Popular Post Gojira 17 Posted March 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2023 Dragonslayer 4K 1977, Naïve Old Fart and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I am insanely jealous. Verminthrax Pejorative is going to look stunning. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Drax got a new account? Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Drax got a new account? No, there is another (Godzilla worshipper)! Gojira 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Gojira said: Dragonslayer 4K I would have bought this, but I hate it when they update visual effects and don't include original audio on top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,085 Posted March 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2023 I got mine. Am I the only person who really doesn't see the appeal of Steelbooks? They almost always come with some kind of dent or impression that is just enough to annoy me. I'm always afraid I'll scratch them, and opening them is usually anticlimactic. I like the hard box cases with booklets and lobby cards and such. Jurassic Shark, enderdrag64 and 1977 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, filmmusic said: I would have bought this, but I hate it when they update visual effects and don't include original audio on top! Wha'???!!! The effects have been updated???!!! Why???!!! They're perfect, just as they are!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,376 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Wha'???!!! The effects have been updated???!!! Why???!!! They're perfect, just as they are!!! I could find no indication that this was the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Tallguy said: I could find no indication that this was the case! One such instance is here. Notice that the dragon doesn't look like a cutout figure anymore, and they added a reflection in the water too. Small updates, sure, but it isn't the original thing as shown in the theaters. Also, I've read in a private site: "some sound effects are changed and for worse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,376 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Well, darn. Naïve Old Fart and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 hours ago, filmmusic said: I would have bought this, but I hate it when they update visual effects They did? EDIT: oh, I see now. Oh well, removing matte lines I can handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I don't know this movie, but looking at that screenshot I don't see why anyone would prefer the bottom image over the top image 1977 and Gojira 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jay said: I don't know this movie, but looking at that screenshot I don't see why anyone would prefer the bottom image over the top image Well, to me it's not a matter of preference but what it's original. I want every movie to look like it was released in theaters with all its limitations of its era. Tallguy and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Even if the movie has baked in debris on the negative e.g. the older Disney animated features? filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Debris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,085 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, filmmusic said: One such instance is here. Notice that the dragon doesn't look like a cutout figure anymore, and they added a reflection in the water too. Small updates, sure, but it isn't the original thing as shown in the theaters. Also, I've read in a private site: "some sound effects are changed and for worse". Wow. They exercised their Vermithrax Prerogative. Tallguy and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,085 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 9 hours ago, filmmusic said: I would have bought this, but I hate it when they update visual effects and don't include original audio on top! @filmmusic are you able to say where this information came from? Not doubting you, just surprised it hasn’t hit the Bluray.com forums. (I haven’t checked it myself yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 What do you mean? He literally uploaded a picture of the change above. Are you suggested the picture was faked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,085 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 No, not at all. 9 hours ago, filmmusic said: I would have bought this, but I hate it when they update visual effects and don't include original audio on top! I’m assuming filmmusic got the pic from somewhere else since he said he didn’t buy it. 4 hours ago, filmmusic said: Also, I've read in a private site: "some sound effects are changed and for worse". Which makes me think he think the picture came from a private site as well. I’m just wondering if he’s able to share where the info came from since stuff like that is usually blowing up the bluray.com forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Ah I getcha now Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,085 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I confirmed it with my own copy and a digital download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Andy said: I’m just wondering if he’s able to share where the info came from since stuff like that is usually blowing up the bluray.com forums. The comparison of the 4K vs DVD, came from the bluray.com forum. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=20969045&postcount=419 I took the 4K photo and compared it with the HD digital download. As for the audio, I haven't compared it myself, but it would be only natural they changed it since the 4k includes a Dolby atmos audio and not the original 6 track audio from the 70mm prints. But people who know better than me, trust me, said it is changed. Maybe it is a matter of time until they discover this at bluray.com. A bit of time passed until they realized the audio in the new Rocky 4k set is not the original too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Debris? You know, when bits of dirt, hairs, etc. get stuck between the different layers. Same things happens with optical printing. @filmmusicnot sure what the zoinks emoji is about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: You know, when bits of dirt, hairs, etc. get stuck between the different layers. Same things happens with optical printing. @filmmusicnot sure what the zoinks emoji is about? That's easily fixed with digital restoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 4 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: You know, when bits of dirt, hairs, etc. get stuck between the different layers. Same things happens with optical printing. @filmmusicnot sure what the zoinks emoji is about? Oh, I see. I prefer this debris than the complete degraining and recoloring of these animation classics. I can't stand watching the Disney animation films from blu-rays, and I watch them either from DVDs (pre-"restoration"), or 35mm scans. Here's an example of recoloring from Alice in Wonderland. Left: 35mm, Right: blu-ray 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Wasn’t the word when Batman 4K was released, that the transfer was bad? I have it on BD and didn’t upgrade for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, rough cut said: Wasn’t the word when Batman 4K was released, that the transfer was bad? I have it on BD and didn’t upgrade for that reason. yeah, me too. It has updated audio FX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, filmmusic said: Here's an example of recoloring from Alice in Wonderland. Left: 35mm, Right: blu-ray Wow, that's some seriously revisionist colour timing. It's understandable that you find it objectionable, although I still can't bear the sight of unrestored films. I've always been intrigued by the possibility of user adjustments to video via curves to correct these kinds of things (see the FOTR: EE recoloring tweak that was posted around the time the the EEs were released on Blu-ray). Has Dragonslayer been released digitally on iTunes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,085 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, rough cut said: Wasn’t the word when Batman 4K was released, that the transfer was bad? I have it on BD and didn’t upgrade for that reason. Yes, the complaint is that it trends towards teal. I'm not hyper sensitive to it, but the sound effect replacement got people upset too. It's odd that Dragonslayer doesn't mention the changes or preserve the original shots in some way. The film is best remembered for its pioneering go motion animation and effects. So for say future film scholars or enthusiasts who want to understand why, they will see an inaccurate representation. It's the same old argument. I like the change, and think it looks great. The cave scene is so blown out and bright on the old version, so the 4K really looks appropriately shadowy. It just would be nice to have the original shots preserved. Brónach and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,376 Posted March 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2023 50 minutes ago, Andy said: It just would be nice to have the original shots preserved. Why don't people get this? Are we really that weird for thinking this? Brónach, Andy and Naïve Old Fart 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: Why don't people get this? Are we really that weird for thinking this? No we are not weird. We are the ones shouting out "But...he's naked!". It's not weird to want a decent, and faithful transfer of a film. 3 hours ago, filmmusic said: It has updated audio FX. The original sound of BATMAN was terrible, and Blu Ray hasn't improved it, one bit. I'd love to hear the new mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: The original sound of BATMAN was terrible, and Blu Ray hasn't improved it, one bit. I'd love to hear the new mix. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,085 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Tallguy said: Why don't people get this? Are we really that weird for thinking this? And it's not like this idea of preserving original cuts is new. We've been at this for decades now. Almost everybody is happy when the choice is there. For audio especially, there's no excuse, since it takes up relatively little disc space to add another track. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,376 Posted March 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2023 Someone famous film maker should argue passionately in front of congress about film preservation. George Lucas, maybe? Andy, Naïve Old Fart and Brónach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 ...oh, sorry. You're not joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,085 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I am a BIG fan of George Romero, I was excited to finally pick up Martin in high definition. Looks like a really juicy edition. Sadly an early 3 hour cut recently sold on eBay, and Second Sight tried to make a deal, but it is not included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Haven't seen Taxi Driver since the late 1990s - and I've never watched True Detective at all. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 "Der Pate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: "Der Pate" That really is the German word for "godfather". I'm more surprised that they never gave Taxi Driver a German title, not even back in 1976 as far as I know. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 You mean "Taxifahrer"? "Wahrer Detiktiv", anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Is that Zum really necessary for the "50. Jubiläum"? It feels so weird to me, is that just how you guys do it in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,173 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Holko said: Is that Zum really necessary for the "50. Jubiläum"? It feels so weird to me, is that just how you guys do it in general? Nah. Although I guess if you wanted to be perfectly correct, "50th Anniversary" would need an "Edition" at the end (which it usually has), or "Ausgabe" in German. In a way, "Zum" is a shorter, if somewhat highbrow, alternative. Not that brevity is usually a concern in these cases… Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: That really is the German word for "godfather". I'm more surprised that they never gave Taxi Driver a German title, not even back in 1976 as far as I know. They figured most Germans would understand the word 'Taxi'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 955 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 On 11/04/2023 at 1:20 PM, Marian Schedenig said: Haven't seen Taxi Driver since the late 1990s - and I've never watched True Detective at all. Saw this for the first time last year. Great score, but I gotta say, it didn't really do much for me. Nor have any of the other Scorsese films I've seen, except the Irishman. Just bought the three disc set for Titanic. Yes, DVD, because what is life without whimsy. On 23/03/2023 at 4:22 AM, Gojira said: Dragonslayer 4K That cover is dope as hell 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Love the film and its soundtrack by Yared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 I hope Gremlins 2 is not announced for a 4K, now that I bought it, and not cheap at that, since it's OOP. Andy and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Nice! I take it the Supes is the previous issue with the proper 6 channel audio? Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Nice! I take it the Supes is the previous issue with the proper 6 channel audio? I hope it is. It's the UK release, which should have the proper audio, since there is no standalone release of the new blu-ray where they removed it. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Is it a used copy? If yes, and it’s from a couple of years ago, chances are good it’s still on there. From what I understand, the audio track has also been removed from the standalone editions so the removal is not just limited to the newly released box set. Jim Bowers @ Capedwonder breaks it down in this post here: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrHIAqRvSJC/?igshid=ZWQyN2ExYTkwZQ== 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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