#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Only on JWFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Sounds like a good slogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: But why do people want Doyle to use continuity when JW himself didn't? BECAUSE JOHN WILLIAMS CAN DO WHATEVER THE HELL HE WANTS Jilal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 3 hours ago, alextrombone94 said: BECAUSE JOHN WILLIAMS CAN DO WHATEVER THE HELL HE WANTS Seriously though, what most likely was the case is that Columbus didn't like Doyle's approach (either from a purely musical viewpoint, or during the spotting sessions), heard that he was lucky enough having Williams show at least some interest in helping 'save' the project OR actually asked Williams whether he'd be interested in writing a replacement score (since they collaborated before, on Home Alone). Whether Doyle was recovering from leukemia or not seems irrelevant - should Columbus have accepted Doyle's score, not pleased with it at all, simply for that reason? However, do we know anything about Doyle's financial status during his leukemia period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Mrbellamy, if you're still interested, I'm listening to the Stepmom OST and the timecodes you gave were indeed what I meant about dissonance: for instance the first theme statement on oboe/English horn in The Days Between, it starts out well but then the chords go all weird. Typical of JW and I don't like it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 4 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Mrbellamy, if you're still interested, I'm listening to the Stepmom OST and the timecodes you gave were indeed what I meant about dissonance: for instance the first theme statement on oboe/English horn in The Days Between, it starts out well but then the chords go all weird. Typical of JW and I don't like it at all. Just what would music be without dissonance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 There's a time for dissonance, but not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Nothing weird about that passage to my ears at all. A gorgeous piece of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Maybe it's becuase I was raised with baroque and early romantic music that it sounds weird to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Well, Williams seems primarily influenced by Bartok, Shostakovich, Stravinsky, Strauss, Mahler, etc many early 20th century giants. His uses of dissonance always seem appropriate and consistent with his overall style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Don't forget Bartók, Hindemith, Copland, Hanson, Herrmann, Martinů, Honegger, Takemitsu, Webern, Walton, Lutoslawski and all of his jazz influences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Alexander said: Don't forget Bartok Can't believe I forgot Bartok! 2 hours ago, nightscape94 said: Well, Williams seems primarily influenced by Bartok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 It's Bartók, not Bartok! At the very least, edit your post accordingly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I thought we had moved past the point where we correct peoples spelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 No. Such posts are far more constructive than the "sigh," "WTF," ".....", "what?" and "Indeed" you used to catapult your post count into stupid high numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I prefer trebuchets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I don't have any interest in my postcount, even though it seems to hold a perpetual fascination for many of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jay said: I prefer trebuchets. I hear they're fun with duct tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 We're gonna watch that one this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I don't have any interest in my postcount, even though it seems to hold a perpetual fascination for many of you. So you'd be OK with LeBlanc rebooting your post count, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Why would Jason want to do that? I'm sure he also doesn't give a damn about my postcount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Sure, but it's something I could ask him to do... You know, just for the heck of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I doubt he would even be capable of doing so. Not without removing all my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 That wouldn't be a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Stefan is 100% right. Everybody else, especially BB, talks about his postcount far more than Stiff actually does. Which is really never unless someone else brings it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Cna't believe you're being fooled by Stiff... But OK. Back to Stepmom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Stefan is 100% right. Everybody else, especially BB, talks about his postcount far more than Stiff actually does. Which is really never unless someone else brings it up. Thank you! But could you please call me Steef or Stefan. Like you did the times we met face to face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: I thought we had moved past the point where we correct peoples spelling? Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 6 hours ago, Alexander said: Don't forget Bartók, Hindemith, Copland, Hanson, Herrmann and all of his jazz influences. And Martinů, Honegger, Takemitsu, Webern, Walton, and Lutoslawski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 13 hours ago, bollemanneke said: There's a time for dissonance, but not there. The piano ain't got no wrong notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 17 hours ago, Sharky said: And Martinů, Honegger, Takemitsu, Webern, Walton, and Lutoslawski! His jazz influences. Exactly. And Beethoven, Haydn, Bach, Mozart, ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Has anyone listened to this yet? I'm in the first cue now, it's really nice, but maybe too upbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, bollemanneke said: Has anyone listened to this yet? I'm in the first cue now, it's really nice, but maybe too upbeat. The rejected Doyle score? No. It's never been released, AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 It has now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Ah. I'm not very familiar with "bootleg land". bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 1/24/2008 at 12:06 AM, Morlock said: It preaches that dying from cancer is okay if Julia Roberts is shacking up with your ex-husband and kids. I found the movie to be very offensive to the Susan Sarandon character. It's a Julia Robert vehicle, in the worst way. Isn't this then more or less the same story as Doyle getting replced by Williams while recovering from cancer? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,395 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just listened to the rejected score. It's okay, but not really top tier Doyle. Williams' score, which I listened right after finishing Doyle's, is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Well I'm 10 years too late to the party on Morlock's comments, and I'm 20 years out from seeing the movie, so granted things are a little fuzzy, but I don't recall the message of the movie to be "dying from cancer is okay" even with his further clarification. The movie was more about making peace with the world she was leaving behind before she goes - which included accepting the stepmother who might not raise her kids the same way she would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,280 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: Just listened to the rejected score. It's okay, but not really top tier Doyle. Williams' score, which I listened right after finishing Doyle's, is better. I didn’t know this one had leaked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Having heard some of this score, I can now fully understand why Doyle decided to mutilate Hedwig's theme. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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