Speats 0 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Just heard about Concord's reissue plans for the original soundtracks...I'm hoping for a bit more than just straight reissues - I'd like to see them reissued as digi-packs, remastered, and with unreleased material (if any exists)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 lets hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I wrote Concord an email the other day and kindly explained my feelings on the matter, and I think it certainly wouldn't hurt if everyone else did the same. Mine just talked about how a single 4-disc set with straight reissues of the first three scores would be less than ideal. I complimented them on KOTCS, because really, a 77-minute new release is certainly better than we could've gotten. But I pointed out that they should, at the very least, give each disc as much music, and that a 40-minute album and a 77-minute album in the same set would be kinda silly. Like I said, letting them know we're interested certainly can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 This thread title is misleading. Where is the announcement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Welcome to the forum...this is practically old news since it's been mentioned on the forum. I do have a question why in gods name would anyone would want a digipack release of the previous scores? Digipacks suck and I for one prefer a regular jeweled case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Welcome to the forum...this is practically old news since it's been mentioned on the forum. I do have a question why in gods name would anyone would want a digipack release of the previous scores? Digipacks suck and I for one prefer a regular jeweled case.more likely one of those 'clam shell' 4 disc jewel cases... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmw331 2 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Digipacks suck and I for one prefer a regular jeweled case.Ya got that right!!Of course, if they want to release some unreleased score material on a digipack, I say have at it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speats 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 Digipacks suck and I for one prefer a regular jeweled case.Ya got that right!!Of course, if they want to release some unreleased score material on a digipack, I say have at it!! Agreed..as long as the original cover art is reproduced and we get some unreleased material I'll be happy. I wasn't a big fan of what BMG did with the Star Wars soundtracks a decade ago...I missed having the original artwork.Jewel cases though tend to break easily though, I'd like to see something maybe more evolved - like a super jewel or something. Vinyl reissues would be awesome too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 The KotSC digipack is not as bad as the Jaws one.The plastic prongs holding the c.d. seems more sturdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I wrote Concord an email the other day and kindly explained my feelings on the matter, and I think it certainly wouldn't hurt if everyone else did the same. Mine just talked about how a single 4-disc set with straight reissues of the first three scores would be less than ideal. I complimented them on KOTCS, because really, a 77-minute new release is certainly better than we could've gotten.Yeah, so did I.indy4 - who would prefer some special packaging for these scores, other than the usual jewel case/digipack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Is there an email address for Concord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't want digipacks....if those are what the Jaws 25th Anniversary and Menken Disney scores come in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Is there an email address for Concord?cmonck@concordrecords.comAt least that's the lady that e-mailed Ricard about the 4 CD boxset... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I wrote Concord an email the other day and kindly explained my feelings on the matter, and I think it certainly wouldn't hurt if everyone else did the same. Mine just talked about how a single 4-disc set with straight reissues of the first three scores would be less than ideal. I complimented them on KOTCS, because really, a 77-minute new release is certainly better than we could've gotten. But I pointed out that they should, at the very least, give each disc as much music, and that a 40-minute album and a 77-minute album in the same set would be kinda silly. Like I said, letting them know we're interested certainly can't hurt.The fact that KotCS album is 77 minutes long was hardly Condord's decision. But sure, let's all write to them and tell them how we feel. Certainly can't hurt. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Get your placards ready, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 The fact that KotCS album is 77 minutes long was hardly Condord's decision.You are mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 The fact that KotCS album is 77 minutes long was hardly Condord's decision.You are mistaken.Do you have any info saying otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Yes, do a search at FSM or here for a discussion of union fees on scores or e-mail someone like Lukas Kendall or Robert Townson at Varese.Concord's the one paying for the music. Granted this is a big project and John Williams is a household name, he tends to get longer album releases, and who knows what deal they have with Lucasfilm for the soundtrack but it does cost money for so many minutes of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Yes, do a search at FSM or here for a discussion of union fees on scores or e-mail someone like Lukas Kendall or Robert Townson at Varese.Concord's the one paying for the music. Granted this is a big project and John Williams is a household name, he tends to get longer album releases, and who knows what deal they have with Lucasfilm for the soundtrack but it does cost money for so many minutes of music.So you're saying that just because Concord was willing to pay more, we get more music??? ^_^ I may be too skeptical, but something's not right about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I don't know what kind of deal they have with Lucasfilm but label can decide how much music they are willing to pay for. That's one of the reasons Varese's scores used to run short. It cost too much to release scores over 30 minutes. They had better rates on the first 30 minutes of music. Union fees have changed over the years so it's cheaper now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Anyway, I'd be over the moon if they decided to release expanded let alone complete scores, but I gotta be honest I'd be pretty happy with straight reissues, as well. Nice to have all 4 scores on CDs, finally!Maybe, if we're lucky, we might get expansive liner notes, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 BTW anyone who wants a digipack release should be ashamed of themselves. As I said before I prefer a jeweled case over a digipack any day. Of course box sets like LOTR and Karate Kid do not bother me but I mean a digipack like what I saw for the Indy 4 score release is just very shameful. I want to have my CD well protected in a good case not some flimsy cardboard piece of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Well, the digipack still has a plastic tray, so it's half a jewel case. I just don't think the packaging is a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 If the digipack gets wet or damaged then your screwed, you can't replace it. At least with a jeweled case if it gets cracked you can always replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 True. You'd have to make copies of the covers and stick them in a jewel case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Yes, do a search at FSM or here for a discussion of union fees on scores or e-mail someone like Lukas Kendall or Robert Townson at Varese.Concord's the one paying for the music. Granted this is a big project and John Williams is a household name, he tends to get longer album releases, and who knows what deal they have with Lucasfilm for the soundtrack but it does cost money for so many minutes of music.YET, there is not mention of the orchestra members, as it should.not even the orchestra is credited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 working on my email I have heard of your plans to re-release the Indiana Jones soundtracks and I am afraid that you will take the cheapest and most cost effective route possible ,meaning straight re-issues of the original soundtracks with no previously unreleased music but with marketing gimmicks like a nice box ,"re-mastered sound ", a poster or "exclusive" screensavers. Sure you may get a few naive Indy fans or people that didn't have the original c.d.'s to buy them ,but that would not include me,or a vast number of film music fans that want these scores in an expanded form,especially Temple of Doom. It is a shame that such masterpieces may be condemned to rot for eternity in studio vaults because of lack of initiative or laziness. Of the potential people who would buy such a box set, a large number are film music fans and John Williams fans ,and the previously unreleased music in Temple of Doom and Last Crusade represents the ultimate holy grail of film music ,desperately awaited for over 20 years. It would be a terrible tragedy that this set be marketed at "joe casual public" who vaguely remember they liked the "Raiders March" and might pick it up while buying their DVD copies of the film and weekly supply of Doritos . Also, including the just released Crystal Skull soundtrack in the box set seems straight out of the Lucasfilm school of marketing of treating fans like idiots and getting them to buy the same thing over and over by any means possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I have heard of your plans to re-release the Indiana Jones soundtracks and I am afraid that you will take the cheapest and most cost effective route possible ,meaning a straight re-issue of the original soundtracks with no previously unreleased music but with marketting gimmicks like a nice box ,"re-mastered sound " or "exclusive" screensavers. Sure you may get a few naive Indy fans or people that didn't have the original c.d.'s to buy them ,but a vast number of film music fans want these scores in an expanded form,especially Temple of Doom. It is a shame that such masterpieces may be condemned to rot for etenity in studio vaults . Of the potential people who would buy such a box set, a large number are film music fans and John Williams fans ,and the previously unreleased music in Temple of Doom and Last Crusade has represented the ultimate holy grail of film music for the last 20 years. It would be a terrible tragedy that this set be marketted at "joe casual public" who vaguely remember they liked the "Raiders March" and might pick it up while buying their Blue Ray copies of the film.I don't think they will take this letter seriously. Politely say that you are very interested in Indiana Jones soundtracks but that you already have the original releases and you very much want to buy them again but only if additional music is included. Calling them cheap won't do any good. You are insulting them and embarrassing us (other Indy/JW fans).I also sent an email to the store section of indianajones.com asking about the soundtracks for the first three films and where I can buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'd make it somewhat... more polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I dunno,I have a feeling they need to be told in a blunt manner.because obviously they haven't got the message yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I dunno,I have a feeling they need to be told in a blunt manner.because obviously they haven't got the message yetBlunt doesn't necessarily mean rude:"I, and many other film score fans, want expanded Indiana Jones soundtracks. Many of us already have the original releases and do not want to buy the same thing all over again." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 that's why I posted it here .i want to see how other people would approach thissurely a mix of "polite" letters and a few rude ones that really drive the point home might get their attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I think you should use a spellchecker and also try to write shorter sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 It's like some bad mucus I have to get off my chest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speats 0 Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 working on my email I have heard of your plans to re-release the Indiana Jones soundtracks and I am afraid that you will take the cheapest and most cost effective route possible ,meaning straight re-issues of the original soundtracks with no previously unreleased music but with marketing gimmicks like a nice box ,"re-mastered sound " or "exclusive" screensavers. Sure you may get a few naive Indy fans or people that didn't have the original c.d.'s to buy them ,but that would not include me,or a vast number of film music fans that want these scores in an expanded form,especially Temple of Doom. It is a shame that such masterpieces may be condemned to rot for eternity in studio vaults because of lack of initiative or laziness. Of the potential people who would buy such a box set, a large number are film music fans and John Williams fans ,and the previously unreleased music in Temple of Doom and Last Crusade represents the ultimate holy grail of film music ,desperately awaited for over 20 years. It would be a terrible tragedy that this set be marketed at "joe casual public" who vaguely remember they liked the "Raiders March" and might pick it up while buying their DVD copies of the film and weekly supply of DoritosWell put. I also would rather see expanded soundtracks than a gimmicky boxed set in lieu of unreleased material. Temple of Doom is a perfect example as the original CD issue was put out on Polydor over 20 years ago and hasn't been available since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 You catch more flies with honey, believe me. They will not take your letter seriously if you say stuff like "joe public" and "holy grail". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 They will not take your letter seriously if you say stuff like "joe public"I could say "Star Wars nerd collector who bought every paint variation of the same action figure" .That is the other sub group Lucasfilm is aiming at to buy the same thing over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I could say "Star Wars nerd collector who bought every paint variation of the same action figure" .That is the other sub group Lucasfilm is aiming at to buy the same thing over and over again.I call that aggressive negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I would re-type that letter and make it sound like a 40 year old man wrote it. Not some 18-21 bitter fanboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 King Mark is not that old.Or at least he wasnt when i joined the forums Man, so many years since... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 kingmark.. your mail sounds as if the concord music group is just a bunch of evil plotters I would give it a second thought before writing it to them... and how is that Indy Cpmplete Score Petitition going? why not send this too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 But that 's what their doing ,right? HA! Screw unreleased music, lets throw in special TRADING CARDS! BUY MULTIPLE SETS TO COLLECT THEM ALL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Well, KM, you really need to be polite. Don't accuse them of being lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I have heard of your plans to re-release the Indiana Jones soundtracks and I would be terribly disappointed if they turn out to be only straight re-issues of the old soundtracks with no previously unreleased music. Of the potential people who would buy such a box set, a large number are film music fans and John Williams fans ,and the previously unreleased music in Temple of Doom and Last Crusade represents the ultimate in film music ,desperately awaited for more than 20 years by fans all over the world. It is a shame that such masterpieces may be condemned to deteriorate forever in studio vaults and it would be a lost opportunity that this set was simply marketed at the casual listener and contain no previously unreleased material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 that is much nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 "Rot for eternity" and "terrible tragedy" are still pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Dear Concord Music Group,I've heard the soundtracks to Raiders Of The Lost Ark and its sequels Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom and The Last Crusade are to be re-released by your record label this Fall. However as I understand it, they will be straight re-issues of the previous album releases, packed along with the Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull album. This is disheartening to say the least. As an avid listener of John Williams' music, I already own the soundtrack albums that are apparently due for re-release.The scores for The Last Crusade and Temple Of Doom are criminally incomplete on CD, and I have anxiously awaited an extended release. I'm grateful your label gave us a CD of the latest Indiana Jones score with a nearly 80 minute running time. However, I can't help but feel that if you're to re-release the albums for the previous three films along with the latest CD in some kind of set (as is rumored), you'll be alienating fans. The Crystal Skull soundtrack is in print and certainly many fans new and old will have purchased it by the time it's repacked in a deluxe set with the other scores.I think I speak for many fans when I say that I'd simply prefer expanded releases of the first three Indiana Jones scores. They are long overdue. But I would honestly buy any kind of set if it included unreleased music from the first three scores. Temple Of Doom's current album only runs for around 40 minutes! Surely, additional music could be presented. It seems like these will never see the light of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I think I'll revert to my original version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Somewhere in there you need to put "the Saviour of film score humanity" and "The Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 KM, just so you know, the spaces goes after the comma, not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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