#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Koray, have you ever seen a grown man naked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 That's not too bad a track record. Lots of the greatest films were directed by people who later burnt out or completely lost it (Scott, Coppola, Lucas, etc.).I suppose. I still think Ridley Scott makes great films though. Gladiator being his best in recent years.Sir Wrigley burnt out after BLADE RUNNER. He hasn't made a decent movie since ALIEN.Koray, have you ever seen a grown man naked?He's more interested in leather-clad gladiators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I bet he also liked HANNI-BALLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 And WHITE SQUALL....ok I've gone too far there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Spielberg is an overrated director himself. He has maybe about 5 superb films, the rest are just great blockbusters.And that's called overated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Kora's choice of words are somewhat overrated at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Spielberg has made 6 masterpieces, IMO.Masterpieces: E.T., Raiders, ToD, LC, Jurassic Park, JawsGood - Near Masterpiece: Indy 4, CE3K, Catch Me If You Can, Minority Report, WotWOkay: Hook, A.I., Empire of the Sun, The Terminal, The Lost World, Bad: 1941Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 CE3K....near masterpiece?Jurassic Park....masterpiece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Spielberg is an overrated director himself. He has maybe about 5 superb films, the rest are just great blockbusters.And that's called overated?Well when you only have 3 outstanding movies out of 25, and everyone thinks you're one of the greatest directors of all time... yeah, that's overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Spielberg is an overrated director himself. He has maybe about 5 superb films, the rest are just great blockbusters.And that's called overated?Well when you only have 3 outstanding movies out of 25, and everyone thinks you're one of the greatest directors of all time... yeah, that's overrated.3?Lets see:Jaws, Close Encounters, Raiders of the Lost Ark, E.T., Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan.That's 6, by the least.And they say it about nolan and how many movies has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Who would you suggest is better then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Spielberg at his best is better than most other directors. That isn't overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Who would you suggest is better then?Sergio Leone, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Akira Kurosawa, maybe Martin Scorsese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Who would you suggest is better then?Stanley KubrickOh, I forgot A.I. is a masterpiece too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 But the largest amount of Hitchcock film also are not masterpieces.So you complaint about Spielberg goes for him as well.Both Kubrick and Leone were extremely low-output directors, so your choice of them is rather obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Spielberg is an overrated director himself. He has maybe about 5 superb films, the rest are just great blockbusters.And that's called overated?Well when you only have 3 outstanding movies out of 25, and everyone thinks you're one of the greatest directors of all time... yeah, that's overrated.You give Leone too much credit. Raiders Of The Lost Ark, E.T., CE3K, Jaws, Schindler's List, The Color Purple and possible Saving Private Ryan put him in elite status with any of the other great directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Who would you suggest is better then?Sergio Leone, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Akira Kurosawa, maybe Martin Scorsese.The problem with AH is that most of his films are all very similiar. He does not venture into different genres as much as Spielberg does (sorry Hitch).Having said that, Rear Window, Psycho, Vertigo, and possibly North by Northwest are all masterpieces, IMO. And he has made tons of other good films.I'm not familiar enough with the work of the others you mentioned to talk about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I suppose you can say Hictchcock was the best director at his genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 You give Leone too much credit.True, he has 3 films that are generally considered to be masterpieces, and 2 of them were Spaghetti Westerns.They are brilliant though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I don't give Leone enough credit. He is the greatest director of all time. I consider Spielberg's masterpieces to be Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, and Munich. I know pretty much all of you here hate Munich both film and score, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I might put Kurosawa as the greatest.You give Leone too much credit.True, he has 3 films that are generally considered to be masterpieces, and 2 of them were Spaghetti Westerns.They are brilliant though.That's even debatable.Although they are very good films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I don't give Leone enough credit. He is the greatest director of all time. I consider Spielberg's masterpieces to be Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, and Munich. I know pretty much all of you here hate Munich both film and score, but whatever.Not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Once Upon A Time In The West.The Good, The Bad And The UglyOnce Upon A Time In AmericaA Fistful Of DollarsFor A Few Dollars MoreDuck, You SuckerThen you have The Colossus Of Rhodes. So... 6 out of 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Only the first 3 are considered master pieces.Also most of his films were westerns, done in the same style, so he's not very versatile.He's very good, he's very influential, but he's not the best all-out-director ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Also most of his films were westerns, done in the same style, so he's not very versatile.So? Most directors only direct in 1 style.Hitchcock, Scorsese, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Leone. All pretty much 1 style of filmmaking. Spielberg is barely more versatile. I could say most of his movies are just summer blockbusters. You have the sci-fi Spielberg and the historical Spielberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Have you even seen all of Spielberg's movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Who would you suggest is better then?Sergio Leone, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock, Akira Kurosawa, maybe Martin Scorsese.The problem with AH is that most of his films are all very similiar. He does not venture into different genres as much as Spielberg does (sorry Hitch).Having said that, Rear Window, Psycho, Vertigo, and possibly North by Northwest are all masterpieces, IMO. And he has made tons of other good films.I'm shocked you managed to list 4 of my movies. What you mean "possibly"? All my movies are masterpieces with the exception of some home movies I made in the bedroom. Lighting wasn't great in some shots. And Bumstead didn't make the room very big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 That is rubbish, at least Spielberg has done a fairly large variety of genres. And to some extent adopted his style to fit those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 That is rubbish, at least Spielberg has done a fairly large variety of genres. And to some extent adopted his style to fit those.He hasn't done a western yet. I'm still waiting to see fatty Richard Dreyfuss on a horse. I'd pity the poor horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksparrow900 32 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I Think The Godfather is on my top list of movies. I actually read The Godfather and the two books written in between the movies, once you read the books you look at the film in a different light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I would have loved for Spielberg to do a classic western. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Have you even seen all of Spielberg's movies?All but The Color Purple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 One Williams score I truly hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I hate its inexistence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 The rejected Williams score is worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 No wonder it wasn't used in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 It's when threads turns to sh*t like this that I yearn for humble comforts of a Turkish prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Why on earth would this be the greatest movie of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Why should it not be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Why should it not be?That's not an answer. But in my view a maffia movie can never be the greatest movie of all time...too much violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 A movie's subject should have no bearing whatsoever on its status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I agree.also, the movie really is that that violent, not compared to everything that came after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 It's when threads turns to sh*t like this that I yearn for humble comforts of a Turkish prison.I'm Turkish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Why am I not surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 What is that supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I know a lot of Turks.let's just keep it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Why should it not be?That's not an answer. But in my view a maffia movie can never be the greatest movie of all time...too much violence.It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 It's when threads turns to sh*t like this that I yearn for humble comforts of a Turkish prison.Do you like movies about Gladiators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Also most of his films were westerns, done in the same style, so he's not very versatile.So? Most directors only direct in 1 style.Hitchcock, Scorsese, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Leone. All pretty much 1 style of filmmaking. Spielberg is barely more versatile. I could say most of his movies are just summer blockbusters. You have the sci-fi Spielberg and the historical SpielbergUm...so where excactly does that leave Raiders of the Lost Ark, Temple of Doom, Last Crusade, 1941, Jaws, Duel, The Terminal, The Lost World, Hook, Always, Twilight Zone: The Movie...Besides, most of his films are made very differently, even if they're of the same genre. Take Spielberg's sci-fi films:War of the WorldsMinority ReportA.I. Artificial IntelligenceE.T. The Extra TerrestrialClose Encounters of the Third KindThey're all sci-fi, but they're all worlds apart (no pun intended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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