JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 its a shame you children don't get proper training. You should grow up watching the really old films, the black and white movies of the 30's and 40's, gaining interest to watch those of the 50's and 60's, finally graduating to the 70's and 80's before seeing the decline in the last 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 13 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 its a shame you children don't get proper training. You should grow up watching the really old films, the black and white movies of the 30's and 40's, gaining interest to watch those of the 50's and 60's, finally graduating to the 70's and 80's before seeing the decline in the last 10 yearsActually, I tried watching Citizen Kane when I was something like 11 or 12 and then I didn't get anything from it. I didn't understand why everyone thought it's so special and extraoridinary. Nothing special. Then I watched it like 10 years later and finally managed to see the greatness of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Sometimes I forget my age and the fact that there are young ones here who are just begining their quest into film music.I guess I spent too much time as a young child/teenager following movies and composers, on top of everything else I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 yes but they seem so ignorant of the movies of the past, while most of the older people here were knowledgable then as they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I don't care much for older movies, the classics as you describe them. I bought Casablanca when I was a lot younger because, well, it's a classic. I was bored to hell with it. Sure it has amazing dialogue, but still, I don't find those classic black and white films enjoyable. Probably why I will never buy Gone With The Wind or Citizen Cane.I'm happy with today's age of movies, because they actually carry some emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 spoke with true ignorance.imagine that movies of the past not having emotion.its not all your fault though, they don't show alot of the old movies like they used to, now they run the same movie 3 or 4 times in a row.but just for the record, Gone With the Wind, Citizen Kane, Casabalanca, and the Wizard of Oz are not the only old movies. Not by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm not being ignorant. I know they are classics, and a lot of them are amazing movies. The Third Man is definitely one of the best of that age, and don't think I'm dismissing all of Hitchcock's genius. I just find a lot of them boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Sometimes I forget my age and the fact that there are young ones here who are just begining their quest into film music.I guess I spent too much time as a young child/teenager following movies and composers, on top of everything else I did. Ditto, and I'm not exactly ready to push up the daisies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 yes but they seem so ignorant of the movies of the past, while most of the older people here were knowledgable then as they are now.But were you knowledgable, at 19, of the movies that were made 40 years before you were born?By the way, Buster Keaton has been a hero of mine since like 12 or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm not being ignorant. I know they are classics, and a lot of them are amazing movies. The Third Man is definitely one of the best of that age, and don't think I'm dismissing all of Hitchcock's genius. I just find a lot of them boring.yes you are Koray, its not an insult, I'm ignorant on foreign films, I'm ignorant of more than I'm not. Hell Alex will tell you I'm stupid.but there are other films not by Hitchcock that are great, maybe your generation finds them too slow, I don't know but honestly if you want emotion then watch some old melodramas.You want emotion try Dark Victory, or Random Harvest. Betty Davis and Greer Garson give you emotion, and take it from you.And if you want to laugh, try the 1942 version of The Man Who Came to Dinner, with Betty Davis and Monte Wooley.Its absolutely hysterical, as is Cary Grant's Arsenic and Old Lace. Believe it or not comedy isn't new, and it doesn't have to be vulgar to be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 but still, I don't find those classic black and white films enjoyable. Probably why I will never buy Gone With The Wind.Uhh that's in color......But were you knowledgable, at 19, of the movies that were made 40 years before you were born?By the way, Buster Keaton has been a hero of mine since like 12 or so At age 8 I was, especially anything that was Horror, Sci-Fi or fantasy. I can remember being interested in movies as far back as I can recall.And I too love Buster Keaton, I can remember watching his films when I was 5. Charlie Chaplin was another favorite of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 But were you knowledgable, at 19, of the movies that were made 40 years before you were born?By the way, Buster Keaton has been a hero of mine since like 12 or so Yep. And good one on Keaton. I think it's what Mark said earlier. Since I was about thirteen, I started to really get into a wide range of films, which meant discovering movies like CASABLANCA, like KANE, people like Joan Crawford, Robert Mitchum, 30s and 40s horror, the 50s SF explosion. So much so that I freely admit that I'm a grumpy old man (at nearly 30) that is open to knew things but at the same time doesn't seem to like a whole lot of things made after the mid-80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Wow. How did you people have time for anything else?and it doesn't have to be vulgar to be funny.Couldn't agree with you more, and I will check into the movies you listed. I am completely open to old movies, just ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I don't seem to be that interested in older movies as well, yet I wouldn't dream about calling them boring because they most certainly aren't.Loads of today's movies have genuinely fake emotions. I like films that have emotions but aren't so incredibly self- indulgent about them. That's one of the major points why the Star Wars prequels stink enormously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I was a major film geek as a little kid. I can remember my friends practically dragging me outside to play when I was inside watching some movie or listening to my soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 5 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Check out SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS. That's my favourite "old" movie.I think probably some of it has to do with the way these things are presented to us. Now, there's such an overload in the way you can watch movies, VHS, DVD, TV, cable, PPV, the internet, even your mobile phone. Probably similar to Mark, I grew up as a child loving SF because they used to show it at dinnertime on BBC 2 in the 80s, in a season that ran the gamut from BATTLESTAR GALACTICA and BUCK ROGERS to THIS ISLAND EARTH, THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL and THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING MAN. Back then, VHS even was still pretty rare (with retail VHS movies costing £80 a pop) so TV or the theater was the only real option to see these things, until the video rental market (especially in our small town) really kicked into touch in the mid-80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 yes but they seem so ignorant of the movies of the past, while most of the older people here were knowledgable then as they are now.But were you knowledgable, at 19, of the movies that were made 40 years before you were born?By the way, Buster Keaton has been a hero of mine since like 12 or so yes Colin I was. At 19, I could tell you every Universal Horror movie, I'd seen hundreds of black and white films and color too from 40 years earlier. I'd seen many silent films and the serials. I have a love for old grade b horror and mystery films. I'd seen every Basil Rathbone Sherlock Holmes film. I was a geek long ago. Its always a treasure to see an old movie to me. Even some of the bad ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I think probably some of it has to do with the way these things are presented to us. Now, there's such an overload in the way you can watch movies, VHS, DVD, TV, cable, PPV, the internet, even your mobile phone.Good point.Movies have become such a throw-away item to many people.Sad, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I still can't beleive that someone hasn't started a black and white channel on tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'm not being ignorant. I know they are classics, and a lot of them are amazing movies. The Third Man is definitely one of the best of that age, and don't think I'm dismissing all of Hitchcock's genius. I just find a lot of them boring.yes you are Koray, its not an insult, I'm ignorant on foreign films, I'm ignorant of more than I'm not. Hell Alex will tell you I'm stupid.but there are other films not by Hitchcock that are great, maybe your generation finds them too slow, I don't know but honestly if you want emotion then watch some old melodramas.You want emotion try Dark Victory, or Random Harvest. Betty Davis and Greer Garson give you emotion, and take it from you.And if you want to laugh, try the 1942 version of The Man Who Came to Dinner, with Betty Davis and Monte Wooley.Its absolutely hysterical, as is Cary Grant's Arsenic and Old Lace. Believe it or not comedy isn't new, and it doesn't have to be vulgar to be funny.It's more of a generation thing. As for comedy, I know it doesn't have to be vulgar to be funny. Give me anything by Zucker, Abrahams, or Proft over Apatow any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro 57 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Wait...wasn't this thread about JNH and Hans Zimmer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Yes it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 480 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Welcome to JWFan.net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 To at least add a flavour of Zimmer again, I just listened to a few tracks of Curse Of The Black Pearl again, and I like what Klaus Badelt did with the themes alot better than Zimmer's later efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Wait...wasn't this thread about JNH and Hans Zimmer??yes but it turned into a much more interesting thread, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 did anyone who attended the signing at NYC ask Zimmer personally whether he really is retiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Wait...wasn't this thread about JNH and Hans Zimmer??Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 did anyone who attended the signing at NYC ask Zimmer personally whether he really is retiring?I didn't. Why would he be retiring? He's just taking a year off to do some concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Damn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,759 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 retiring, why???He's not written any music in years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 55 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 The last good score he did was in 1989 and written at 19mph I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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