indy4 152 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 If you could have any composer score a movie that they didn't, who would it be? It can really be anything - they could score a TV series, a TV theme, a movie, a movie series, or even a book. Let's try and leave JW scoring Harry Potter out of this (I think everyone on this board wants this). I'll begin with these:1. I love the music for LOTR trilogy, and if I could pick, I would have Shore do it over JW. However, I would love to hear JW's take on the trilogy, it would be amazing.2. Same goes for POTC. I love Zimmer's work on it, and I would pick him over Williams for that specific trilogy. However, I would like to hear JW's take on it.3. I wish JW scored JG's PotA.4. I wish JW scored the Spy Kids movies.5. It would be nice to see JW score some sort of Disney/animated movie.6. I'd like to hear JW score The Great Train Robbery (not the movie, the book). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I would love to hear JW score all the sequels to all his movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 1. I love the music for LOTR trilogy, and if I could pick, I would have Shore do it over JW. However, I would love to hear JW's take on the trilogy, it would be amazing.Or even more: Poledouris2. Same goes for POTC. I love Zimmer's work on it, and I would pick him over Williams for that specific trilogy. However, I would like to hear JW's take on it.Anyone but Zimmer. Well, the third one turned our quite good.3. I wish JW scored JG's PotA.Off with his head!6. I'd like to hear JW score The Great Train Robbery (not the movie, the book).And what would be the significant difference between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 633 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 - John Williams for Harry Potter 4-6 (oh wait; I was not allows to post that!)- Basil Poledouris for The Lord of the Rings trilogy (now THERE's a good idea)- Basil Poledouris for Cutthroat Island or the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy (he is excellent at writing orchestral music and he loves sailing; that would qualify him for the job in my eyes)- Alan Silvestri for the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy (truly that would be a dream come true; that guy knows what he's doing!)- Jerry Goldsmith scores for Star Trek II, III, IV, VI and VII (just to get some consistency)- David Arnold for The Patriot and The Day After Tomorrow (he could write some good stuff for this like STargate, Independence Day and Godzilla) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I wish Danny Elfman would do some adapting or even compose something original for Sweeney Todd.I wish John Williams would do at least 1 animated film and 1 video game in his lifetime. Bee Movie and Medal Of Honor are his missed opportunities I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 4. I wish JW scored the Spy Kids movies.How exactly is a horrible movie like Spy Kids worth Williams's time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Yeah, seriously. Spy Kids was just Robert Rodriguez experimenting with digital to prepare for Sin City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 4. I wish JW scored the Spy Kids movies.How exactly is a horrible movie like Spy Kids worth Williams's time?I agree it's a horrible movie, but there is plenty of area for a good score there. A spy theme (which I don't think I've ever heard JW do), some comedy stuff, etc...He pulled of a great score for 1941, why not Spy Kids?Also, I would like to hear JW try a Burton film. When it comes to those, I know Elfman has it down good, but still, just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear how JW would approach such a project. Overall though, Elfman rules the Burton territory.I'd also love to hear JW score a Narnia film. He hasn't really done any of those "big epic films" that were takeoffs on LOTR, it might be nice. Gregson-Williams had a nice score, but it wasn't anything special, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Spy Kids is a lovely film, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 Oh, and JW should score a Mission Impossible film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 Why not?He should have done 2, at least. After that trash Zimmer gave us (yes, and I'm a Zimmer fan!), I would welcome anybody, especially the maestro himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Williams doesn't do glitzy techno trhillers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 James Horner to score the Spielberg Lincoln project. You know...at least get someone who can make interesting slow brooding music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 5. It would be nice to see JW score some sort of Disney/animated movie.That's the only suggestion that even sort of makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 633 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I'd also love to hear JW score a Narnia film. He hasn't really done any of those "big epic films" that were takeoffs on LOTR, it might be nice. Gregson-Williams had a nice score, but it wasn't anything special, IMO.That'd be nice. Though I think I'd prefer Williams for Harry Potter 7 over Williams for Narnia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 I'd also love to hear JW score a Narnia film. He hasn't really done any of those "big epic films" that were takeoffs on LOTR, it might be nice. Gregson-Williams had a nice score, but it wasn't anything special, IMO.That'd be nice. Though I think I'd prefer Williams for Harry Potter 7 over Williams for Narnia.Yes, defenetly.On a different note, I completely disagree with your new signature, Blumenkohl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Oh, and JW should score a Mission Impossible film.Goldsmith should've done one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 88 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Poledouris was my second choice for the LOTR films, after Shore. Would've loved to have heard his take.And I desperately want to visit the alternate universe where Goldsmith scored all the Trek films (1982, the year of Trek II, was the year of Poltergeist, NIMH, Night Crossing and First Blood, for crying out loud!) and Bruce Broughton scored all the Harry Potter films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I'd also love to hear JW score a Narnia film. He hasn't really done any of those "big epic films" that were takeoffs on LOTR, it might be nice. Gregson-Williams had a nice score, but it wasn't anything special, IMO.God damn. Does everything have to be about "big epic films"? These Rings ripoffs suck and it's a good thing Williams hasn't scored any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 55 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 James Horner to score the Spielberg Lincoln project. You know...at least get someone who can make interesting slow brooding music.And also use the "danger" motif whenever John Wilkes Booth appears onscreen.However...how about we resurrect the corpse of Bernard Herrmann, extract his DNA, clone him, and get him to rescore every single Zimmer score composed with the exception of Zimmer's magnum opus, "Driving Miss Daisy, op. 19mph". I won't begrudge him that one.Update: Bennie informs me he wouldn't waste ink and paper rescoring Zimmer's work. He deems Zimmer's work "unsuitable for the human ear". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Wasn't Narnia (the books) actually written before Tolkien wrote LOTR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 I'd also love to hear JW score a Narnia film. He hasn't really done any of those "big epic films" that were takeoffs on LOTR, it might be nice. Gregson-Williams had a nice score, but it wasn't anything special, IMO.God damn. Does everything have to be about "big epic films"? These Rings ripoffs suck and it's a good thing Williams hasn't scored any of them.They may suck, but there is a really good chance for a good score in those films! Cutthroat Island sucked, but it had a great score! THe Lost World, 1941, Beetlejuice, Treasure Planet....I'm not saying I want all good films to be done by JW (Narnia, Spy Kids, and M-I:2 were not good films), I'm just saying that I've never heard JW score a film of that sort, and I think it has a high potential for a really good score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 No, though they were published earlier.Tolkien started work on LOTR in 1937 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 55 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The Chronicles of Narnia were written by C.S. Lewis between 1949 and 1954.The Lord of the Rings written by the English academic J. R. R. Tolkien was written in stages between 1937 and 1949, with much of it being created during World War II. Although intended as a single-volume work, it was originally published in three volumes in 1954 and 1955. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 What's so bad about Beetlejuice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The Lord of the Rings written by the English academic J. R. R. Tolkien was written in stages between 1937 and 1949, with much of it being created during World War II. Although intended as a single-volume work, it was originally published in three volumes in 1954 and 1955.Gotta love Wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 633 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 God damn. Does everything have to be about "big epic films"? These Rings ripoffs suck and it's a good thing Williams hasn't scored any of them.They could make for good scores though. That being said, I somewhat enjoy the first Narnia film, though it's obviously not of the same quality as Lord of the Rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Their score potential is certainly no higher than that of mediocre films in other genres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 633 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I suppose each film, even if it's bad, could generate a good score. However, a bad epic fantasy film would generate a good epic fantasy score. Many people would like that. Me included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I suppose each film, even if it's bad, could generate a good score. However, a bad epic fantasy film would generate a good epic fantasy score. Many people would like that. Me included.A good fantasy score from who? John Williams? Well, yes, but that isn't true just of fantasy films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 633 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I don't think anybody claimed it was. Personally I would like a good epic fantasy score by John Willams. But also a pirate score. And various other types of scores as well. John Williams adventure scores are always most welcome. But it seems we'll actually be GETTING one of those soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I would have loved to have heard a Williams Star Trek score in the 80s, but the problem is most of the scores we got were so good I couldn't see them replaced. IV maybe, but that isn't a film Williams could really have flexed his muscles on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 No, though they were published earlier.Tolkien started work on LOTR in 1937I do doubt though that Tolkien would have been happy with people calling his friend's novels LOTR ripoffs.And I desperately want to visit the alternate universe where Goldsmith scored all the Trek films (1982, the year of Trek II, was the year of Poltergeist, NIMH, Night Crossing and First Blood, for crying out loud!)But just imagine, if he'd taken on Khan, he might not have scored one of these others.At least, Horner included plenty of Night Crossing bits in his score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 No, though they were published earlier.Tolkien started work on LOTR in 1937I do doubt though that Tolkien would have been happy with people calling his friend's novels LOTR ripoffs.The novels aren't, the movies are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The films based on Narnia aren't rip-offs as much as they are franchises to ride the success of LOTR (and Harry Potter). If you want to see a blatant rip-off, look at Eragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 I saw Eragon, and it was a bit more of a LOTR rip-off than Narnia. Both terrible, both rip-offs. Neither are really that Potterish to me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 However...how about we resurrect the corpse of Bernard Herrmann, extract his DNA, clone him, and get him to rescore every single Zimmer score composed with the exception of Zimmer's magnum opus, "Driving Miss Daisy, op. 19mph". I won't begrudge him that one.Update: Bennie informs me he wouldn't waste ink and paper rescoring Zimmer's work. He deems Zimmer's work "unsuitable for the human ear".It's always puzzled me how a fan of such shit like Gustavo constantly bashes Zimmer completely out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 32 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 How on earth is "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" any more of an LOTR movie ripoff than any other fantasy film out there? I'm assuming you all are saying the movie is ripping off Jackson's film trilogy? How? I see very little true resemblance between the two. They are quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 Yes, we're talking about the most recent LOTR movies and the most recent Narnia movies. The novels are very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 32 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 As are the films. The biggest influences I see are choral elements in the score, and the battle sequences. The overall tone, story, characterization, world, etc., are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I'll tell you a composer's dream job. Anything where you are paid well, you can take your time, and you can write how and what you want. That would be a dream job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 As are the films. The biggest influences I see are choral elements in the score, and the battle sequences. The overall tone, story, characterization, world, etc., are different.Well, it came out 2 years after LOTR, and it featured a "big battle scene." The mideval battle scene was a trend started by the LOTR films, copied in films such as Eragon, King Arthur, and Narnia. The only reason it wasn't bloodier was because it was a Disney film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 The mideval battle scene was a trend started by the LOTR films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Then what the hell was I watching in all those mideval films prior to 2000?They weren't having a tea party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 32 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Yeah, I don't buy that for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 1,931 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 A Dune trilogy scored by Williams.Herrman scoring a decent Batman movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 How bout Herrmann scoring Poltergeist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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