Jay 37,287 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Because Universal Pictures didn't vault it properly and the element decayed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 OK. I somehow thought that also went down in the fire, but it's nice to hear it was destroyed just due to negligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Why would scoring elements for a Universal Pictures film be in the vaults of Universal Music? You may be thinking of the elements for the re-recorded album sessions, which DID burn up in the fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Yeah, that was sorted out several posts ago. I was just stating what I thought to be the case, several years after reading the details and halfway forgetting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 It is now reported that the fire was more damaging than first reported, affecting up to 800 artists instead of “just” the initial 100. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jun/26/universal-warehouse-fire-neil-young-cher-martin-luther-king MikeH, SteveMc, Jay and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Courtney Love's tapes were destroyed too... now THAT'S a tragedy! Quote A group of musicians and estates – Courtney Love’s band Hole, Steve Earle, Soundgarden, the estate of Tupac Shakur, and a former wife of Tom Petty – have already filed a lawsuit against UMG, seeking $100m in damages. Love has criticised UMG, telling the New York Times: “No one knows for sure yet, specifically what is gone from their estate, their catalog. But for once in a horrible way people believe me about the state of the music business which I would not wish on my worst enemy. Our culture has been devastated, meanwhile UMG is online with cookie recipes and pop, as if nothing happened. It’s so horrible.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 But where's those cookie recipes? Were they lost too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Anyone else remember when Courtney Love was loaded and tried to fuck with Madonna on MTV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 No, Steef: "fuck with", not "fuck" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 What's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Richard said: No, Steef: "fuck with", not "fuck" Still hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 And apparently John Williams stuff too (as may have been previously reported in this thread). Jon Burlingame says on Facebook: Quote Composers whose album masters appear to have been lost in the Universal vault fire, per the latest NYT story: Burt Bacharach (A&M), Elmer Bernstein (Decca), Marvin Hamlisch (A&M), Jan Hammer (MCA), Quincy Jones (A&M), Ennio Morricone (MCA), John Williams (MCA). It would break my heart if this was some of the old, unreleased Revue/MCA/Universal TV stuff, like ALCOA PREMIERE THEATRE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I wonder if the Universal fire is one of the reasons JW has become more interested in preserving his film scores for posterity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Maybe. If so, he should stop boycotting stuff like SUGARLAND EXPRESS and STORY OF A WOMAN.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Those are both already done and preserved! Just not released to the public, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 True, but they were just an example of the attitude. I wonder if we'll ever get to know what, exactly, of Williams' MCA work was lost in the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 It seems UMG is doing everything in their power, including misleading the affected artists and the public, to withhold information about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 You did not see graphite on the ground because it wasn't there... IT WASN'T THERE!! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, Thor said: True, but they were just an example of the attitude. I wonder if we'll ever get to know what, exactly, of Williams' MCA work was lost in the fire. I guess you could start by asking Jon Burlingame to elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: It seems UMG is doing everything in their power, including misleading the affected artists and the public, to withhold information about this. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I know the primary concern here are for film scores but the list of artists affected, wow. Huge losses that I can’t even begin to fathom. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 There is a possibility that The Bangles lost their material in the fire. Even though they were on Columbia, they are listed on the UMG website. I am trying to get a response on the matter from the NYT and one of their writers on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 It's good many of their songs are on YouTube then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Oh, yes, the albums and singles themselves are up and safe. It is the original masters and unreleased material that may be affected here, and, apparently, there was a lot of unreleased songs that are reportedly quite good. Would also be nice to hear the isolated bass recordings, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I'm just pulling your leg, Steve. Of course the loss of original masters is a significant loss! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 My inability to detect humor and irony is notorious! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Is that a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 “A joke is a story with a humorous climax?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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