Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 It looks awful. The only John Woo movie I like is Face/Off, and that's probably because I grew up with it. Broken Arrow is also awesome... well, both of them are pretty bad, but they're funny.Watch THE KILLER, BULLET IN THE HEAD, and HARD-BOILED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Meltdown > Dawn Of The Dinosaurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Meltdown > Dawn Of The DinosaursI agree. Both are pretty good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Meltdown > Dawn Of The DinosaursI agree. Both are pretty good though.You know, after listening to both of these more, I'm going to have to retract and reverse my original assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 Dawn of the Dinosaurs >>>>>>> The MeltdownBest movie of the three IMO too.I need to give Bolt another listen too, having seen the movie last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Powell's next 5 movies, according to IMDb, will be animated films. Can't wait for next year!2011Mars Needs MomsHappy Feet 2Kung Fu Panda: The Kaboom Of DoomWinnie The Pooh2012King Of The ElvesBoth Kung Fu Panda and Winnie The Pooh are collaborated with Hans Zimmer! They will be awesomeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Next year nothing. We've still got Knight and Day, Jonah Hex, and Fair Game for this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I haven't heard of Fair Game, but Powell left Jonah Hex due to their insane amount of production delays and problems. Beltrami is scoring now, although I believe it's another Wolfman situation, where parts of his score will still be used.I too, am excited for Knight And Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 You gotta be kidding me? That sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yeah they wanted to him to rescore it because they were constantly reshooting and re-editing, and I believe he said something along the lines of "If you don't know what you're doing, I gotta go." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Both Kung Fu Panda and Winnie The Pooh are collaborated with Hans Zimmer! They will be awesomeness.You have an interesting definition of 'awesomeness' Zimmer co-scoring Winnie the Pooh? hehehehehehe.But Powell seems to have 5 movies on his plate for the next year or two, so I guess maybe even he needs some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 2011Winnie The PoohWhy? Why why why are they doing this?WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I never knew about it until I checked Powell's IMDb either. Honestly, I was excited about the prospect, as long as they do it right. And judging purely by the cast list, it ain't bad so far. I'm all for reigniting Winnie The Pooh, do kids these days know about it?Both Kung Fu Panda and Winnie The Pooh are collaborated with Hans Zimmer! They will be awesomeness.You have an interesting definition of 'awesomeness' Zimmer co-scoring Winnie the Pooh? hehehehehehe.But Powell seems to have 5 movies on his plate for the next year or two, so I guess maybe even he needs some help.Have you not heard Kung Fu Panda or The Road To El Dorado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Powell's animated scores are my favorites, I'm excited for Pooh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Knight And Day By John PowellIn the sexy action-comedy KNIGHT AND DAY, Tom Cruise is a covert agent sent on a mission he was never meant to complete, and Cameron Diaz is a woman caught between the agent and those he claims set him up. As their globetrotting adventure erupts into a maze of double-crosses, close escapes and false identities, they come to realize that all they can count on is each other. Action score specialist John Powell (The Bourne Trilogy) is called to duty for another adrenaline-pumped workout. 20th Century Fox will open KNIGHT AND DAY nationwide on June 23. Varese Sarabande Catalog #: 302 067 034 2Release Date: 07/06/10 1. At The Airport (4:42)2. Rough Landing (3:45) 3. Trouble On I-93 (4:06)4. Running From Roy (2:21) 5. Hostage (3:34)6. Car Ferry (1:34) 7. To the Island of Love (4:21)8. In Austria (1:32) 9. Galley Fight (3:38)10. Five Star (2:16) 11. June Spies (3:28)12. He's A Spy (1:13) 13. Rooftops (3:20)14. The Villa (2:27) 15. Reunion (4:26) 16. Bull Run (4:55)17. Going To Cape Horn? Take a Jacket (3:07)http://www.varesesar...d-302-067-034-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Mars Needs Moms has the potential to be great. I love reading that story to my children. I could really see some gorgeous themes coming from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Just an FYI, there's an expanded Hancock floating around out there now. It has some good unreleased stuff, but still not that Superman cue I really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 That's the only unreleased cue I have any interest in hearing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think it has about 5-10 mins of unreleased stuff, along with a ton of alternates.It doesn't have the film versions of Hollywood BLVD (some orchestration differences) or The Moon and the Superhero (despite having two alternates for that!), and I'd also like the cue for when Hancock moves the policewoman out of danger. There's also some cute stuff towards the beginning with the 'love' theme.This seems to be a scary new minor trend - someone with the full sessions leaks some, but not all. I wonder when an expanded CoS will surface and add another 15 mins worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 The replacement score for Jonah Hex is officially one of the most annoying soundtracks I have ever made myself endure through. So frustrating after building up so much excitement for Powell to be scoring it. I wonder if anything was recorded before the switch happenned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Yes. Powell scored the whole film, but they kept reshooting and reediting and they wanted him to make the proper adjustments, but he had other commitments and had to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 So the original score was actually recorded then? That means there's hope for a rejected score to pop up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Some of the pieces being played at Concert for Care have been announced.http://www.concertforcare.com/2010/09/12/repertoire-news/It seems Powell will be conducting a new suite for HTTYD. I so wish I could go to this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Some of the pieces being played at Concert for Care have been announced.http://www.concertforcare.com/2010/09/12/repertoire-news/It seems Powell will be conducting a new suite for HTTYD. I so wish I could go to this!Awesome! Dragon is Powell's best work to date! (or one of them) I wish I could go too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Fair Game infohttp://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/09/exclusive-john-powells-score-to-doug.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Fair Game infohttp://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/09/exclusive-john-powells-score-to-doug.htmlNice! Can't wait to listen to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 A few minutes from Monday Concert for Care with Powell conducting How to Train a Dragon suite - one of the most excting performances I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Awesome! Thanks a lot for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Yes, thanks indeed! Seeing that it's labeled "part 1," is part 2 coming soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 473 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Fantastic!Would it be possible to put together this suite using the OST, or are the pieces on there too different to work together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Yes, thanks indeed! Seeing that it's labeled "part 1," is part 2 coming soon?I have no idea... It's not my clip and I didn't find the rest of it on YT. I wish someone uploaded more videos from the concert, including brilliant performances of Dudley's American History X and Arnold's You Know My Name and Independence Day.EDIT: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Oh man I should've gone to that concert. Sounds exactly like my sort of thing.... dammit.And that was an amazing performance of HTTYD. Definitely in my top 3 scores of the year.Fantastic!Would it be possible to put together this suite using the OST, or are the pieces on there too different to work together?Only tricky bit I noticed was the end of This is Berk going into Romantic Flight as soon as it reached the love theme. The former goes to a crescendo, the other starts quiet.Some nice reorchestrations too, since he didn't had a choir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Someone should have recorded the Chicken Run piece that was rehearsed but dropped at the last minute because of time limits.Oh, and a few changes I would have made to the Dragon suite: I would have stared it with the opening of "This is Berk" instead of the action part directly. Those horns are really beautiful. And I would have ended it, right after "Test Drive" with the ending part from "Coming Back Around".However, the suite was excellent nonetheless! I really hope Powell gets an Oscar nomiation for this one. I don't care if he doesn't win, I just wanna see him recognised! And besides, he could be the first ex-MV member to get an Oscar nomination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 He definitely deserves one. It appears the Academy is warming up to contemporary animated scores. Ratatouille, WALL-E, and then Up. Not to mention How To Train Your Dragon is just a brilliant score no matter how you look at it. My friend even listens to it frequently, and he isn't into film scores at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Makes me wonder what else has nomination potential this year. I hope Powell does get one.Inception will of course - mega big movie, popular composer with the masses, and music that overwhelmed the film. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Inception is tough. If they nominate Zimmer two years in a row, it'll show a serious change in the Academy. I don't think it'll be nominated, Sherlock Holmes was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Have you heard Inception score ridiculed in the recent South Park ep.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Why yes, we've been talking about it in the South Park thread actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Anybody else think that Powell would have been a cool choice for a HP film? I think it would have been awesome to hear another of his orchestral serious works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Maybe when they turn the Beedle Bard book into a movie, they'll invite Powell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Anybody else think that Powell would have been a cool choice for a HP film? I think it would have been awesome to hear another of his orchestral serious works.I think the only serious film Powell ever scored was United 93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I think the only serious film Powell ever scored was United 93.I was referring to X-Men 3 to be honest. While I think the film isn't exactly serious, the score takes itself very seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I have to say, I love How to Train Your Dragon. There is so much subtlety and development of the major themes and motives in this score. I would be quite happy if Powell or Desplat picked up an Oscar for their work this year because they are both excellent composers. HTTYD is the best score I have heard from Powell. And he's produced a lot of winners IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Anybody else think that Powell would have been a cool choice for a HP film? I think it would have been awesome to hear another of his orchestral serious works.I think the only serious film Powell ever scored was United 93.What about the Bourne films? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I think Powell would have been an interesting choice for HP. I certainly think he's got the chops for it. I will say the only detractor for me in his style is his constant reliance on a steady percussion or drum beat on his more propulsive tracks. I do wish, like Desplat and Williams, he would relinquish this reliance and use rhythmic ostinatos more to carry the driving component of his music. His quieter sections from HTTYD clearly indicate that he can write flowing, dynamic music without that "metronome feel", something that is often endemic with current composers working in the system these days. I'm not saying he should abandon it altogether because I do think his rhythmic sensibilities are part of his style. I just wish he could mix things up once in a while. Still a big fan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Fiery Angel, could you care to elaborate which tracks in HTTYD fall into the metronome feel and which don't? I imagine "Test Drive" falls into that feel, but I would love to know more. The insights of a real composer around here are always fascinating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Fiery Angel, could you care to elaborate which tracks in HTTYD fall into the metronome feel and which don't? I imagine "Test Drive" falls into that feel, but I would love to know more. The insights of a real composer around here are always fascinating Test Flight doesn't bother me that much although it does almost seem like a song rather than a cue. The part where Hiccup free-falls (and amazing sequence) is a little bit of a problem with me because Powell sticks with the same tempo (which is actually kind of moderate) whereas someone like Goldenthal or Giacchino would most probably have changed the tempo to a faster pace during this harrowing sequence. By keeping the music static in terms of its pace, it doesn't help to underline the danger of the moment. I'm sure Goldenthal would have done an aleatoric thing with the brass at that moment too but cannot be totally sure. I don't think you have to Mickey-Mouse every scene but some contrast at the moment would have been good. Once Hiccup regains control, it would have been fine to resume the moderate tempo. I think tracks like Forbidden Friendship have that metronomic feel because of the steady repeating rhythmic figures in the drums/percussion. I know that scene is almost a montage because time elapses during the course of it and having a unifying musical element helps to create some thematic cohesion, but once again, a little reprieve would have made the track breath a big more. But these are actually minor niggles. I really like both tracks musically very much. They are my two favorite tracks from the score. Probably why I can elaborate on them because I've played 'em a hundred times!You do have to realize that as a composer, sometimes my own personal bias or preference comes into play. I see a scene and hear how I would score it which doesn't mean that is the best way to do it. The director probably wanted exactly what Powell gave them and he delivered bigtime for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Well, Forbidden Friendship seems to be inspired from this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqedKa5-1K0... So it could be possible that it was temp-track case, although I think that Powell's result is much better. If there's one little change I'd made to that scene is this... When the "Friendiship theme" kicks in in its full glory (at 2:58) I've would have cutted the picture to reveal the drawing right at that point, you know what I mean? Then continue the rest naturally, as it is on the film. Would have made a little more impact, I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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