Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Every few days I will post a thread on a random score from my collection that we can discuss and rate. I made a playlist on my computer with one track of each score I've got, so by using the random play option, I'll be able to post a truly random score each time. Hopefully this will allow us to discuss some scores that would otherwise never be discussed. Also we can record the rating so that we can create a full list of the ratings given to scores by JWFan.com.Today's score is Saving Private Ryan by John Williams. Are you familiar with it? What do you like about it? What don't you like about it? How do do you think it works in the film? What are your favourite tracks?So far JWFan has rated:See Soundtrack Ratings by JWFan.com.This web page contains the ratings from all my previous polls as well as those of Blumenkohl's.Final ratings are converted to a 1-10 rating for both rating systems so that they can be compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dust Collector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dust CollectorIndeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 2 stars, and that is just for "Hymn to the Fallen," a fantastic track. The rest of the score is a snoozer, as Alex and KM said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 390 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 One of Williams's very finest scores, for one of Spielberg's finest films, and one of the greatest film scores of all time.I LOVE it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 3.5.Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dust CollectorIndeed.Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 I like parts of this score, but it's not a favourite of mine. That said, it does it's job as well as any other JW score; along with the images on screen, there are moments in this score which can be very moving, therefore I give it 4 out of 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 It is a film score.And Miguel has it in very high regard. It is good then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 5! 5! 5!This is probably my favorite film score. It's a dust collector for those who seek only fanfares and perceptible motifs. For me (and many others), this is one of the finest dramatic approaches in film history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 4/5I find it a very emotional score, topped off with the amazing Hymn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 3. It *is* a dust collector, but it's also quite good when I actually listen to it. The movie is overscored though. And similar brass writing can actually be head in The Wind and the Lion, in a less dust-collecting context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 I give it a 4.5, Williams should have walked away with the Oscar for this one. It does what a film score is supposed to do and that's work within the context of the film.Perhaps it is a bit over scored but the music doesn't take you away from the film and the scenes that didn't need music are not scored. Hymn to the Fallen is a beautiful piece of music that brings a lump to my throat whenever I listen to it.Of course it's not Harry Potter, Star Wars or IJ so it becomes a dust collector for many I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 5. A true treasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Strictly speaking, it actually is a dust collector. I haven't touched the physical CD in years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 HTTF is a good piece. Some tracks are boring, some are enjoyable. "Omaha Beach" is very underrated. In the film it works well. 3.5 stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 3.5 for HTTF alone. The rest is a bore on CD, though excellent on film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 I soured on this score awhile back not because it's a "snoozer" -- it's not, although it can become tiresome in its own way -- but because as a portrait of war it pales next to Zimmer & Co.'s The Thin Red Line. Two equally valid approaches, perhaps (to two very different films), but when it comes to this general subject matter, I have to go with Zimmer's grittier and grimmer vision over a respectful and finally tedious solemnity that at times treads dangerously close to mushy Americana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 20, 2008 Author Share Posted July 20, 2008 I am not familiar with this score, outside of Hymn to the Fallen. What I've heard to sounds good, but not really interesting as a listening experience on its own. Worked great in the film though. I'll go with the "I'm not familiar with this score" option though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 5This would place in Williams's Top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 4 stars. It's quite good, and "Hymn to the Fallen" rules. I'm not surprised that the votes have been polarized though, it is practically the definition of Williams minimalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Four stars from me. I haven't listened to it in a year or so, and my memory of the score (apart from the impressively awesome "Hymn to theFallen") isn't good enough for me to have much of an opinion on it. So the four stars is basically for "Hymn to the Fallen" alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 4. Omaha Beach is my favorite track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 2.5 for me. It's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odnurega1 0 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I voted 4 stars. On an alternate and totally unrelated subject, what happened to "Josh500"? I was thinking it was odd, there not being that many polls. If I missed something, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yeah, I was begging to wonder what happened to him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Shhhhhh...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I'm getting the hunch that he's on forced vacation. For what reason, I do not know. Probably for talking back to the moderators far too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 So he just vanished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 The truth must be revealed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 if he shows up because of your constant mentioning of him, so help me god I will hunt you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odnurega1 0 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 if he shows up because of your constant mentioning of him, so help me god I will hunt you down.Hey Man, I mentioned him once. You ain't huntin me down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 maybe josh500 just was around for the Indy4 crazewe still have his half brother,joey250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 1 star, right up there with terminal and munich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 sorry you don't agree Koray but you think Zimmer's batman begins again score is good, and its not.Hymn the the fallen is the most saccahrin piece of work that John has written, truly for the diabetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 sorry you don't agree Koray but you think Zimmer's batman begins again score is good, and its not.Hymn the the fallen is the most saccahrin piece of work that John has written, truly for the diabetic.You are wrong on all counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 sorry BB, Im quite right, its one of JW's worst scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Joe, you blame Jerry's cancer for the poor quality of his last few years.What's Johnnies excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I refuse to blaim Goldsmith's illness for his "decline".But there is another thing, it's called old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I don't know Stefan, but I only blame the cancer for Jerry's Nemesis score, I'm not so familiar with his other works towards the end.Strangely he seemed more inspired by the Lost World than SPR which is a better movie by far, though not a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 1 star, right up there with terminalWhat's not to like in The Terminal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odnurega1 0 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Wall-E- A Great, fun score.The Dark Knight- love it. After seeing the film, and hearing "Why So Serious?" in context, it has become my favorite track.Careful, don't let people hear that you like the Dark Knight score, they'll tell you how wrong you are. (And by the way -- you aren't wrong. It's flipping terrific.)1 star, right up there with terminalWhat's not to like in The Terminal?Seriously! I like The Terminal. And not everyone agrees that JW's scores are declining in his later years. All one has to do is listen to Memoirs of a Geisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 The Terminal has a fun main theme but at times the rest of the score feels like Williams on autopilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacius 7 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Every now and again Williams writes a score that it is so so. But there is always one track that blows me away so much so that I love the soundtrack just for that one track. This is one of those scores 4.5 from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 sorry BB, Im quite right, its one of JW's worst scores.Give me Saving Private Ryan over John Goldfarb, How To Steal A Million, Penelope, The River, SpaceCamp, Midway, The Poseidon Adventure, Diamond Head, and Not With My Wife You Don't any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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