Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Article.Sounds interesting. Hopefully, we get a Dubya theme from Johnny.*non-political thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I agree that I'd love for JW to score this. And I think that's about as far anyone can go with this topic without making it political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 32 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 [insert "Darth Vader's Theme"/Dick Cheney joke here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Stone said that "It will contain surprises for Bush supporters and his detractors, but I have a feeling that while it may list some positive and some negative, it will still be tinted slightly in one direction. Anybody know whether Stone's a Democrat or Republican?indy4 - who hasn't gotten political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 He's a liberal conservative libertarian authoritarian Hollywoodarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I agree that I'd love for JW to score this.I... would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 This idea is absurd. It's never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,248 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 And you thought Nixon sounded like the Imperial March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I agree that I'd love for JW to score this.I... would not. I would love JW to score any film, particularly one that's not obvious JW material. I love his collaboration with Stone, because Stone would seem to be one of the last directors JW would work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Well, well, well, Morlock just showed his color.If this is going to happen then I hope the sleeve design is without the subject's photo or name.Are we crossing the line already, Marc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarbas 1 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 See this filmography:Born on the 14th of julyJFKNixonThe PatriotAmerican Journeyand maybe...BushLincolnJohn Williams for President!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 He's done a lot more Americana than just those films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 This idea is absurd. It's never going to happen.What the hell you talking about?TGE - more interested in Josh Brolin's continued and welcome steady rise as a dramatic actor to be reckoned with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC1 3,565 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 This idea is absurd. It's never going to happen.What the hell you talking about?I can't explain or I'll be expelled. But I will tell you this, Williams will never sign up for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 Dubya's life couldn't be any more unfilmable than Trickie-Dickie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Oh yes it could. Nixon dissapeared 20 years before Stone made a movie about him, 7-8 years before Altman made one about him. There was time to evaluate, re-evaluate, look at the bigger picture (for the good and the bad), reach a final conclusion (however right or wrong others may find it). Making a biographical film about a current president would be intellectually mediocre at best. Time is needed. Context is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,391 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 This idea is absurd. It's never going to happen.What the hell you talking about?I can't explain or I'll be expelled. But I will tell you this, Williams will never sign up for this.Ah I understand what your getting at now. I didn't realise you were referring only to any Williams scoring possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I predict the odds of this thread lasting thru the week as very poor.Outside of Spielberg I seriously doubt you will see Williams compose any other film score. Unless the HP franchise asks him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,765 Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 I'd rather a quality Oliver Stone political film over a One Tree Hill style Potter flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Oh yes it could. Nixon dissapeared 20 years before Stone made a movie about him, 7-8 years before Altman made one about him. There was time to evaluate, re-evaluate, look at the bigger picture (for the good and the bad), reach a final conclusion (however right or wrong others may find it). Making a biographical film about a current president would be intellectually mediocre at best. Time is needed. Context is needed.Then what about All the President's Men? It lacked a prominent critical vision, sure, but it didn't take too long untll it was filmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 The fact that it lacked a critical vision is precisely the difference. It is an investigation picture, deals with facts and dates. It doesn't offer an opinion on Watergate. It shows what happened, and (hopefully) freaks people out by what went down, but it doesn't editorialize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 The fact that it lacked a critical vision is precisely the difference. It is an investigation picture, deals with facts and dates. It doesn't offer an opinion on Watergate. It shows what happened, and (hopefully) freaks people out by what went down, but it doesn't editorialize.I agree, whether or not you like the guy, it's way too early to start making movies about Bush. Anything coming out at this point would HAVE to be partisan hackery, just because we have no objectivity to go off of at least for another few years. This is the case with any president or world leader. And judging by the huge factual errors in JFK and Nixon, I don't think we can expect this new movie to give us anything solid we can take away from it other than a partisans point of view about a divisive person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 He's off the deep end. Someone stop this man. He already made what is probably the President's favorite movie, "World Trade Center." I've since concluded that the man that made "Platoon" and "JFK" was never coming back.Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Oh yes it could. Nixon dissapeared 20 years before Stone made a movie about him, 7-8 years before Altman made one about him. There was time to evaluate, re-evaluate, look at the bigger picture (for the good and the bad), reach a final conclusion (however right or wrong others may find it). Making a biographical film about a current president would be intellectually mediocre at best. Time is needed. Context is needed.That's the most sensible and level headed comment one could hope to see in a thread like this. And I agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 73 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 So do I. For this film to be made during or right after Bush's presidency is a recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 You all probably know this, but why JW didn't score World Trade Center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Why would he? He hasn't worked with Stone in over a decade, an even than it was sporadically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I assumed there was some scheduling conflicts, otherwise people wouldn't think that JW would score the Bush movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 It was a hypothesis. He was not working on scores that year, there couldn't be any scheduling conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Oh, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I think Williams would score Bush in the same manner as The Reivers or The River. Kinda folksy guitar twanginess and some harmonica to underscore Bush's puritanical roots and a Gump-like innocent theme for his sensitive side. I think Stone will treat him with kid gloves like he did with Nixon choosing to focus on the system that corrupts rather than the person. Anyhow, I don't want to get into political discussion, just speculation as to how Williams might approach it.For the record, most of what I said above is purely sarcastic. I do not sympathize nor will ever understand the mindset of the current administration and I'll just leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 49 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I think Williams would score Bush in the same manner as The Reivers or The River. Kinda folksy guitar twanginess and some harmonica to underscore Bush's puritanical roots and a Gump-like innocent theme for his sensitive side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Well, if JW scored it it wouldn'tb e a memorable one. In an article talking about the film Oliver Stone mentions it'll probably be an indie film, which means he'll probably go for a generic, repetitive, boring minimalist score, the Oscars just love those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 He needs to wait til Bush is out of the White House..... his term isn't even over yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 55 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Well, if JW scored it it wouldn'tb e a memorable one. In an article talking about the film Oliver Stone mentions it'll probably be an indie film, which means he'll probably go for a generic, repetitive, boring minimalist score, the Oscars just love those.I'll ring Gustavo and see if he's free Anyway, isn't JW a Democrat??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 He needs to wait til Bush is out of the White House..... his term isn't even over yet!No s**t, Sherlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 When I saw the title of this thread, I thought to myself, "Ah, so Oliver Stone has FINALLY turned to making porn." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 why should Johnny write a new theme when Otis' should work perfectly for bush, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 He needs to wait til Bush is out of the White House..... his term isn't even over yet!No s**t, Sherlock.If my post was unnecessary, then yours was just uncalled for, smartass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Well, if JW scored it it wouldn'tb e a memorable one. In an article talking about the film Oliver Stone mentions it'll probably be an indie film, which means he'll probably go for a generic, repetitive, boring minimalist score, the Oscars just love those.I'll ring Gustavo and see if he's free <_< Anyway, isn't JW a Democrat???I would assume, judging by the people he works with (Spielberg, Stone). That part of the country and political view isn't known for being friendly to those with other ideas, so I would assume JW lines up with their beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 He did conduct the Pops at the Democrat convention in '04, but that could have just been because it was in Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 He also wrote a fanfare for Michael Dukakis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Who was governor of Massachusettes. Are these political or just geographical? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 John Willaims also conducted at a big fund raising party for John Kerry, Spielberg was also there as well.Or maybe that was the Dem convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,284 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yes, there was a 'news' in the main page some time ago. 'JW attends democratic convention' or something.So yes i always supposed that was his political orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Quoting a satirical post of mine from last year (slightly revised):'Bush'Score composed and conducted by John Williams01 The 2000's - The Turbulent Years02 The Tale of George W. Bush03 Clinton's Noble End04 Becoming a President05 Abandoned in the Polls06 George's Wondrous World07 Lord, Why Do You Want the Wee Children & Donald Steals the Embryos08 The Towering Infernos09 Meeting the Press & Pronouncing Nucular10 The Demented Converge & Finding WMDs11 Laura's Baroque Recital & The Coming of War12 Catch Osama If You Can13 The Shock-and-Awe Fugue14 The Dune Sea of Al-Qaeda15 Give Me Your Names & The Wiretapping Scene16 Saddam's Prayer17 Parade of the Protestors18 Escape from Judiciary Oversight & Scammed by a Kindergartner19 The Katrina Scene20 Hymn to the Fallen Advisors21 The Attorney-General's Waltz & Somewhere in My Memory But I Can't Recall22 Seven Years in Iraq23 'I Couldn't Have Done Less' ... 'Misleading Managed!' ... & The Tale of George W. Bush Reprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I'd buy that album! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 'Bush'Score composed and conducted by John Williams01 The 2000's - The Turbulent Years02 The Tale of George W. Bush03 Clinton's Noble End04 Becoming a President05 Abandoned in the Polls06 George's Wondrous World07 Lord, Why Do You Want the Wee Children & Donald Steals the Embryos08 The Towering Infernos09 Meeting the Press & Pronouncing Nucular10 The Demented Converge & Finding WMDs11 Laura's Baroque Recital & The Coming of War12 Catch Osama If You Can13 The Shock-and-Awe Fugue14 The Dune Sea of Al-Qaeda15 Give Me Your Names & The Wiretapping Scene16 Saddam's Prayer17 Parade of the Protestors18 Escape from Judiciary Oversight & Scammed by a Kindergartner19 The Katrina Scene20 Hymn to the Fallen Advisors21 The Attorney-General's Waltz & Somewhere in My Memory But I Can't Recall22 Seven Years in Iraq23 'I Couldn't Have Done Less' ... 'Misleading Managed!' ... & The Tale of George W. Bush Reprise03 Clinton's Noble End **Contains excerpts from "Dueling Banjos". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 9 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 LOL (For some reason, I can't access the emoticons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quoting a satirical post of mine from last year (slightly revised):'Bush'Score composed and conducted by John Williams01 The 2000's - The Turbulent Years02 The Tale of George W. Bush03 Clinton's Noble End04 Becoming a President05 Abandoned in the Polls06 George's Wondrous World07 Lord, Why Do You Want the Wee Children & Donald Steals the Embryos09 Meeting the Press & Pronouncing Nucular10 The Demented Converge & Finding WMDs11 Laura's Baroque Recital & The Coming of War12 Catch Osama If You Can13 The Shock-and-Awe Fugue14 The Dune Sea of Al-Qaeda15 Give Me Your Names & The Wiretapping Scene16 Saddam's Prayer17 Parade of the Protestors18 Escape from Judiciary Oversight & Scammed by a Kindergartner19 The Katrina Scene20 Hymn to the Fallen Advisors21 The Attorney-General's Waltz & Somewhere in My Memory But I Can't Recall22 Seven Years in Iraq23 'I Couldn't Have Done Less' ... 'Misleading Managed!' ... & The Tale of George W. Bush Reprise That's brilliant! Scammed by a Kindergartener especially!I think you've showed that before, in some other poll, but it was still great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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