Intrada's Next Release Nexth Month

[indy4 152]

On a related note, just for you score-keepers per se, we've finally received all of our approvals on that particularly exciting title we promised at the start of the year. In terms of studio relationships, it's a real breakthrough for us. We'll finally be able to share the CD with you next month. And the other item I teased you about - the one with the composer working closely with me on a score that used a massive brass section - well, we're wrapping up production on it next month. So it'll be available before too long as well. I could toss out tidbits about a dozen other things in production but... well, you might not have the energy to respond to my request for release pattern feedback!

I'm more interested in the first one. What companies hasn't Intrada worked with? If Universal, could it be Family Plot? If Sony, could it be the SW Prequels? If Paramount, could it be the Indy boxset? If Warner Brothers, could it be Potters? If. . . .

[John Crichton 4]

If Universal, could it be Family Plot? If Sony, could it be the SW Prequels? If Paramount, could it be the Indy boxset? If Warner Brothers, could it be Potters? If. . . .

Let's settle this one early. No. No. No. No.

[Trent B 317]

It might be something that not many people would want...

[Koray Savas 2,095]

No one wants Family Plot. Well, except for indy4.

[indy4 152]

No one wants Family Plot. Well, except for indy4.

This topic begs to differ!

http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13506&hl=

Ah, how different I was way back then...

[Delorean90 32]

Now wait a minute. I had understood Doug's previous hints to indicate it was just one big exciting release, that they were working closely with the composer on and it had a large brass section...this could get interesting, at least from a budgetary stance.

[indy4 152]

There's 2 seperate releases--one with the big brass and with Fake working with the composer, the other is just a "particularly exciting title."

[Delorean90 32]

Yeah, I had understood them to be the same project. Makes things much more interesting. It sounds like both could be must-haves, based on the limited hints we've had. We'll just have to see how it goes.

[indy4 152]

Yeah, I'm hoping!

Also, anybody know how all those labels got the rights release the "Finale and End Credits" to Family Plot, but not the entire score?

[Henry B 49]

Those are new recordings, though, aren't they?

[Trent B 317]

Enough with the family plot crap, geez it's getting old all ready...

[indy4 152]

Those are new recordings, though, aren't they?

I don't know. But if they were, why can't they just record the entire score? JW has it nice and bound on his bookshelf, so it isn't a matter of loosing the written score.

indy4 - who doesn't know much about the buisness of releasing scores

EDIT:

Another clue, given a while ago:

Okay. While Roger plays with you guys on the two titles for next week, I guess I'll toss out a really small bone about the ambitious one ahead. There's a big orchestra in it. Okay, and the movie was a big hit. Actually, the orchestra is really big - there are multiple tuba parts and even stuff for baritone horn players - as well as ninety other musicians. (How sad they all get mixed down to just two channels!) Now it's time for bed. I wanna make sure I check the right box when I vote in the morning.

[Hitch 55]

Enough with the family plot crap, geez it's getting old all ready...

You're obviously not a fan of John Williams then???

[BLUMENKOHL 1,064]

Conan the Barbarian.

Big brass section. It was sad they all got mixed down into the aged mix, which worked excellently...but still...

Though how they work with Basil is anyone's guess.

[Kendal_Ozzel 32]

Another clue, given a while ago:

Okay. While Roger plays with you guys on the two titles for next week, I guess I'll toss out a really small bone about the ambitious one ahead. There's a big orchestra in it. Okay, and the movie was a big hit. Actually, the orchestra is really big - there are multiple tuba parts and even stuff for baritone horn players - as well as ninety other musicians. (How sad they all get mixed down to just two channels!) Now it's time for bed. I wanna make sure I check the right box when I vote in the morning.

Back to the Future?

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

Wow. 14 posts before Back to the Future was mentioned.

Is that a record?

- Marc, who is secretly hoping for it too, but isn't expecting anything.

[fommes 126]

Back to the Future?

Wasn't that ruled out?

Oh and...

I'm more interested in the first one. What companies hasn't Intrada worked with? If Universal, could it be Family Plot? If Sony, could it be the SW Prequels? If Paramount, could it be the Indy boxset? If Warner Brothers, could it be Potters? If. . . .

Sheesh!

[Delorean90 32]

Yeah, Roger said no...but on the other hand if he didn't want a big ruckus, then leaving it open or saying yes wouldn't behoove him, would it?

Someone else mentioned Batman somewhere. That would be awesome if it were true--I'd love to have the complete "First Confrontation" and "Attack of the Batwing" in good quality. Anyone have any idea on the brass instrumentation on that one? One hint Doug gave a while back was that they had numerous alternate takes and such. There are definitely multiple alternate film mixes and takes on Batman.

However, the clues really seemed to point to BTTF. It's a big ambitious release, the movie was a huge hit, the orchestra was the largest ever assembled for a Universal film at the time, and not only is Silvestri alive, but Intrada released his complete score for Judgment Night. That's a lot in its favor. I would be thrilled with either release, really.

[Greg1138 2]

The Brass Section for Batman is pretty big - but big enough with everything else to produce a 90+ piece orchestra? I don't think so......not listening to it, anyway.......not many orchestras used in films quite reach that kind of scale, and the number of movies that have been scored by an orchestra that size are quite few and far between (barring the obvious ones).

We have been very spoilt recently with score releases and my bank balance is groaning......but hey ho, I guess there's always room for one more biggy if it's a must-get!!

Greg

[Ollie 859]

All one has to do is look at the composers Intrada has worked with over the years and who is still alive and interested in getting their scores released to the public.

As far as the "breakthru" perhaps that could mean something from Paramount or Universal. Also Intrada has gotten it's foot in the door with Amblin so that could be the composer involved score.

My guesses for both scores, if something major, would be :

Back to The Future

The Goonies

Young Sherlock Holmes

Black Sunday - which is much more intersting than Family Plot and comes during a period where Williams was at the very top of his game.

The Right Stuff

Conan

Perhaps Horner is returning to the Intrada mix, I believe they have only done one score of his as part of their limited releases, not counting Amazing Stories.

[Mr. Breathmask 480]

I don't think it's The Goonies. Lukas Kendall recently adressed that score specifically in the AICN Interview:

I can tell you specifically the problem with The Goonies is that the album came out on Epic Soundtrax, which means Sony/BMG likely has the soundtrack rights, but they are not a company typically inclined to do the kinds of deluxe score presentations that labels like FSM and Intrada do - and they also have minimum license fees for allowing another label to do the project that can be prohibitive. So that is one problem.

It also may still be an active title for them (because of the songs on the album), I don't know, in which case their A&R people are involved and it precludes the release of any other version. The next problem is that the previously unreleased score would presumably have to be licensed by Warner Bros. (which can be done - that is what we did with Superman).

However, I think Amblin may have a contractual say in the matter, so that's a third party at the table. And THEN you have the reuse fees. So to do The Goonies would be a big production involving major relationships with Sony, Warners and Amblin and it's not to say it can't be done, but sometimes there aren't enough hours in the day. Or dollars in the wallet.

I'd be very happy if it did happen, but I'm not counting on it.

I'll wait and see.

[Ollie 859]

I think that also might be the case with Back To The Future as well. I think Ford or someone had mentioned the original album is still in print and is a good seller so music rights might have to be sourced from several areas.

I still see it in stores.

[Delorean90 32]

They did say it was ambitious...I don't know what else it could be that hasn't been mentioned. I'm stumped.

[Henry B 49]

Those are new recordings, though, aren't they?

I don't know. But if they were, why can't they just record the entire score? JW has it nice and bound on his bookshelf, so it isn't a matter of loosing the written score.

indy4 - who doesn't know much about the buisness of releasing scores

John Williams doesn't own the rights to his music. Just because he has a copy of the score sitting on a shelf doesn't mean he can just loan it out to an orchestra and a recording engineer and get a CD published without any studio batting an eye.

[Ollie 859]

I believe those 2 cues from Family Plot are the actual recordings.

[fommes 126]

It depends on the CD, you've also got the Silva rerecording.

[indy4 152]

Black Sunday - which is much more intersting than Family Plot and comes during a period where Williams was at the .

I should see this film....

Those are new recordings, though, aren't they?

I don't know. But if they were, why can't they just record the entire score? JW has it nice and bound on his bookshelf, so it isn't a matter of loosing the written score.

indy4 - who doesn't know much about the buisness of releasing scores

John Williams doesn't own the rights to his music. Just because he has a copy of the score sitting on a shelf doesn't mean he can just loan it out to an orchestra and a recording engineer and get a CD published without any studio batting an eye.

But whose idea was it to release only certain parts of such a wanted score? If it's the original recording, as Mark said, wouldn't that mean they could have released all of the original recording? And if it's a new recording, could they not re-record the whole score? I mean, I think most of those companies know how wanted FP is.

indy4 - who doesn't know much about the buisness of releasing scores

[Henry B 49]

Yes, that's quite interesting that original recordings are out. Obviously it's less expensive to release two cues than to release the entire score, but that is still surprising. I don't know.

[Ollie 859]

The two actual cues were part of a Hitchcock compilation set.

I'm not sure what the rights are as far as releasing just a few cues on a compilation set.

[Trent Hoyt 13]

No one wants Family Plot. Well, except for indy4.

indy4 and Family Plot again. Where am I?

[Jacob 0]

Couldn't be any place but JWFan.

[Ollie 859]

I'd still rather have Black Sunday.

[indy4 152]

If they release it, I might shut up. . . .

. . . . after I stop ranting about how brilliant it is!

[Delorean90 32]

There's that word again: brilliant. Why is everything so brilliant in the future--is there a problem with the earth's gravitational pull?

[indy4 152]

Brilliant idea. Perhaps quoting from a certain movie will guarantee that will be one of Intrada's releases!

[Delorean90 32]

Yes! It's Back to the Future, my density!

I mean...my destiny.

[Hitch 55]

Yes more Horner wouldn't go astray from Intrada Special Editions. I'm still not giving up hope of a complete Star Trek II and III scores to be released within the next 50 Earth year time span. As I already have "Black Sunday" albeit via bootleg, "Family Plot" will be a nice addition to have in an otherwise under-released John Williams collection.