John Crichton 4 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Williams may not have written anything new, but we were certainly not lacking for wonderful new Williams music this last year. First, the OST of The Witches of Eastwick was reprinted. Nothing new, but nice for those who hadn't gotten it yet. But the last part of the year saw, finally, the release of two Williams Holy Grails: Monsignor, and Images.My vote, hands down, goes to Images.Round 2 will be the non-Williams category (probably not much point, we probably know what'll win, but it's only fair), and Round 3 will be the two winners head to head.John- who just realized this is the first poll he's done on the new/current board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I only have Eastwick, so I'm not going to vote. But I'm considering getting Monsignor and Images, I think I'll probably get at least one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I voted for The Witches Of Eastwick. I already had bootleg scores of Monsignor and Images, and had never owned or heard Witches until it's new release, which was a great experience for me. Although, wasn't Witches re-released in 2006? Or was it just really early '07? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I only have Images so far (since today); Monsignor is still at a friend's, and I haven't even ordered Witches yet. So all I can say is that Images is a great release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Images. Rabbit--already knows the winner of this entire competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 If John, Marian, and red voted for Images, and I voted for Witches, who the heck voted for Monsignor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Already have Witches of Eastwick OST. Totally useless to meMonsignor =LP Bootleg in better sound quality(not dramatically better).No unreleased music/alternates in Monsignor,so the "bare minimum" was issued.I suspect a lot more exists in those master tapes.Images=LP rip also in better sound.Listened to it once,alright,never was a favourite of mine.So nobody winsit wasn't the year for a mind blowing holy Grail Williams releaseWake me up when Family Plot, Harry Potter,Hook,Indiana Jones,SW prequels expanded/Complete are released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 44 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Wake me up when Family Plot, Harry Potter,Hook,Indiana Jones,SW prequels expanded/Complete are releasedYou're gonna be asleep for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Once again KM manages to cheer a thread up with his happy attitude. I already had Witches so it would be between Monsignor and Images and since Monsignor was the likely choice to have a shot at being released I'd say Images was the most pleasant suprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 32 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Gonna say Monsignor, since it's the one I'd most been hoping for (of the three). Witches I love, and I did buy the album since I didn't have the original release, but with the DVD track out there, that CD was more for the collection than anything. Images was a nice surprise, and in listening to it more, I have come to better appreciate it and realize there's some really killer stuff in there.While I welcomed all three of these releases, here's hoping next year's even better. New Williams scores. Expanded old releases. And never-before-released scores (on any format).EDIT: Typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Monsignor, but I haven't ordered Images...I might just bite the bullet and buy it, if it's not sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest macrea Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Family Plot's the winner, but it wasn't one of the choices. It's the first thing in many years that I've found myself playing over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 My Witches of Eastwick says that it was released in 2006, but for the purposes of this poll, we can leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 32 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It was actually June 27, 2006, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 If John, Marian, and red voted for Images, and I voted for Witches, who the heck voted for Monsignor?I didn't vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldsmithFanatic2000+ 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Family Plot's the winner, but it wasn't one of the choices. It's the first thing in many years that I've found myself playing over and over.Alien is the winner. No re-release last year came even minutely close to topping it.I don't know what all this fuss over Family Plot is about. It's not even close to being amongst Williams' best work and a score like Goldsmith's Alien absolutely wipes the floor with it.No vote from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Alien is outstanding, but nothing beats LOTR: ROTK - CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldsmithFanatic2000+ 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Alien is outstanding, but nothing beats LOTR: ROTK - CR.Oh yes! I forgot about that one, and I have it too. ^_^I would draw it with Alien personally.I consider it to be Shore's best out of the three. I think the Complete Recordings are a must have for any serious score fan out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I prefer to think of all three as one massive, continuous score. In 3 movements.Alien is a dream come true though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Family Plot's the winner, but it wasn't one of the choices. It's the first thing in many years that I've found myself playing over and over.Alien is the winner. No re-release last year came even minutely close to topping it.I don't know what all this fuss over Family Plot is about. It's not even close to being amongst Williams' best work and a score like Goldsmith's Alien absolutely wipes the floor with it.i don't get the fuss over Alien.Not even among Goldsmith's most interesting works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldsmithFanatic2000+ 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 i don't get the fuss over Alien.Not even among Goldsmith's most interesting worksSeriously, if you think Alien is not interesting, I doubt highly you have even listened to the score in its entirety, giving it your undivided attention, which a score like Alien requires. Either that or you need some swift educating on what exactly an interesting horror score is.You can consider yourself a minority Mark if you insist, but bare in mind that you are.Goldsmith's score to Alien is a magnificent piece of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 king Mark does not like horror music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldsmithFanatic2000+ 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 king Mark does not like horror music.What a pity, find it too scary huh Mark? ^_^I love some great horror music in my blood.Herrmann's Psycho gives me chills, I love it... Man you are missing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I don't know what all this fuss over Family Plot is about. It's not even close to being amongst Williams' best work and a score like Goldsmith's Alien absolutely wipes the floor with it.Indeed.Thinking of just the three Williams *scores* (as opposed to the actual re-releases, completeness, sound quality and all), Images should b e the clear winner. I obviously agree with what you said about Family Plot, and I was never that keen on Witches of Eastwick. Images is hard to listen to, but certainly a very special entry among Williams' works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Was Eastwick in '06? I thought it was early '07. Oh well.And would those of you talking about Alien actually, y'know, read the poll and the first post. You'll get your chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,638 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I have none of those scores, so the result of this one poll may actually be relevant for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I don't know what all this fuss over Family Plot is about. It's not even close to being amongst Williams' best work and a score like Goldsmith's Alien absolutely wipes the floor with it.Family Plot being released would be a dream come true. I would pick it over any other unreleased/not completely released score(s)I consider it to be Shore's best out of the three. I think the Complete Recordings are a must have for any serious score fan out there.Indeed! While I love FotR and TT, RotK is vastly superior to both of those, IMO. There's hardly any "dead" spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Family Plot's the winner, but it wasn't one of the choices. It's the first thing in many years that I've found myself playing over and over.What the hell are you talking about? It's one thing that Family Plot is not even a part of this poll, but it wasn't even released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Family Plot's the winner, but it wasn't one of the choices. It's the first thing in many years that I've found myself playing over and over.What the hell are you talking about? It's one thing that Family Plot is not even a part of this poll, but it wasn't even released!It wasn't officially released this year, but it turned up somehow this year. The Witches of Eastwick came out last year and ALIEN isn't even by Williams, so Family Plot has just as much right to be included as those others mentioned in this thread.Perhaps even more.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 The Family Plot that surfaced is great,but I'm still wondering about potential sound quality of an official release.The boot was originally MP3pro files encoded in 80kbps mono.We still don't know why it was encoded that way even if it sounds decent (for mono that it) So does it mean the remaining recordings are in mono only and those were "optimal" MP3's (meaning a c.d. wouldn't sound much better),or does stereo masters exist?k.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldsmithFanatic2000+ 0 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Family Plot being released would be a dream come true. I would pick it over any other unreleased/not completely released score(s)Why exactly is that indy? I'm thinking you're a big fan of the film, and would just like to own the score in proper CD quality? Because I feel there are so many superior Williams scores out there that deserve a superior release ahead of Family Plot.The film is a decent Hitchcock affair, but I wouldn't rate it to the degree I would some of his other marvellous work.I myself have Family Plot on a much looked after LP, and I recall the sound quality being much better then the bootleg that has surfaced.It's not a bad score, but it isn't close to being amongst Williams best work as I said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Wait a minute, Family Plot was issued forth on LP?To my knowledge it has never been officially released in any form, save the end creditds on a few compilations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldsmithFanatic2000+ 0 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Wait a minute, Family Plot was issued forth on LP?To my knowledge it has never been officially released in any form, save the end creditds on a few compilations.Give me two minutes, I'll take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 What does that mean?Hello?Hello???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldsmithFanatic2000+ 0 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Aha! You're right! It's an Alfred Hitchcock album I have here.The tracks are performed by the Utah Symphony Orchestra, and it only has the End Credits track on here.I have the same album on CD. Both by Varese Sarabande.indy, do you have this Silva Screen 2CD Hitchcock compilation I also have here? It's amongst my extensive collection of Hitchcock related music, It's called "Psycho: The Essential Alfred Hitchcock" A great listen. It is re-recordings, but good re-recordings none the less. The sound quality is top-notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,251 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 You see...you see!You can't pull a fast one on me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Whoops, forgot to add Amazing Stories III / The Mission to the list.Quite frankly Images and Monsignor are far superior scores to Family Plot. And I'd much rather see Black Sunday get a release before FP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 So does it mean the remaining recordings are in mono only and those were "optimal" MP3's (meaning a c.d. wouldn't sound much better)80kbps MP3s cannot, by definition, be "optimal". Unless you mean that all other sources are destroyed and that's the best thing to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 292 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Monsignor, no brainer. It's an early 80s, LSO score that filled a big hole in JWs golden age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 964 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 So does it mean the remaining recordings are in mono only and those were "optimal" MP3's (meaning a c.d. wouldn't sound much better)80kbps MP3s cannot, by definition, be "optimal". Unless you mean that all other sources are destroyed and that's the best thing to survive.Well,my logic is that the original person who encoded the score to MP3 only had mono recordings to work with,so he chose 80kbps MP3pro files as the format that could provide the most adequate sound quality.Unless it was for eazy upload purpose or wanting to degrade the sound intentionnaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 5,520 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I don't know what MP3pro is, but I'd suppose Mono material will never have less than 50% of the information of Stereo material (probably quite a bit more, since after all you can still hear all the sounds, you just lose a little directional information). As such, 80kbps for anything MP3-related seems awfully low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 2,924 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 yeah it is.I'm just wondering why it was encoded that way by the person who risked his job getting it from the Universal archives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,064 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Images! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 The finals will be posted in about 24 hrs, get your vote in if you haven't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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