Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 A cool interview - gotta love the guy: You can hear some X-Men:The Last Stand chorus (and origin of lyrics): KarolLol. Comes out with a Coors Light... what a character. Good stuff.Wives/husbands are the new patrons for composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Well, kudos to Kaya Savas for sharing those originally. I believe he also filmed that?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Yep. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I liked when he talked about putting lots of short tracks on albums to get around the choir usage rights.If you didn't watch the whole thing - a 2:30 track with 30 seconds of choir still counts as 2:30 worth of choir on the album. But isolate the choir bit in its own track and it only counts as 30 seconds. That explains why things like the Horton Hears A Who main titles are split into three tracks.Clever. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Same thing on the X3 album.Clever indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yeah, I love how he mentioned the film music community hated that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,739 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Love the Dr. Seussian singing of the Bourne Identity theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Well, kudos to Kaya Savas for sharing those originally. I believe he also filmed that?KarolWhy did we end up with the wrong Savas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 You know, I've met both Savas brothers and I must say they are both really great fellas. And my lord, they have exquisite taste in women. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I liked when he talked about putting lots of short tracks on albums to get around the choir usage rights.If you didn't watch the whole thing - a 2:30 track with 30 seconds of choir still counts as 2:30 worth of choir on the album. But isolate the choir bit in its own track and it only counts as 30 seconds. That explains why things like the Horton Hears A Who main titles are split into three tracks.Clever.It's clever, but it's also getting round a completely stupid rule. If the choir only sings for 30 seconds, it doesn't matter if the track they appear in is the length of the CD - the choir has given their services for 30 seconds. Why on earth should they be paid for an hour of singing?And yes, I love that he acknowledged that we hate that. The Ice Age 3 CD is a mess, and X-Men 3 seems to change tracks at the most random times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 New 40 minute interview?:http://www.filmmusicmedia.com/interviews/composerinterviewjohnpowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Very interesting that Antz was tracked with Mousehunt, if he didn't say it I would have never noticed.Also, that new album he's meaning to produce sounds absolutely wonderful. I truly hope it gets done properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Kaya Savas kicks ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 We need that thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Kaya Savas kicks ass!Yeah, but he's still a Savas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 We have the wrong Savas on this MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Found this great interview yesterday. Some highlights:JP: Right! I’ve always loved working with voices. Voices give you this instant humanity. You can write them nondescript and they’ll blend into the background like an orchestral color. But if you bring them forward, you can use them a little more aggressively within the orchestration style.One of the ways to do that is to put words with it. There’s a few places where they are singing words. You were talking about the mother and child reunion as it were in the middle of the movie that has some words in Gaelic which is a Scottish language. I found some poems from the 17th century and I used some lines from those. That whole section is sung in Gaelic and allows the voices to use a little more rhythm once they’ve got words to hang onto.It’s not unconnected that I’m working on an oratorio, so I probably wrote quite heavily for the choir as an experiment.WAMG: Your oratorio – if you had to compare it to classical, traditional composers, will it sound like Handel or Bach?JP: That’s a very good question. Does it sound like me in Hollywood or does it sound like me before? Before I came to Hollywood, I was a little bit more radical sounding so I’m not really sure yet. One of the things that I’m fascinated by at the moment is polyphony, so I’m studying more polyphony and I think I’m trying to make it sound more polyphonic than one would expect these days. I’m trying to see if I can do something interesting with that idea now – maybe refresh it. It hasn’t been used an awful lot.The piece itself is a story driven by a man who took a moment in history and stood between the chance of peace and the chance of war. His own pride made us go to World War I and basically destroyed the 20th century. Everything bad that is still happening, you can trace to this one moment in history at the end of July in 1914. The Kaiser had the option to negotiate with France and/or Russia so that he wasn’t fighting on all fronts. If he had only fought on one front, the whole first war may have been very different. Maybe it wouldn’t have become a world war with so many Allies being brought in. It may have become a war but not a war that setup the whole of the 20th century’s downfall in a way. It may have not led to the second world war, the rise of Hitler, the rise of Communism, it goes on and on and on. There’s a whole political view I have of the 20th century.It’s what we’re still dealing with based on the futility of this moment of a man with hubris and pride. He worked on the Schlieffen plan for ten years and he came from a hugely famous Prussian military family, he had a lot to live up to and there was no way he was going to let them negotiate peace at that moment before the war started. He wanted his place in history and he wasn’t going let any of it stop him. At that moment when all the negotiations could happen, he was persuaded that it was never going to work.The final name of the oratorio is called “The Prussian Requiem” because Prussia, where he came from and was part of Germany, was basically wiped off the map at the end of the first world war. It had such a political hold over Germany the Allies decided this is where all the problems were coming from, so they got rid of it as a place and it became just Germany. Prussia was a country until 1918, so we call it “The Prussian Requiem”. It’s a requiem for the 20th century, for the people that died and I’ve wanted to write about it for a long time.The main thing is that I wanted to make sure I had the time to make it right and that we had the right choir and the right orchestra playing it, which is the Philharmonia Orchestra - one of the most exquisite in the world. We’re doing it at the Royal Festival Hall as part of their season and I’m very pleased when it’s going to happen. We’re recording it next year.I’m also hoping with the orchestra to try and record an album of suites of film music. I’m going to reinterpret some of the music I’ve done from films – some quite radically. There are moments in some of the pieces that are like suites and you just want to end them differently to finish the musical idea, tie them all up as well as add a few fun things that people haven’t heard before. Probably eight movies, eight suites that we can perform live with orchestras around the world and make an album of it. It will come out at Christmas next year.http://www.wearemoviegeeks.com/2014/12/composer-john-powell-talks-train-dragon-2-oratorio-wamg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Well the oratorio, The Prussian Requiem now has a premiere date! March 6, 2016!http://issuu.com/southbank_centre/docs/classical_guide_2015_16 crocodile and publicist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Heck yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Might have to mark my calendar.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Great news on the Prussian Requiem! I also hope the recording of the film music suites for an album Powell mentions in that interview goes through as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,510 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 John Powell is an English-born composer now based in Hollywood, who has written the music for films including Shrek, Chicken Run, the Bourne trilogy, Rio, How to Train your Dragon, the Ice Age sequels and many other major motion pictures.The Philharmonia Voices will be recording his new work, the Prussian Requiem, an oratorio written to commemorate the outbreak of World War I, and described by the composer as ‘a requiem for the twentieth century’. We will also be singing in a handful movements of suites from his film music.SourceSo apparently the Prussian Requiem was recorded last week, but it seems like we will be getting some film suites as well. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I've only just now noticed Powell's mission theme from Chicken Run is quite similar to a theme from Zimmer's Cool Runnings:1:17 Now that's anything wrong with it, just was listening to Cool Runnings and got to that particular section and I was like "Waaait a minute! I know this!" and then it hit me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Wow. Never noticed the similarity before. Nice catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I gotta say, I think this is my favorite portion of the HTTYD scores from 0:00 to 1:30: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Wow. Never noticed the similarity before. Nice catch!I don't hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's a little more obvious at 1:32 in the Chicken Run track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Wow. Never noticed the similarity before. Nice catch!I don't hear it.That's because you're not listening to it properly. Listen to it again, then come back and tell us you hear the similarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's a little more obvious at 1:32 in the Chicken Run trackOh I know the melody, I just don't hear the Zimmer connection, just Elmer Bernstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2015 I'm becoming surprisingly fanatical about Powell. He is a composer's composer. I know he's liked but I don't think people fully realize just how excellent he is yet. It's exciting. A. A. Ron, Jacck, Arpy and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 He's great. Though with his recent disillusionment with the industry, I'm not sure if there are any projects that currently really inspire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I may have mentioned this before but my relative unfamiliarity with the Dragon scores means that when a cue comes on shuffle, I listen to it with rapt wonder before realizing what it is. Genuine amazement at how good it is. It happens so frequently, I'll be disappointed when I start recognizing them and can't be so satisfyingly surprised anymore. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I may have mentioned this before but my relative unfamiliarity with the Dragon scores means that when a cue comes on shuffle, I listen to it with rapt wonder before realizing what it is. Genuine amazement at how good it is. It happens so frequently, I'll be disappointed when I start recognizing them and can't be so satisfyingly surprised anymore.Try PAN again, then. Not so much the second half but everything up to 'Tramp Stamp' is on the same level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Powell is okay, I like his Bourne sound the most, though. I suppose as a composer I find him marginally more effective overall than Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 John Powell >>> Michael Pinocchio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I do feel bad marginalizing Giacchino though. He does things that annoy me but also has produced some of my most treasured music through Lost. He'll figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I love Lost too, but I just don't think he'll capture that magic again, especially not by scoring large John Wlliams-esque blockbusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I reckon he should be the new default Bond composer, seems like an appropriate niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I imagine he'll get to do one of those eventually, at the rate he's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I'm listening to Two New Alphas in awe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 His oratorio is going to kick so much ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,510 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Can't wait for the premiere on 6th March!Btw, out of interest, this article says:The oratorio has already been recorded at Watford Colosseum, along with another of Powell’s concert works for gospel choir and orchestra, written in collaboration with Gavin Greenaway. Together, these will form an album due to be released early in 2016.I seem to remember hearing about a gospel choir in an interview once...but I can't remember if it was related to this! In fact, I heard from another source that they also managed to record some suites from Powell's films (Powell definitely mentioned this before). Either way, I can't wait to get my hands on that CD. The more music the better, I say! Muad'Dib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I'm becoming surprisingly fanatical about Powell. He is a composer's composer. I know he's liked but I don't think people fully realize just how excellent he is yet. It's exciting.Dude I put him in my top 10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 You two seem to have a lot in common. A lot more than originally transpired.In fact, the more I think about it, the more I realize TGP is in fact a Koko 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I may have mentioned this before but my relative unfamiliarity with the Dragon scores means that when a cue comes on shuffle, I listen to it with rapt wonder before realizing what it is. Genuine amazement at how good it is. It happens so frequently, I'll be disappointed when I start recognizing them and can't be so satisfyingly surprised anymore.Try PAN again, then. Not so much the second half but everything up to 'Tramp Stamp' is on the same level.I love the theme as introduced through the first track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I seem to remember hearing about a gospel choir in an interview once...but I can't remember if it was related to this! In fact, I heard from another source that they also managed to record some suites from Powell's films (Powell definitely mentioned this before). Either way, I can't wait to get my hands on that CD. The more music the better, I say!My curiousity is piqued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I may have mentioned this before but my relative unfamiliarity with the Dragon scores means that when a cue comes on shuffle, I listen to it with rapt wonder before realizing what it is. Genuine amazement at how good it is. It happens so frequently, I'll be disappointed when I start recognizing them and can't be so satisfyingly surprised anymore. Try PAN again, then. Not so much the second half but everything up to 'Tramp Stamp' is on the same level.I wasn't that impressed. But the theme introduced in the second half of overture track is really lovely indeed.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Compositionally it's on the level with the DRAGON scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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