Lets talk Star Trek scores

[Trent Hoyt 13]

I really underestimated peoples love for TMP.

[Trent B 337]

in most every case the best stuff makes it on the cds

Most cases ya... but when you have scores like Star Trek The Motion Picture or Nemesis (even First Contact and Insurrection) all the best stuff is left off the CD.

[Lurker 5]

Star Trek:TMP, on the other hand, transcends even that purpose and attains work-of art status. I happen to believe that if it weren't for the fact that it originated as a film score it would stand as a legitimate symphonic tone poem.

I've made a similar statement on several occasions.

Neil

[Ollie 1,059]

I really underestimated peoples love for TMP.

I don't know why. It's the most discussed Trek score and makes almost every Goldsmith top 5 lists.

[Carnifex 5]

I think Jerry's main theme for First Contact is one of the most memorable music he has composed, at least to me. It should be put to the third place after ST:TMP and Wrath of Khan.

[Jay 37,346]

I voted for TMP, but really its a toss-up between it and TWOK, with FC and SFS being the next 2. I am sadly not familiar enough with the other 6 scores

[Romão 2,274]

The only thing I've heard from Nemesis is the 8 minutes suite on Silva's 40 Years of Film Music Jerry Goldsmith compilation. And I must say, judging by those 8 minutes alone, the score seems to be quite excelent. Is the rest of it really that inferior?

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Not at all. I rate it as the best of Goldsmith's TNG scores.

[Maxxie 1]

The Motion Picture!

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Where's Star Trek?

[Wojo 2,453]

Where's Star Trek?

The poll is 16 months old. I'm sure Trentman could add it to the poll, because even I haven't voted yet. But he really shouldn't until May 5. Does nobody have any GD willpower?

[Marian Schedenig 8,191]

The only thing I've heard from Nemesis is the 8 minutes suite on Silva's 40 Years of Film Music Jerry Goldsmith compilation. And I must say, judging by those 8 minutes alone, the score seems to be quite excelent. Is the rest of it really that inferior?

I think the end credits cue is by far the best part of the score. Never really warmed up to most of the rest. The LSO's live performance of the credits was quite something though, the Berlin quote was particularly touching there.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Where's Star Trek?

The poll is 16 months old.

Hence the wink.

[Trent B 337]

I still think the certain version of Nemesis' score makes it a lot better listening experience. There was a lot of good material left off the OST. It took that certain version for me to warm up to the score.

[John Crichton 4]

TMP

II

V

First Contact

Nemesis

III

Generations

VI

Insurrection

IV

John- wondering where Giacchino's will end up on the list

Yeah, I still like that list. And adding #11 in there won't be long now.

[Richard Penna 3,683]

Star what?

[Wojo 2,453]

Search.

[Jacob 0]

Gate?

[JoeinAR 1,949]

who will be the first Giacchino buddy here to declare this the best Star Trek score ever, EVER!

[Ollie 1,059]

I don't know, I'm still on a high from the Airplane announcement.

[Trent B 337]

who will be the first Giacchino buddy here to declare this the best Star Trek score ever, EVER!

As a whole it really pales in comparison to the others.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

so you've already illegally heard it?

Have you illegally downloaded the film too?

[Jeshopk 8]

I am watching Nemesis now. This score is not the best, but it has many wonderful cues. The phaser fight on Shinzon's ship is awesome, especially when Data is hacking the control panel. It has moments of complexity and drama that I have not heard in the clips from the new one. Plus, the use of electronics and percussion is more unique - less cliche. Even when Jerry simplified his style in terms of contrapuntal layers and harmonies, he didn't simplify his basic approach in terms of tempi, keys, techniques, emotions, construction of phrases.

[John Crichton 4]

who will be the first Giacchino buddy here to declare this the best Star Trek score ever, EVER!

I don't think anyone will go that far. The question is which Giacchino hater will be the first to admit that it's good.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

who will be the first Giacchino buddy here to declare this the best Star Trek score ever, EVER!

I don't think anyone will go that far.

I will.

[Trent B 337]

so you've already illegally heard it?

Have you illegally downloaded the film too?

I don't think so. I've only heard the samples and from what I've heard they pale in comparison to the other scores.

As far as the movie I'm going to wait to see it until it hits Blu-Ray so I can watch it in the comfort of my own room on my 42'' HDTV.

[Trent Hoyt 13]

Ah, its almost time for a new poll. I feel like Star Trek will be getting some major loving.

[Vaderbait1 1]

so you've already illegally heard it?

Have you illegally downloaded the film too?

We should start jailing all those reviewers who hear things before they are released, or those people who are given complimentary copies before they are released. Damn criminals!

[tharpdevenport 4]

From best to least favorite:

TWoK

Three-way tie: TVH, G, and FC

TFF

Two-way tie: TMP and I

Two-way tie: TSFS and TUC

Nemsis and the Giacchino one don't register.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

1. The Voyage Home - Leorence Rosenthalman pwnz

2. Generations - epix

3. Nemesis - bestest Jerry score

4. First Contact - Joel does his ark of truth thing

5. Insurrection - love the US Marshals theme

6. The Final Frontier - good god!

7. The Undiscovered Country - this is not Klingon music

8. The Search for Spock - more like more money

9. The Wrath of Khan - overrated Horner crap dat sounds leik titantic

10. Star Trek - id rather a cappachinno

11. The Motion Picture - how could Jerry have composed such a bloated piece of tosh?

[Jacob 0]

Come now Mr. Drax. Young minds, fresh ideas. Be tolerant.

[Jay 37,346]

Has Drax every made a non-sarcastic post?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

No, and neither has Hitch. They're the comic relief of the board.

[Wojo 2,453]

No, they have made serious posts when it would be improper and/or insensitive to make a sarcastic comment.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

That's not very damn funny.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

No, they have made serious posts when it would be improper and/or insensitive to make a sarcastic comment.

Well yeah, they're not gonna go be sarcastic and make sex jokes in a RIP thread.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

No, but many will when Hugh Hefner carks it.

[Trent Hoyt 13]

Any new thoughts? Should I make a new poll to include Giacchino's score?

[Admiral Holdo 16]

Oh wow, this thread.

Might as well 'fess up - I was the one who voted for IV. TWOK is my favorite, though.

[indy4 155]

I stand by my vote for TMP. In fact, recently Horner's two scores haven't been doing it. I think I may have over listened to WoK. Although with about as many listens I've never been bored of TMP.

[Datameister 2,041]

For me, TWOK, no contest. The TMP main theme is a true classic, but the rest of the score still hasn't quite enthralled me as much as it should. And Giacchino's effort gets an honorable mention for being an interesting and different take on Trek scores, with a fantastic main theme and the best use of the Courage theme (not the fanfare) since the 60s. However, there are numerous Trek scores I don't know very well, so my opinion is limited in its educatedness.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I'm the same as I ever was, TMP first, TWOK second. Although SFS has gone up hugely in my estimation.

[Ollie 1,059]

Revised listing for me after the recent events:

Star Trek:TMP

Star Trek II

Star Trek III

Star Trek V

Star Trek

Star Trek VI

Star Trek IV

Star Trek First Contact

Star Trek Generations

Star Trek Nemesis

Star Trek Insurrection

[John Crichton 4]

My revised list:

TMP

II

III

V

First Contact

GiaTrek

Nemesis

Generations

VI

Insurrection

IV

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Revision be thy name:

THE MOTION PICTURE

THE WRATH OF KHAN

THE FINAL FRONTIER

THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK

THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY

NEMESIS

INSURRECTION

2.0

FIRST CONTACT

GENERATIONS

THE VOYAGE HOME

[Trent B 337]

Here would be my list..

The Motion Picture

The Wrath Of Khan

The Search For Spock

The Final Frontier

Star Trek (Giacchino)

Nemesis

First Contact

Insurrection

Generations

The Voyage Home

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

TMP

Final Frontier

Wrath of Khan

First Contact

Insurrection

Search for Spock

Nemesis

Undiscovered Country

Generations

2009

Voyage Home

[Trent Hoyt 13]

For those of you that haven't voted yet, I added Star Trek XI to the poll.

[STORM 1]

Star trek 1,

star 5

2

3

All got great themes,they`re superb on soundtrack every cue,like the style of each score,for me they work just as well on soundtrack as they do in film if not better

[stewdog1 50]

TMP and TWOK are a tie for me. TMP because of its great themes, however, it doesn't keep me through the entire score as it meanders through the V'Ger stuff. TWOK has themes almost as good as TMP, but it keeps me listening all the way to the end.

1. TWOK

1a. TMP

3. FC

4. Star Trek

5. TFF

6. TUC

7. TSFS

8. INS

9. GEN

10. NEM

11. TVH