Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 12 hours ago, mrbellamy said: 2 was nearly a straight-to-video disaster and they salvaged it into a masterpiece. I was extremely skeptical of 3 and thought it made a great case for its existence. I felt the same about 4. At this point I'm convinced it's a charmed franchise but I wish they'd stop pushing their luck with it. If they can't bear not to do 5 then it'd be better to have another 10-ish year gap. That helped 3 and 4 go down easier. I was very sceptical about TS4 after 3 provided such a fitting send-off, but enjoyed 4 a great deal anyway, however very much feeling the "are they pushing their luck?" vibe I have to agree. I mean, I hope it's great, but it feels increasingly risky to have yet another fond farewell... on the other hand, any excuse for a new Randy Newman score! enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,385 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 The Toy Story shorts were excellent. But I can't imagine that they want to do that. All four of the films have been the toy's (especially Woody's) relationship with the people. As good as 4 might have been it felt like such an afterthought after 3. They almost feel like alternate versions of 3. So I can't imagine what would convince me to invest in 5. But what do I know. I was against an Incredibles 2. (AND I WAS RIGHT!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I’m happy they’ll make a movie that will excite my kid (same with the Frozen and Zootopia sequels he mentioned), and hopefully they will be good! That’s about as passionate as I’m going to get about Toy Story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I love Toy Story. But 5 had better be the end. It probably should have ended after 2. Then it really should have ended after 3, which was very affecting but mostly just recapitulated themes from its predecessor. There was still plenty to like with 4, but it was so unnecessary, and I wasn't onboard with the ending at all. For me, the only silver lining to doing 5 is that it's a chance to right that wrong. Jay and JNHFan2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 They’re movies about talking dolls, and they’re pretty good but I don’t think they need to be held in higher esteem than your Shreks and your Ice Ages. Jurassic Shark, Not Mr. Big and Tallguy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Shrek? Not Mr. Big and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 He’s like a green Toy Story Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 963 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 09/02/2023 at 9:19 PM, mstrox said: I don’t think they need to be held in higher esteem than your Shreks and your Ice Ages. Having re-watched all the Shreks recently, this is one of the wilder takes I've seen around here. And I don't hold TS3 in a top 10 Pixar status., but agree it was a fitting end, and they should leave well-enough alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Why would you do that to yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,385 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 With the possible exception of the How to Train Your Dragon movies (esp. 1 and ohhhhh it's SOOO BEAUTIFUL 2) the worst Pixar / Disney movies are just on a totally different level than any other studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 They’re all movies for literal babies and should be viewed under the same microscope lens! I don’t mean that one can’t be better than another (although I don’t like the Dragon things), but stressing out that the fifth Toy Story will Ruin the Institution is giving way too much cultural import to a series about the secret lives of talking toys (all of which I really liked, btw!). Imo (Switch your lens slightly and I’ll offer the exact same criticism to tween stuff like space fantasy and comic book movies). Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 The strength of Pixar's films have always been that they're both for kids and adults. These are not films for 'literal babies'. (Almost) Every Pixar film is a different viewing experience from when you are a child and then as adult. That's why I feel they're so great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,357 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 09/02/2023 at 1:16 PM, Naïve Old Fart said: TOY STORY 6: THE SEARCH FOR MORE MONEY Yep. I mean, 4 was still fun ... but 5 is unnecessary, to say the least. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,352 Posted February 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2023 Mike has some out-there opinions constantly on this forum, but this is the most out-there one yet The Toy Story films (especially 2 and 3) are clearly aimed at adults as much as children, and are very different from the Shreks and Ice Ages of the world, by a country mile. enderdrag64, mstrox, JNHFan2000 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I don’t view that as too different from Shrek including The Matrix references or whatever - all of these movies have “something for the parents.” I have no problem being out there alone on this one though! Jurassic Shark and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 09/02/2023 at 8:22 PM, Clockwork Angel said: Shrek? Shrek >> Monsters Ink Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 These visuals are gorgeous Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Yes. And unfortunately there will be again no possibility to experience them in 3D at home. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Pixar’s New ‘Up’ Short Film ‘Carl’s Date’ to Debut Theatrically With ‘Elemental’ This was previously announced as going direct to Disney+ and the OST album already dropped, then was pulled https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/35155-first-impressions-the-scores-of-2023/&do=findComment&comment=1940074 JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 First bit of Newman score. Sounds nice. Trope and LSH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 13/02/2023 at 3:10 PM, mstrox said: I don’t view that as too different from Shrek including The Matrix references or whatever - all of these movies have “something for the parents.” I have no problem being out there alone on this one though! I guess people are falling for TS's sentimentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 You either die a Toy Story or you live long enough to be the Shrek Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 527 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said: First bit of Newman score. Sounds nice. So excited for a new animated Newman score! This does already sound lovely. However, the character design and visual aesthetics are really bad in my opinion. It looks like a cheap television animated show. The water character here looks especially bad... Maybe it'll take time to grow on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,284 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 It also just looks derivative of Inside Out. If the screenplay and world-building are as clever as Pixar can be then it won't matter much but still, looks a bit copy-paste. Although looking at the premise, they don't seem to be doing the Pixar thing of "here is what's REALLY been going on the whole time!" and it's just a pretend city with elemental characters. I guess more like the Cars approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 You can indeed hear the Indian influences Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 HE NAMED ME VICTORIA AND THE BEST EXOTIC ELEMENTAL HOTEL LSH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 963 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 27/05/2023 at 1:32 PM, mrbellamy said: Although looking at the premise, they don't seem to be doing the Pixar thing of "here is what's REALLY been going on the whole time!" and it's just a pretend city with elemental characters. I guess more like the Cars approach. I've found that recent Pixar films have gotten a little meta-modernist and allegorical. The older films were more of their own universe. Probably why I liked Onward so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,436 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 First poster for Elio: This movie is begging for a John Powell score! But it's more likely that it'll be either the Danna bros, Giacchino or an indie composer. Jay and Courtney Sees Ghosts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Trailer too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,436 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 It gave me some Lilo & Stitch vibes. But why is the little boy wearing an eye patch? Was he playing pirates or did he went through eye surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 13 hours ago, Edmilson said: First poster for Elio: This movie is begging for a John Powell score! But it's more likely that it'll be either the Danna bros, Giacchino or an indie composer. I mean, for the last 10 years, there's only a couple of Pixar scores where I wouldn't have traded for a Powell score, but this does indeed seem ideal for him, but yeah, probably not going to get it... maybe they shy away because of his multiple collaborations with various other CGI animation studios?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Nah. Thomas Newman, all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,352 Posted June 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2023 Clever posters for Elemental JNHFan2000, Trope and Brónach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 963 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Anyone else really not like Inside Out? I finally got around to watching it, and was really disappointed. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Loved it Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 It sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,436 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 A personal message from #Elemental director, Peter Sohn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 18 hours ago, Schilkeman said: Anyone else really not like Inside Out? I finally got around to watching it, and was really disappointed. It's very simplistic, but it's also very good. Anyone who has, or works with, children should watch this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 963 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's very simplistic, but it's also very good. Anyone who has, or works with, children should watch this. I appreciate that. I definitely appreciate that their output has become more diverse, but looking back, it seemed to start a trend of overly allegorical Pixar films that looks to be continuing with Elemental. I did really like Onward, though. It feels like more classic Pixar. I should probably give Coco a second chance. I thought Soul was a great final third with a really dull first and second. I couldn’t get into Luca at all. I still need to see Incredibles 2, but I’m not really fond of any Pixar sequel, even Toy Story, though those are the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 TOY STORY 2 transcends the original, in every single way. THE INCREDIBLES 2 is not quite as good as the original, but it's still a damn fine film I'm very interested to see where Pixar goes, with INSIDE OUT 2. Curiously enough, a lot of teachers (I work at the local high school) have INSIDE OUT in their offices enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 963 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 On 17/6/2023 at 9:23 AM, Naïve Old Fart said: TOY STORY 2 transcends the original, in every single way. It’s better, but it’s not as good lol. I do think it’s better than the third one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 963 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 On 13/02/2023 at 8:50 AM, mstrox said: They’re all movies for literal babies and should be viewed under the same microscope lens! I don’t mean that one can’t be better than another (although I don’t like the Dragon things), but stressing out that the fifth Toy Story will Ruin the Institution is giving way too much cultural import to a series about the secret lives of talking toys (all of which I really liked, btw!). Imo (Switch your lens slightly and I’ll offer the exact same criticism to tween stuff like space fantasy and comic book movies). you sound fun On 16/06/2023 at 8:34 PM, Schilkeman said: I should probably give Coco a second chance I did. I still don't like it. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I liked Inside Out quite a bit - not a Pixar all-timer, but definitely in the top half of their output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,385 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Coco is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 963 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: Coco is awesome! I so strongly dislike the grandmother, it ruins the film for me. I simply reject the premise. It's a beautiful film, but its message of "follow your heart," gets really muddled with "respect your elders," a philosophy I learned to be wary of from a young age. I'm sure it's a cultural thing, to some extant, but I think Ratatouille did it better. I think it was a more original concept, more imaginatively animated, and more intelligently scripted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Coco is god-tier. Other top ones - Toy Story 3, Up, Incredibles. I remember Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, and Wall-E being quite good, too, but I’d need to rewatch to know if I’d still feel that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,959 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Coco is an incredible film!!! One of my favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,436 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Bringing a discussion from the Upcoming Films thread to here: Pixar's Elio moves from March 1, 2024 to June 13, 2025. Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/disney-delays-snow-white-actor-strike-1235629856/ So far there's one Pixar movie dated for 2024: Inside Out 2. We'll see if it will remain where it is or if it'll move due to the strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyenaBoy 29 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Hey, Pixar; just give us the complete score to Turning Red, already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 100 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Edmilson said: Pixar's Elio moves from March 1, 2024 to June 13, 2025. That's a huge delay. They are not going to dismantle the film and rework it into a different movie (e.g. Good Dinosaur), are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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