JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 sorry but you think Batman Begins Again is a great score, so I take what you see with little regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 sorry but you think Saving Private Ryan is a terrible score, so I take what you see with little regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 even the JW fans once rated it the 18th best Steven Spielberg film score, hmmmm, collectively the group maybe smarter than I give credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 The Terminal has a fun main theme but at times the rest of the score feels like Williams on autopilot.Even Jazz Autographs? It probably is my fav Williams love theme ever. fuhrsy31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 For a grade C Williams score, it's one of his best. 3.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi 0 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 If you think this is a bad score you need to get your hearing fixed.It takes maturity to understand this music and subject matter.Omaha Beach is an absolutely perfect track.For me this is in the top ten of all time scored scenes, he hit it right on the head.Also stealing from Nimrod a bit.blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I've been listening to "Omaha Beach" a lot lately, and I really dig it. The cue has really grown on me, and I am hoping that the same will wring true for the rest of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 4.5 stars. This was a real return to form for John Williams, with cues like Wade's Death being the best underscore he'd written in years. The score edits and retracks made the in film presentation suffer, but on album, we can hear what was intended, and we can match it to image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I am unfamiliar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 sorry but you think Batman Begins Again is a great score, so I take what you see with little regardheh, i find that ironical after you said POTC is a guilty pleasure of yoursAnd that i was more or less over-analised when i said what you said to Koray to you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The Terminal has a fun main theme but at times the rest of the score feels like Williams on autopilot.So THIS is where Luke got his comment about The Mummy and Goldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The Terminal has a fun main theme but at times the rest of the score feels like Williams on autopilot.So THIS is where Luke got his comment about The Mummy and Goldsmith. No not really, that post is a year old in a thread that has been re-activated today...Mark is not the only to say there are autopilot scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 autopilot scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Well i just wanted to clarify that I was not nitpicking Mark with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,323 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 This Dutch song (very famous in Holland and Belgium) by the late Ramses Shaffy originates from 1972 and it strongly reminds me of Saving Private Ryan's main theme. They're not the same notes but the feeling it evokes is exactly the same. Alex #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 Holy crap! Blast from the past, this thread is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: This Dutch song (very famous in Holland and Belgium) by the late Ramses Shaffy originates from 1972 and it strongly reminds me of Saving Private Ryan's main theme. They're not the same notes but the feeling it evokes is exactly the same. Alex I kind of see what you mean. For what is often seen as a 70's protest song it is actually surprisingly "anthemic", for lack of a better word. Good song too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,323 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Good song too! I normally don't like the Dutch (or Flemish) language in songs but Ramses is an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,901 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 SPR is a fantastic film and fantastic score. Not because it has so many wonderfully memorable tunes but because the score so perfectly fits the story and the subtext. This is JW's equivalent of Jerry Goldsmith's Patton. For those of you who haven't seen that masterpiece, it is a 3 hour war film that basically encapsulates all elements of what makes a war film great. Jerry's score only had around 30 minutes of music so the film is almost entirely unscored. The music though has three elements. The hymn like religious, the trumpet fanfare echoplex (which JG would later reuse in Alien) representing Patton's belief in reincarnation, and the martial representing the military aspects. So with the music JG encapsulated the character in multiple dimensions with minimal notes. That is effectively what JW did with SPR. The drama is almost entirely unscored. The subtext is where the score lies and this was JW at his most subdued. He really nailed it at an emotional and sub-textual level and defined a generation of war movie scores such as band of brothers and The Thin Red Line where the score avoided any reference to battle and focused on the personal and psychological aspects of war. At the time, that was very innovative. @JoeinAR have you seen Patton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I listen to "Finding Private Ryan" quite often. "Hymn to the Fallen" not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I like the brass chorale moment in the Hymn. Oddly though I prefer one of those compilation performance versions of that moment, where the brass sounds much richer. Love the violins during the climax as well, great counterpoint that's playful without at all going against the reverence of the piece. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,842 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 SPR has some amazing passages, especially the opening of the film and Omaha Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,637 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 It's a top-10 Williams score. One of my all-time favorite scores. Not sure I need the reprise of HTTF, but otherwise it is very strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,451 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I REALLY disliked SPR (the score -- I loved the movie!) when it first came out. I was 20 years old, and this was smack in the middle of my early Williams exploration. I was discovering his older works while also keeping up with what came out at the time. So the "slowness" and suggestive nature of this was the antithesis of the more exuberant Williams from the past that I was discovering and enjoying. Of course, these days -- as an old and mellowed man -- I really like it. In fact, it's the very thing I disliked as a youngster, I now fully appreciate. So you can definitely say it's a score that grows on you. In fact, when it comes to Williams, I seem to have done a complete 180. I still love the STAR WARSes and SUPERMANs and HOME ALONEs and what-have-you; they're part of my musical DNA, so to speak -- but my interest and enjoyment now primarily lie in either the obscure (especially the older stuff) or the more serene, laidback, textural, suggestive. Perhaps it's a natural evolution when you've obsessed over a composer for 25 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuhrsy31 18 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Hymn to the fallen may be the greatest composition by John Williams. If you can listen to this and not get emotional while thinking on the soldiers lost in the world wars then you are cold and heartless. airmanjerm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 And that's how a first post should be. Blunt and accusatory. Welcome to the party, pal. airmanjerm and fuhrsy31 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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