Morlock 11 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I won't call you an idiot. At the moment at least, I am trying to get over the fact that, in your mind, the fact they make money means they're good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Well making money means that someone has like them. I'm fine with calling the lesser-composers untalented, but Hans Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams and John Powell are definitely talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 But aren't they all the same person??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Wait, where did Media Ventures enter into this discussion?They seem to perpetually follow some of our members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 @ HitchBut really, they are talented. The thing that's frustrating is the overusage of the MV/RC composing mold--the synthetic orchestras, emphasis on chords (particularly staccato quarter notes), power anthems, and electronic frills. It can be cool the first time or two, but the constant usage of it, and extending at least elements of it to genres where it is not appropos--or at the very least, doesn't complement the film as well as it could--is very frustrating. That's why Zimmer, Powell, and Gregson-Williams stand out, because they can and do branch out and do other things musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,153 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 If RC is so bad, why do they keep making money??I've been wondering the same thing about Microsoft for years.Oh right, they're actually talented in a way!Talented in marketing, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 If RC is so bad, why do they keep making money?? Oh right, they're actually talented in a way! If they were as bad most of you say, none of the composers should be able to get work. Call me an idiot, but that also means basically everyone in the film industry are idiots too.I think most of you forget that Steven Spielberg actually likes Hans Zimmer.Judging by what Hollywood considers to entertainment most people in today's film industry are idiots.And in case you haven't noticed Spielberg has lost some of his magic over the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Spielberg has lost zero magic IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Hogwash.Fine, the Force won't be with him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Some day, computers will be able to write music so well by themselves, we won't even need human composers anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 We've already reached that day. It's called Remote Control Productions, except the human uses the computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Oh, no. What I mean is that the human element won't even be required. The computers will be that advanced! Remote Control is Skynet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Spielberg has zero magic IMO.I wouldn't go that far, but his current output is a pale comparison to what he once did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Goodbye then!BYE BYEwhaaa, whaaaa.Thanks for your kind words, guys. Knew I could count on you.have fun at the MV website, I hear they are trying to add one and one to get two, after several weeks of trying they've almost solved it.That's a problem I doubt they'll ever solve, and a website I doubt I'll ever go near.See ya.- Datameister, signing out.Nice going, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Boy, the trailer to this movie looks sweeeeeeeeet... *drools* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Goodbye then!BYE BYEwhaaa, whaaaa.Thanks for your kind words, guys. Knew I could count on you.have fun at the MV website, I hear they are trying to add one and one to get two, after several weeks of trying they've almost solved it.That's a problem I doubt they'll ever solve, and a website I doubt I'll ever go near.See ya.- Datameister, signing out.Nice going, guys. don't shake your head at me or Stefan, if the kid doesn't have what it takes to stick here, then thats his problem, not ours.No one asked him to leave, I asked him to come back, now if I were wanting someone to leave it would be...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 If he wants to get, let him go.No one should stay here if this is not the right place for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Don't slam the door on your way out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 The poster looks awesome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Tell that to James Cameron Don't ask Ridley Scott by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Wrinkly Scott hated it too? Bitter old farts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Sir Wrinkly Ridley Scott to you mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 And King James of the House of Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 From Cincinatti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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