Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 It very much depends on how one does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Never had a problem with CDs either but I only touch the edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: >shrug< I've never had any problems You should lok at them under a light, you might get a fright. Even "soft" cloths cause scratching. I've learnt this the hard way. 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: It very much depends on how one does it. Not really. The highly polished surface of an optical media disc is extremely susceptible to scratches. Even Blu-ray discs aren't immune, although their "protective" coatings are a bit more resilient than CDs and DVDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Not really. The highly polished surface of an optical media disc is extremely suceptible to scratches. I agree that CDs are extremely susceptible to scratches. However, through trials and errors, I've found a way to do the cleaning that usually doesn't leave any visible scratches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I've found a way to do the cleaning that usually doesn't leave any visible scratches. You should patent it and package it and slap it on a plastic lunchbox and sell it! *bangs hand on table* Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: You should patent it and sell it I'll give it to you for free. Soak the CD under running water, not much warmer than body temperature. Spray on cleaning solution for glasses (a mild detergent). Mechanically wash the CD by moving your finger radially outwards. Clean, wet skin doesn't leave scratches. Rinse the CD under running water, not much warmer than body temperature. Shake the CD to get rid of most of the water. Remove the remaining water drops from the CD. Do not wipe! Instead, use a piece of dry soft cotton cloth or paper tissue that doesn't leave residues (like Torky if you have that brand) and lightly press it onto the CD surface. The water will be quickly absorbed. If there's still some stains left, you can use a soft, lightly moisturized cotton cloth, and wipe radially. However, wiping with a cloth always has the risk of creating small scratches, but it's better than wiping with a paper tissue. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I might try this with a DVD that I'm trying to rip to have in my Plex library. I have tried every optical drive and software available to me, but it won't rip. Plays fine, just won't rip. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, AC1 said: Never had a problem with CDs either but I only touch the edges. Is that you, Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I welcome the death of physical media, but only as long as the digital media I buy involves me taking ownership of the actual files to do what I wish with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 What about noisy watermarks? 3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I welcome the death of physical media That's not a nice thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's not a nice thing to say. Not only is it not nice, as a music fan, I also don't understand why one would wish LPs or CDs to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It's the little omen inside Stu that pops out now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 You Should Listen to CDs - If vinyl is for hipsters and streaming is for everyone else, maybe the forgotten format is for you. TSMefford and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 That article has some valid points, but even though we're losing the CD, we don't lose the digital album and associated purchasing decisions. When I discover a new album and initially only like one or two tracks, there's always a part of me that wants to like the rest of the album, and there's a commercially released library album for which I'm going through that exact process right now. I end up doing what the author suggests - digging away at those other tracks and trying to tune my mind into liking them more. My last post in here generally was a decade ago, and really my stance is the same - CDs are a highly inefficient and limiting format by which to distribute music, which collectors love because it gives them something pretty to look at. I just don't care about any of that any more. Hence the 'No CD = no sale' brigade at FSM does my head in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 10/11/2011 at 5:50 AM, Grace Under Pressure said: explain what is the difference between 5.1 music, and 2.0 music in 3 sentences. One has 5 channels of music. One has 2 channels of music. Sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 On 13/10/2020 at 10:53 PM, AC1 said: Not only is it not nice, as a music fan, I also don't understand why one would wish LPs or CDs to die. Consider the source..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Richard Penna said: CDs are a highly inefficient and limiting format by which to distribute music, which collectors love because it gives them something pretty to look at. I just don't care about any of that any more. Are you sure you're not talking about vinyl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted December 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Richard Penna said: That article has some valid points, but even though we're losing the CD, we don't lose the digital album and associated purchasing decisions. When I discover a new album and initially only like one or two tracks, there's always a part of me that wants to like the rest of the album, and there's a commercially released library album for which I'm going through that exact process right now. I end up doing what the author suggests - digging away at those other tracks and trying to tune my mind into liking them more. My last post in here generally was a decade ago, and really my stance is the same - CDs are a highly inefficient and limiting format by which to distribute music, which collectors love because it gives them something pretty to look at. I just don't care about any of that any more. Hence the 'No CD = no sale' brigade at FSM does my head in. Vinyl is more inefficient - more upkeep and is essentially damaged with every play. I understand the convenience which comes with a digital release, but I'm very much of the mind that you don't have the same sense of ownership as you would a physical album (CD, Cassette, Vinyl etc.). For many people that's important. I think services like Spotify have seriously damaged the experience of listening to albums, and listening to score albums where the music represents a narrative. bruce marshall, enderdrag64, Holko and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted December 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2021 ** one last thing to add: Spotify, iTunes etc. don't have nearly a comprehensive digital archive as one would hope in the all-digital future, many scores and albums of other genres are not present. I own many CDs that contain such music and that's pretty much the only way to hear it. Holko, enderdrag64 and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 I'm actually buying CDs again, but only albums I really, really love. One okay track is fine, but otherwise I don't buy it physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 I prefer all the tracks to be at least OK. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: I'm actually buying CDs again, but only albums I really, really love. One okay track is fine, but otherwise I don't buy it physically. Me too. And I don't have to really love them. Just nice is already enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 11 hours ago, AC1 said: Are you sure you're not talking about vinyl? Well Vinyl obviously gives you the huge cover art, but no, I'm talking about CDs and particularly the elaborate boxes, booklets, etc. 10 hours ago, Arpy said: I think services like Spotify have seriously damaged the experience of listening to albums, and listening to score albums where the music represents a narrative. I'd massively disagree with that - you're still listening to the album and getting a narrative; you just don't need to wait for it and no one has to pay to press any plastic discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Vinyl albums outsold CDs in US for first time in 30 years in 2021 (NME) and 1 Out of Every 3 Albums Sold in the US in 2021 Were Vinyl LPs (Billboard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Maybe I just haven't had enough coffee yet, but how can both those things be true? If vinyl outsold CDs, wouldn't that mean 2 out of 3 albums sold were vinyl? Or is the first saying vinyl outsold CD by dollar amount, not units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 What about digital albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 That's not what we're discussing right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Well, the title of the second article says nothing about being constrained to physical albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Ahhh, you're right! I get it now - I knew I hadn't had enough coffee yet! Here's more info "Vinyl album sales comprised 38.3% of all album sales (physical and digital formats combined) in the U.S. in 2021 (41.72 million of 108.98 million)" https://www.celebnation.com/news_feed/1-out-of-every-3-albums-sold-in-the-us-in-2021-were-vinyl-lps/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I'm glad JWFaners aren't falling for the vinyl hype. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Some people here love vinyl! I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Vinyl isn't ideal for classical or orchestral work because of the compression (lack of dynamics). Also, you need a perfectly set up turntable before you even come close to CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Also interesting, digital album sales were the third-most popular format in 2021 for album purchases, and the segment fell 23.9% in 2021 to 26.19 million (down from 34.42 million in 2020). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 45 minutes ago, AC1 said: Vinyl isn't ideal for classical or orchestral work because of the compression (lack of dynamics). Also, you need a perfectly set up turntable before you even come close to CD. It's interesting that many people nowadays chose between vinyls which have the sonic disadvantages you described and streaming services which mostly offer inferior digital sound files. The CD which is the objectively best sounding source is somehow skipped. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Some people are against CDs because it's made of plastic. Probably the same people who are against meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Theoretically the best format is SA-CD (DSD). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 What about bluray audio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What about bluray audio? Blu-ray is still PCM. DSD is superior to PCM, which is a technology of more than 40 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 It's just a different way of encoding the signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,242 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Some people are against CDs because it's made of plastic. Probably the same people who are against meat. Uncompressed digital files for me, and vinyl for the artwork and physical experience ("reinvented" editions excluded). CDs look and feel cheap. And I also skip meat, but for entirely different reasons. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Agreed about the artwork of vinyl. But I think a digital file feels cheaper than a CD. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I guess it does because you're not physically receiving anything but you're also correct that you're also not asking for a box of plastic to be shipped across the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I love shipping stuff across the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's just a different way of encoding the signal. Different and superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Well, it requires better hardware to take advantage of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Ricard said: And I also skip meat, but for entirely different reasons. I hear you, bro'. Ever tried to insert a slice of smoked back into a CD player? Fucking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 CDs will get a major comeback when they figure out how to make it from bacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 CDs will make a comeback when the same vinylites recognise the hipster potential of a fragile jewel case and a booklet with pretty pictures in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 VHS will make it's comeback within the next few years. You heard it here first folks! Brando and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivatee 327 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I hope so. I have a TON of old home movies that I would like to convert to digital. I have a working VCR hooked up to my desktop via converter box and USB, but it would be nice to have a backup. There is a company building new VCRs with hdmi out, but they are ridiculously expensive. Goodwills and Salvation Army are the best place so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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