy soundtracks unless I've seen the movie. I've heard the main theme on YouTube and I really liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Crimson Gump from Forrest Gump, even though it has nothing to do with patriotism.and BTW, is The Patriot worth seeing just for the score? As some of you may know, I rarley buy soundtracks unless I've seen the movie. I've heard the main theme on YouTube and I really liked it.Not only is the score excellent, the film was pretty good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Patriot is...not popular around these parts. The film even moreso than the score I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Crimson Gump from Forrest Gump, even though it has nothing to do with patriotism.and BTW, is The Patriot worth seeing just for the score? As some of you may know, I rarley buy soundtracks unless I've seen the movie. I've heard the main theme on YouTube and I really liked it.Not only is the score excellent, the film was pretty good too.Except the fact that Mel Gibson was in it, I presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 32 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What is the most patriotic sounding piece of film music you have heard? (sorry non-Americans)Why, is patriotism always about America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Except the fact that Mel Gibson was in it, I presume?I don't have a problem with Mel Gibson. He's a good actor, why should his personal life affect how I view him as an actor. Same goes for Tom Cruise, he's an excellent actor, he may be a little over-the-top in his personal life, but I don't care as long as he keeps making good films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 ok, fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 What's wrong with Mel Gibson? Sure he's said some things while he was drunk that he regretted later, but, well, he was drunk. That's what happens when people get drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Crimson Gump from Forrest Gump, even though it has nothing to do with patriotism.and BTW, is The Patriot worth seeing just for the score? As some of you may know, I rarley buy soundtracks unless I've seen the movie. I've heard the main theme on YouTube and I really liked it.Well, the action is good and its gorgeous to look at.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Yes, say what you will about the movie, it's certainly shot beautifully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What's wrong with Mel Gibson? Sure he's said some things while he was drunk that he regretted later, but, well, he was drunk. That's what happens when people get drunk.You're right. When he isn't drunk, he has enough sense not to preach his anti-semite mind. When he is, he says what he's thinking. But I'm willing to ignore this if the movie is worth seeing.Let's not get into religious predijuices here, though, I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed on the board. We'll just agree to disagree about our opinions on Mel Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What's wrong with Mel Gibson? Sure he's said some things while he was drunk that he regretted later, but, well, he was drunk. That's what happens when people get drunk.You're right. When he isn't drunk, he has enough sense not to preach his anti-semite mind. When he is, he says what he's thinking. But I'm willing to ignore this if the movie is worth seeing.It is worth seeing. He's a fantastic actor and film-maker. Braveheart is an excellent example of what he can do when directing, and Signs is one for his acting. The Passion Of The Christ was not as good as a film overall, but you gotta give credit to the mouth-dropping cinematography, should have won IMO. Apocalypto was stylish and entertaining, though not really quality film-making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Patton > ** = Everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 203 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I agree with Paton!I also always considered the 1941 March to be obnoxiously patriotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant 1,093 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Prologue from JFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I agree with Paton!I also always considered the 1941 March to be obnoxiously patriotic.I think that's just because of the movie. As Spielberg says in its liner notes: "It is so brazenly dramatic, so brimming with guts and glory, that if you hear the album before seeing the movie you'll probably wonder just how much comedy '1941' really has."I agree with him. The music is so patriotic and bold, and it is probably the funniest part of the movie (not that that's hard competition). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The main title/theme from Air Force One is a good one that hasn't been mentioned. Blatantly, wonderfully patriotic!Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Hunt for Red October is very patriotic for the USSR. As is Doctor Zhivago in some places. The Dish has some subtle Australian patriotism sprinkled here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas 1 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The march from "Throne Room and End Titles" in Star Wars sounds very "patriotic" - it has all the chauvinistic swagger of "Pomp and Circumstance" by Elgar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What is the most patriotic sounding piece of film music you have heard? (sorry non-Americans)Why, is patriotism always about America?Indeed...I'll go for Alexander Nevsky and Ivan the Terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0hawk 1 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Metal Gear Solid 3 - Main Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeNewGuy 0 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Patton all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What is the most patriotic sounding piece of film music you have heard? (sorry non-Americans)Why, is patriotism always about America?Its one of the few countries where patriotism is not related to fascism/comunism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Fascistic tendencies aside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Most patriotic sounding piece of film music?Ron Goodwin's is just tear inducing stuff if you're British So is the Colonel Bogey March (and the reason it was whistled in bridge on the river kwai) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 13 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What is the most patriotic sounding piece of film music you have heard? (sorry non-Americans)Why, is patriotism always about America?Its one of the few countries where patriotism is not related to fascism/comunism.I think you was rather thinking about nationalism/xenophobia than literally fascism/comunism, wasn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What is the most patriotic sounding piece of film music you have heard? (sorry non-Americans)Why, is patriotism always about America?Its one of the few countries where patriotism is not related to fascism/comunism.I think you was rather thinking about nationalism/xenophobia than literally fascism/comunism, wasn't you?i dont want to talk about politics but i just mean that in Spain, Italy, Germany, Portugal, and many other places which have had a dictatorship is not really good to feel patriotic, to fear of being labeled as pro-dictatorship. I think all the old URRS territories do not feel proud of their comunist background either.Arent all conservative dictatorship called fascism (even if the word was invented for the Italian one) and all progresist ones comunism (even if the word was invented by Russians) ?USA has never experienced a government like these (maybe except when they were part of the British Empire) that's why being patriotic does not have any negative connotations.Hope this explains what i wanted to express without breaking the politics law in the forums :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Arent all conservative dictatorship called fascism (even if the word was invented for the Italian one) and all progresist ones comunism (even if the word was invented by Russians) ?Not necessarily. Fascism doesn't automatically equate with conservatism, and communism doesn't equate with progress. Take Fahrenheit 451, for example, which to me appears to be a far left-wing and ultra politically correct society ruled by the state, but fascistically enforces draconian laws prohibiting books or reading material, with harsh penalties applied.If a state, nation or society has come to the point of being a police state, where opinions against the state or its actions have been suppressed and banished by any means, then that is fascist, regardless of softer words being applied such as "socialism". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 ".....and then they went back on topic and there was much rejoicing" :cool: (Jwfan:25:17) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Amen. I just wanted to make myself clear, not start a debate.I go for the patriot.And the Williams rendition of Star Spangled banner.And Medal of Honor main themes.And Hymn to the Fallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 What is the most patriotic sounding piece of film music you have heard? (sorry non-Americans)Why, is patriotism always about America?Indeed...I'll go for Alexander Nevsky and Ivan the Terrible. :cool:Hell Yeah!!!And Omaha Beach is as beautiful as patriotism can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 ".....and then they went back on topic and there was much rejoicing" (Jwfan:25:17)Well, last time it was me off-topic-ing someone else's thread, so I suppose this is what I get. :cool: lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 388 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The "Krakozhia National Anthem" is very patriotic to us airport-dwelling Krakozhians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnifex 5 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Arnold's Independence Day might be the first in the list. On the other hand concerning patriotism in Russia we have Badelt's K-19, especially the track "Home". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 292 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Men of the Yorktown March is probably my favorite patriotic Williams piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Born on the Fourth of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADigitalMan 0 Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 For me, it's either Elmer Bernstein's "The Great Escape" or John Barry's "Dances With Wolves." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 March from MidwayMarch from 1941Crimson Gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 353 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Mmmm quite a few:Delerue's French Revolution and selections from my personal favourite Joe Vs the Volcano (a perfect example of score superior to film!)Doyle's Hogwarts HymnBarry's The Living DaylightsMorricone's Legend of 1900Desplat's The QueenKamen's Band of Brothers, Mr Holland's Opus & HighlanderHorner's Enemy at the GatesArnold's Little Britain theme (a real gem!) & Independence Day, some parts of Godzilla tooKorngold's King's Row, Sea Hawk & Robin Hoodfor Williams, so many!JFK Main TitlesStar Wars Throne RoomThe River's Ancestral HomeBOTFJTemple of Doom british troops fanfareToy Planes Home & Hearth from EOTSThe PatriotSaving Private Ryanand so many more i'm sure i've inadvertently missed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 The midway march with 1941 march-like orchestration (from 'By Request') Is patriotic cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Most patriotic sounding piece of film music?Ron Goodwin's is just tear inducing stuff if you're British So is the Colonel Bogey March (and the reason it was whistled in bridge on the river kwai) You mentioned Ron Goodwin. You rock!Listen to Battle of Britain if you want some stirring patriotic music especially the Ace High March (main titles).Amen. I just wanted to make myself clear, not start a debate.I go for the patriot.And the Williams rendition of Star Spangled banner.And Medal of Honor main themes.And Hymn to the FallenI'm surprised the gun loving society of fanatical freedom lovers (ie Americans) haven't shouted out Goldsmith's version of TSSB from Poltergiest yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Amen. I just wanted to make myself clear, not start a debate.I go for the patriot.And the Williams rendition of Star Spangled banner.And Medal of Honor main themes.And Hymn to the FallenI'm surprised the gun loving society of fanatical freedom lovers (ie Americans) haven't shouted out Goldsmith's version of TSSB from Poltergiest yet.I am Spanish, not American....BTW TSSB rendition in poltergeist is the classic one. Why would people mention that performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADigitalMan 0 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I may be inviting an asswhooping here, but I find Kamen's score to Band of Brothers actually more moving than Williams' score for Saving Private Ryan. Though technically it's not a "film" score since BoB was a miniseries ... but there should be allowances in cases like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 385 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 The Men of the Yorktown March is probably my favorite patriotic Williams piece.Indeed! This has been a favorite of mine for very long; it is such a key theme to the development of Williams' mature melodic style.Absolutely GREAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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