Richard Penna 3,664 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Yeah, the Suite at the end sounds like an alternate passage from Hancock. I'd even suggest it may be temped with The Moon and the Superhero. And To the Surface/Family Reunion both borrow a motif directly from HTTYD.Martian Mambo... dear oh dear.I look forward to hearing the whole thing, but it does sound rather formulaic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Looks like its gonna be a download-only releaseThat would suck, but I wouldn't write off a CD release just because none is listed on Amazon yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Wow Martian Mambo is copy and paste from Ice Age 2... and I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 We probably should take into consideration that this is a replacement score. Originally, Hans Zimmer was supposed to score this movie, but or either he left or was rejected. Lack of more time is probably the reason why it sounds similar to other Powell works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yes, Zimmer was originally attached. I feel that it was just temp-tracked with Powell and they brought him in to make slight differences. The film doesn't look that good anyway, so I'm sure he's saving the good stuff for Rio, Kung Fu Panda 2, and Happy Feet 2 later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 397 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Isn't he doing Winnie The Pooh as well?Edit: just saw now it is Henry Jackman. I swore I saw Powell's name in a trailer or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Zimmer and Powell were listed on Wikipedia. Obviously a rumor based on Kung Fu Panda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Varese Sarabande will be releasing the score to Rio on April 19thhttp://www.varesesarabande.com/servlet/the-620/Rio/Detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 397 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I've been listening to Mars Needs Moms, I love it. Too bad it's another digital only release. :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I just noticed that there's a little JW homage on the first twelve seconds of "Enjoy the Ride", Close Encounters style... I so wanna hear Powell do a full score in that direction someday. A suspense or horror film would be a great change for him and to try some new stuff.However, I must say that Mars Needs Moms is really growing on me, despite the similarities with other Powell works. I like how Powell is taking the music seriously and avoiding the silly mickey-mousing. Also, the orchestrations are simply top-notch. A reviewer on FSM said how much Powell has progressed with his orchestrations and he is absolutely right. X-Men 3 can sound a little messy sometimes, but Dragon and Mars sound perfect.Powell has come a long way. I can't wait to hear Rio and his upcoming stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I bet some modern film composers wish their "confort zone" was as fun as Powell's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwing 0 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 http://score-points.blogspot.com/2011/03/review-mars-needs-moms.htmlScore Points reviews John Powell's exciting and surprisingly dramatic score for Mars Needs Moms. The score is available as a digital download from Amazon, and is a must-buy for Powell fans and film score fans alike. An early contender for Score of the Year (and Powell still has three more scores coming!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 What is this a press release? We've been discussing it in the Powell thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,664 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This ain't 'score of the year' from what I've heard so far.I need to give it a proper listen, but there's so much temp-track influence in this. It's just not affecting me in the same way as HTTYD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 That's because it's nowhere near the quality of How To Train Your Dragon. That score is, oh yeah I'm saying it, a masterpiece. This is run-of-the-mill Powell and it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 HTTYD sounds run of the mill as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwing 0 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I couldn't disagree more. Run-of-the-mill Powell is, in my opinion, something like Horton which, while it is enjoyable and has tons of very good music, is schizophrenic, without a real identity of its own. It's a score that has 40 tracks that each run 1-2 minutes, so Powell is unable to really develop his ideas. This score has an average track time of over 3 minutes, and each track is an individually contained, thoroughly developed piece of music. Is there a bit of a temp track influence? Yes. Does it have the breadth that How to Train Your Dragon had? No. But honestly, it's one of the most enjoyable, thoroughly entertaining 46 minute album I've listened to in a while. Themes are developed gradually, each to its full potential, there are some great moments of reflection and emotion, and the orchestration is fantastic. So no, it doesn't have the range of Dragon, but it's still an incredible listening experience.As far as the themes go, while there is clear influence, it is nothing more than that: influence. Do you dislike Marion's theme because it's so similar to Han and Leia's theme? Not to mention that, in an era where most composers seem content using the easy i-VI-III-VII chord progression, Powell very rarely uses it. He has his own progression that he likes, sure, but so does every composer. So the temp-track influence wasn't a problem at all to me, especially because the end result is of such high quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Horton Hears A Who! is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Are there any Powell scores you DON'T like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Horton Hears A Who! is brilliant.I won a signed copy of that score e few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Did you like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 HTTYD sounds run of the mill as well.John Powell is the best run-of-the-mill composer ever!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Did you like it?It's pretty good, but hardly outstanding. Of all the MV composers, John Powell definatly sticks out. But thus far I have not heard him do something that blew away.Like with Gia, I don't know what all the fuss is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Didn't you like X-Men 3?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 John Powell is the best run-of-the-mill composer ever!KarolPeople piss on John Debney for being generic, but then drool all over Gia and John Powell?Didn't you like X-Men 3?KarolI do, it's a very good score. But it's not ground breaking, not brilliant, not earth-shattering.Is has a few brilliant moments though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 John Powell is the best run-of-the-mill composer ever!KarolPeople piss on John Debney for being generic, but then drool all over Gia and John Powell?The problem with Debney is that he's almost too versatile for his own good. He's so good in that you can barely tell what his score sounds like. That's probably why he's so popular in the industry. Giacchino and Powell are hardly better composers, but at least have more defined sound of their own.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 People piss on John Debney for being generic, but then drool all over Gia and John Powell?I've never thought of Giacchino as generic... never heard anyone else say that eitherHave you not listened to his LOST music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Steef is part of the anti Giacchino group here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I know, but has he given him a fair chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 There is nothing fair about life. You should know this by now. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Have you not listened to his LOST music?Bits of it. Even heard some of it in concert. It's good as TV music goes, certainly. Probably more original then his film work.I know, but has he given him a fair chance?I've talked to Gia's sister! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 She's a teacher, am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Possible, I only talked about film music with her. She was interviewing people for her brothers site. Never did check if I made it up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Have you not listened to his LOST music?Bits of it. Even heard some of it in concert. It's good as TV music goes, certainly. Probably more original then his film work.I'd highly recommend checking out the Lost Season 4 or Season 6 OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yes yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,664 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well I've listened to the whole album, and really, only 3 cues stood out to me: Enjoy the Ride, Gribble's Loss and the credits suite.Everything else just wasn't really doing anything. Maybe it's just one of those scores you need to see the film to enjoy, but this one hasn't set me on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Horton Hears A Who! is brilliant.Absolutely agreed. I would consider it one of his best, if not his single best. The 1–2 minute track thing really isn't a problem, as they all flow together as a unified whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Horton was my favorite Powell before Dragon.There are a handful of scores of his that I don't enjoy. Stuff like Two Weeks Notice and Stop-Loss; even The Last Stand, which is the only Powell score where I don't hear his voice coming through as strongly as it could.Oh, and Jumper is just flat out bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Rio cover art and track list:http://www.varesesarabande.com/servlet/the-620/Rio/Detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Wonder what the asterisks mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Wonder what the asterisks mean.http://www.varesesarabande.com/media/02/a20791812eea71709d241f_l.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Yeah I looked at that. The answer isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 "Market Forro" sounds really wrong in spanish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Why, what does it mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Yeah I looked at that. The answer isn't there.I would imagine the asterisk applies to that.It makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Since Powell didn't write the song, it makes sense that the song / melody may be included in those cues with asterisks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,249 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 However, looking at the tracklist on Varese's sight, I only looked at the back cover, there appears to be other markings next to some tracks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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