Lurker 5 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I just got back from the Hollywood Bowl, where John Williams was rehearsing with the orchestra. The only real surprise was a new arrangement of "Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra". This must have been an encore piece since it was not listed on the program. It's different than the album recording and the Boston Pops recording. It's now one of those Williams concert works that never seems to end, like "The Forest Battle" or "Parade of the Slave Children". There were other differences in orchestration as well.I won't be going back for the concert tonight or tomorrow, but maybe some handy YouTuber will.Neil Link to post Share on other sites
indy4 151 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Great! That and "The Map Room" are my favorite Indy cues, so I hope somebody records this! And I love the ending to "The Forest Battle" (and "Parade of Slave Children"). Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Barnsbury 5 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Cool, I'd love to hear this. Interesting to hear that he's returned to that style of ending a piece. Link to post Share on other sites
Delorean90 23 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 First "Marion's Theme" and the new version of "Irina's Theme," and now this? Wow. Has Indy IV gotten Williams pumped for this stuff? Interesting... Link to post Share on other sites
Red 72 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I wonder if it's as good as the other versions (probably not). Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Skywalker 701 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 First "Marion's Theme" and the new version of "Irina's Theme," and now this? Wow. Has Indy IV gotten Williams pumped for this stuff? Interesting...Impossible, Indy IV is just an uninspired piece of crap. So i have heard... Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus 4978 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Mark hasn't posted yet then... Link to post Share on other sites
indy4 151 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Hmm, according to the review on the main page, this was the program (no "Scherzo."):John opened with the National Anthem, played gloriously, and then segued immediately into three Olympics pieces: Bugler's Dream/Olympic Fanfare and Theme; A Song for World Peace; and Olympic Spirit, accompanied by clips from Olympic Games from Athens and backward (nothing from Beijing).Then, he brought out new and old favorites:Excerpts from Close Encounters of the Third Kind (with re-edited films clips)"Flight to Neverland" from HookThree PIeces from Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull:-The Adventures of Mutt-Irina's Theme (with film clips from dozens of old movies...the theme? - Smoky, myterious and dangerous women of cinema)-The Raider's March (with Indy scenes throughout)Intermission"Hooray for Hollywood"A Tribute to the Films of Stanley Donen-"You're all the World to Me" from Royal Wedding (with film)-"Bless Your Beautiful Hide" from Seven Brides for Seven Brothers-"I Like Myself" from It's Always Fair Weather-"The Worry Song" from Anchors Aweigh-"Singin' in the Rain" from Singin' in the RainTheme from SabrinaA Tribute to George Lucas and Steven Spielberg-Jaws - Star Wars - Raiders of the Lost Ark - E.T. the ExtraterrestrialTHREE ENCORESImperial MarchMarion's ThemeTheme from Superman Link to post Share on other sites
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10236 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 He lied to us! Link to post Share on other sites
pete 384 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I wonder if these new Indy concert pieces are a sign that Williams is going to make an Indy recording?? Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Buck 48 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Of course not. Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 9 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 I frankly don't see how JW could improve on the previosu concert arrangement. Does it really work, or is it more of an interesting exercise? Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 5 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 Hmm, according to the review on the main page, this was the program (no "Scherzo."):I did indicate that it was not on the program. And Williams has been known to do different encores on different evenings. I haven't seen a review yet of Saturday's concert. Perhaps it was performed there.I hope I've proven to be a pretty reliable source in the past.Neil Link to post Share on other sites
scissorhands 15 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 My guess is that he wanted to try out his new arrangement with a real orchestra (what a better chance to get your own music played by a world-class orchestra and... for free?). He did the same in the Tanglewood concerts (they rehearsed the scherzo but didn't play it in the concert). Link to post Share on other sites
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Is anyone else but me baffled by the crowd reaction to the Star Wars main title in the YouTube video? I think it's really really scary.Not to mention that I find it rude to other audience members who just want to listen to the music.This isn't a pop concert, or is it? Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 5 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 Is anyone else but me baffled by the crowd reaction to the Star Wars main title in the YouTube video? I think it's really really scary.Not to mention that I find it rude to other audience members who just want to listen to the music.This isn't a pop concert, or is it?That's the general reaction to the theme when he plays it at the Bowl. The gift shop even sells toy lightsabers. I'm reminded of Triumph the Insult Comic Dogs line about it looking like "a nerd circle jerk".Neil Link to post Share on other sites
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 That much is certain.Oh, and by the way, the way the Jaws motif leads into the Star Wars main title is spectacular! Link to post Share on other sites
artyjeffrey 20 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 That much is certain.Oh, and by the way, the way the Jaws motif leads into the Star Wars main title is spectacular!I can say that one of the greatest concert experiences of my life was the first time that, as an encore, he just busted out the Main Title from Star Wars, the crowd exploded, then shut up, and it wasn't part of a medley but was performed exactly as it was on the original soundtrack release. The whole freakin' kitchen sink.I also remember it because, no joke, at about the same time that the Star Destroyer would've crawled overhead in the film, some numbskull in an airplane flew overhead, close enough to be heard on my crappy bootleg later!This year was the first concert in quite a while that I missed. Just not into Hollywood musicals. Link to post Share on other sites
mafrayss 0 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Hi everybody !First of all, excuse me for my bad english !I just want to say that I've got the new arrangement of cherzo For Motorcycle and Orchestra in mp3 on my computer !In fact, It isn't a new arrangement, because this arrangement what recorded in 1999. Time : 2.50 minThe original soundtrack is 3.53 minutes long... Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 9 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I don't recall the times, but if it was recorded in 1999, I assume it is the arrangement already released on the Spielberg compilation, as well as The JW:Greatest Hits 1969-1999. Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Skywalker 701 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Neil said it was different arrangement, and i think we can assume he knows about what he is speaking of. Link to post Share on other sites
Morlock 9 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2616 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 yes. I assume it's different from the 1999 re-recorded one.As far as the new Marion's Theme is concerned,is it possible it was a 1981 arrangement that was never recorded? Link to post Share on other sites
scissorhands 15 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 What is the 1999 recording? Orchestra/conductor?As far as the new Marion's Theme is concerned,is it possible it was a 1981 arrangement that was never recorded?No, I remember they said in the broadcast it was an entirely new arrangement. Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Skywalker 701 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Wouldnt it be marvelous if Williams made something like with the Memoirs of a Geisha Itunes exclusive tracks with these new arrangements? Link to post Share on other sites
scissorhands 15 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 He doesn't do such things (I'm sure he's not even aware of the existence of something like iTunes), the publishers/distributors do. Link to post Share on other sites
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10236 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 If John Williams were to rearrange MOTG it would be for concert performances. Link to post Share on other sites
MissPadmé 17 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 He doesn't do such things (I'm sure he's not even aware of the existence of something like iTunes), the publishers/distributors do.well wasn't this Geisha stuff (Playing live at Jay Leno, Itunes etc.) just a big load of Johnny Williams Academy Award Advertisment?? Link to post Share on other sites
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10236 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Yes. Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Skywalker 701 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I would mind some KOTCS academy award advertisement Link to post Share on other sites
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 You would? Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Breathmask 456 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 He doesn't do such things (I'm sure he's not even aware of the existence of something like iTunes), the publishers/distributors do.well wasn't this Geisha stuff (Playing live at Jay Leno, Itunes etc.) just a big load of Johnny Williams Academy Award Advertisment??And yet Yo-Yo Ma got the bulk of the credit on Leno (and was probably the reason why it ended up on iTunes). Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 5 Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 In fact, It isn't a new arrangement, because this arrangement what recorded in 1999. Time : 2.50 minThat recording is from the 1991 album "The Spielberg/Williams Collaboration". This new arrangement runs longer than that recording.Neil Link to post Share on other sites
John McClane 1 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 What is the 1999 recording? Orchestra/conductor? The one from the Greatest Hits compilation. Go here and click on the 3rd one (which is the only one from 1999). Link to post Share on other sites
scissorhands 15 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Neil is right, that's the same recording as in Spielberg/Williams collaboration. As far as I know, that arrangement of the scherzo has been recorded only once. Link to post Share on other sites
MovieMusicMaestro 16 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I would not speculate on a new Indiana Jones recording by Williams. I rather think of the Scherzo as a new title in the Hal Leonard Signature Series. It might be that John did a few changes and wanted to hear them. He listened to his changes at Tanglewood, maybe redid some of them and listened to them again at the Hollywood Bowl. Link to post Share on other sites
BTR1701 50 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 It might be that John did a few changes and wanted to hear them. He listened to his changes at Tanglewood, maybe redid some of them and listened to them again at the Hollywood Bowl.Well, if that's all he wanted to do, he wouldn't have had to actually perform them during the concerts. One or two run-throughs at the rehearsal would have been enough. Link to post Share on other sites
scissorhands 15 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 He hasn't performed it in the concert...I agree with MovieMusicMaestro, in fact that was the point I wanted to make before. Link to post Share on other sites
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