Indiana Jones: The Soundtracks Collection (OFFICIAL thread)

[jasonblueeyes 0]

God, Stealing The Stones is amazing. The Voices and the music underneath is powerful, powerful stuff.

Shouldn't it have been called "Reclaiming" or "Re-capturing The Stones" though?

[publicist 4,643]

Concord has answered my request regarding the release with an exact duplicate of the press announcement

...and the statement that at present time no further information is available.

[fommes 153]

There's an interesting post on the FSM board. Nothing new, but interesting nonetheless.

I worked on Young Indy back in the day and as such, I got to listen to the complete 1/4" mix downs of the Raiders score. We used some of it for temp music before the composers were hired. (There was also a 1/4" mix down of TOD but we never used it. Crusade was only on a 24 track in Ben Burtt's office closet so we didn't use that either.)

In any case, looking at my old notes which I still have, here's what I have for timings from that 1/4" tape. They should pretty much match the DCC release as I believe the DCC release was made from the same master. I've * the tracks that weren't on that.

1. Main Title (4:10)

2. In the Idol's Temple (5:34)

3. Flight from Peru (2:20)

4. *Government Agents (1:10)

5. Journey to Nepal/Medallion (5:06)

6. To Cairo (1:30)

7. Basket Game (5:04)

8. *The Poisoning (0:54)

9. *Bad Dates (0:28)

10. Map Room (3:53)

11. Reunion and the Dig (4:12)

12. The Well of Souls (5:29)

13. *Discovery of the Ark (5:34)

14. *Marion into the Well (0:40)

15. *Through the Wall aka Indy Rides the Statue (1:05)

16. The Mummy Cave (2:04)

17. Airplane Fight (4:37)

18. Desert Chase (8:18)

19. Marion's Theme (2:08)

20. The German Sub and to the Island (4:32)

21. Art Trek / Miracle of the Ark (7:38)

22. The Warehouse / End Titles (6:17)

23. The Raiders March (Concert) (2:52)

I think either some tracks were combined that are now separate on the CD album, so it may not line up.

What appears to not be on the new CD are:

The Poisoning (unless combined with Bad Dates), Marion into the Well (a short cue as Marion is dropped into Indy's arms and then falls to the ground), and Discovery of the Ark (but likely combined into The Well of Souls which I think is how the LP had it).

Very excited to see even some of the unreleased stuff come out.

I think the press release is oddly worded but I would like to believe that TOD and Crusade will be expanded.

Laird

[Trent B 337]

Actually that would cause this board to implode and a small nuclear explosion would occur in Canada.

It would be the end of the world for this forum if what Henry suggested happens.

[überFranz 0]

Or the Pankot Palace source cues.

will the Bookburning March from TLC be included?

That is a very good question. Der Koniggratzer is ein fantastic piece auf musik. Composed not by Williams aber by Johann Gottfried Piefke.

It was voted # 4 in ze best WWII movie marches on the Sturmfront White Nationalist Community forum.

I have keine interest in der musik from Indiana Jones und der Tempel des Todes.

[MissPadmé 17]

Concord has answered my request regarding the release with an exact duplicate of the press announcement

...and the statement that at present time no further information is available.

well I guess not many have catched what I wrote in the other thread.. but this is the answer my collegue got from Concord musicgroup on august 25th!!!

We appreciate your interest in Concord Music Group. The box set is scheduled to be released on 10/14. I have no additional information in regards to what is actually being released on these soundtracks. Maybe closer to the release date or when actual copies are in my presence I may be able to give you more information. If you have any additional questions feel free to contact us at your convenience.

ok.. they have changed their mind or he lied!

[überFranz 0]

Der Williams has maybe let in himself with eine unsavory people. It would nicht be ze first time. Lucas und Spielberg for instance!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Anti-semite!

[überFranz 0]

Jawohl.

[John Crichton 4]

It was voted # 4 in ze best WWII movie marches on the Sturmfront White Nationalist Community forum.

Very popular around North Minehead during the National Bocialist era, IIRC. When that strange Mr. Hilter was running in the by-election.

[Marian Schedenig 8,193]

Ooh planning a little excursion are we Mr Hilter?

ok.. they have changed their mind or he lied!

Or they just don't make too big a deal out of this so only a few people really have the info.

Has anyone suggested that the additional disk may contain the interview and additional bits of music? I mean, with one disc each and a half disc for leftovers, complete TOD and LC scores should fit on the set, right?

[tjguitar 0]

ok.. they have changed their mind or he lied!

Maybe the CSR you spoke to just made an honest mistake

[JoeinAR 1,949]

so much speculation, so little actual knowledge. remastered doesn't mean much at all.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Remastered means it's better.

[Nick Parker 3,040]

I do not think that I am the first to say that the amount of speculation for these Discs are higher than that of Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull before its theatrical release (though I cannot say that I am immune to the speculation).

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Remastered means it's better.

not really,

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

It's new, someone has redone it, it is more modern, so better.

It's new...

[JoeinAR 1,949]

so its like an orgasm, the lastest one you've had is new, so its better. I understand the logic.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

You said orgasm.

[Jeshopk 8]

Remastered means it's better.

That's often been the opposite in the past.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Only with some Williams scores.

[John Crichton 4]

Usually when it's Sony talking about the "remastering".

[JoeinAR 1,949]

so why is the remastered ET less satisfying than the original un-remastered release.

[Henry B 50]

so its like an orgasm, the lastest one you've had is new, so its better. I understand the logic.

That's not the logic. Remastering means cleaning up and sharpening the clarity of music. This usually improves it sound. Simple.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

so its like an orgasm, the lastest one you've had is new, so its better. I understand the logic.

That's not the logic. Remastering means cleaning up and sharpening the clarity of music. This usually improves it sound. Simple.

no it doesn't, how simple is it for some of you to understand remastered doesnt' mean better.

usually remastered mean tinkered with, nothing more.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

O.K. what's the latest news here?

[John Crichton 4]

O.K. what's the latest news here?

Er, let's see...Jeff Bond agrees with us (likely expanded and possibly complete), Concord's PR people are bad writers, Henry went to that place that should not be mentioned, Mark wants the complete Belly of the Steel Beast, uberFranz likes the Nazi march source music, Mr. Hilter's on an excursion, and Joe said orgasm. Business as usual.

[Henry B 50]

so its like an orgasm, the lastest one you've had is new, so its better. I understand the logic.

That's not the logic. Remastering means cleaning up and sharpening the clarity of music. This usually improves it sound. Simple.

no it doesn't, how simple is it for some of you to understand remastered doesnt' mean better.

usually remastered mean tinkered with, nothing more.

So I'm guessing you prefer the original releases of Home Alone 2, Superman and The Final Conflict? Because restoration efforts sure did hurt their sound quality...

[Koray Savas 2,251]

O.K. what's the latest news here?

Er, let's see...Jeff Bond agrees with us (likely expanded and possibly complete), Concord's PR people are bad writers, Henry went to that place that should not be mentioned, Mark wants the complete Belly of the Steel Beast, uberFranz likes the Nazi march source music, Mr. Hilter's on an excursion, and Joe said orgasm. Business as usual.

Thanks.

[FattyMcButterpants 1]

It's conversations like these that make me wait for news on the main page.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

thats been my point all along, we've got nothing here but speculation.

[FattyMcButterpants 1]

thats been my point all along, we've got nothing here but speculation.

Actually, we do have a press release written by a masochistic illiterate.

At least that's the impression I get.

[Nick Parker 3,040]

It's conversations like these that make me wait for news on the main page.

Which conversations are you referring to?

[FattyMcButterpants 1]

Well, for instance, whether or not remastering leads to sound improvement.

It's like saying breast enlargement doesn't necessarily lead to bigger boobies.

[ciarlese 250]

I think Concord is making a great job.

It is very hard to think that they felt to add few minutes to an already very satisfying and almost complete edition but decided tol leave out dozens of minutes from Indy2 and Indy3.

Seen what is going to be the work about Indy1, I think 2-cd sets for Temple and Crusade are not so impossible to be present in this set, and I understand reading the press release that both Temple and Crusade won't be available separately.

[Nick Parker 3,040]

Interesting metaphor, but I suppose it serves its duty. I thought you might have been referring to some other ...odd... pieces of conversation.

[indy4 155]

I do not think that I am the first to say that the amount of speculation for these Discs are higher than that of Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull before its theatrical release (though I cannot say that I am immune to the speculation).

With all the polls over the years, and the sudden burst of topics and polls right before and after, Indy 4 had about 20 times the speculation that this does.

[bruckhorn 105]

Ooh planning a little excursion are we Mr Hilter?

ok.. they have changed their mind or he lied!

Or they just don't make too big a deal out of this so only a few people really have the info.

Has anyone suggested that the additional disk may contain the interview and additional bits of music? I mean, with one disc each and a half disc for leftovers, complete TOD and LC scores should fit on the set, right?

According to the filmography page, Raiders is 89:42, TOD is 114:01, and LC is 124:04 with 5:01 of source music (times include all pieces listed on the page). Putting as much music as can fit on a CD (80 min), that leaves Raiders 10, TOD 35, and LC 40 (nixing the source music) and -5 minutes for the interview with Williams.

Wait, minus five minutes? Uh, I don't think we're going to get complete scores unless they go to 2 discs per title.

Oh, well.

As to Miss Padme's quote citing October 14 as the box set release date, I'm gonna guess the person confused the box set release date with the Raiders solo disc release. The quote may be from the same person who wrote (if I may be so kind as to consider it writing) the press release.

C'mon Vosk, it's King Mark we're talking about here! He's just being himself. And I wouldn't want him any other way. (BTW, nice to see you back on the board.)

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Well, for instance, whether or not remastering leads to sound improvement.

It's like saying breast enlargement doesn't necessarily lead to bigger boobies.

bullsh!t, it isn't always true,

some of you are so damned gullible, its laughable, its often a gimmick to get you to buy the same music again.

[FattyMcButterpants 1]

So it is, but actual remastering does improve sound quality.

And if LC and TOD are remastered, they will sound better.

[bruckhorn 105]

Probably better, quite possibly better, but not 100% positive that the sound will be better.

Over the years, I have seen many comments on how there are parts of the 4 disc Star Wars box set that sound better than the complete score releases that were remastered a couple of years later.

If you wanna have fun, track down some articles from the mid-80s debating what sounded better: LPs or CDs.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

well I have Stefan's LC boot, and the sound on it could be improved even to my tin ear, but I doubt there is much new music outside of that 2 disc set.

TOD is the True Holy Grail

anything from the only decent Raiders sequel is appreciated.

[Henry B 50]

Well, for instance, whether or not remastering leads to sound improvement.

It's like saying breast enlargement doesn't necessarily lead to bigger boobies.

bullsh!t, it isn't always true,

some of you are so damned gullible, its laughable, its often a gimmick to get you to buy the same music again.

Yeah, Joe, obviously remastering can be a misnomer, as with the 2004 Sony release of the Star Wars trilogy, or it can go wrong, but that's the exception, not the rule.

I'd challenge anyone to say the original Superman album sounds better than the Blue Box.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

I don't have the blue box so I can't say but I doubt I'd hear much difference, I have a tin ear

[Lurker 5]

I don't have the blue box so I can't say but I doubt I'd hear much difference, I have a tin ear

Perhaps, but I'm sure you'd notice how awesome Courage's Superman IV score is.

Neil

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Neil, I'd much rather have the Complete Sherlock Holmes collection than the blue box

If I'm going to spend 100 bucks I want it to be something I really like than something I don't care about like Superman 2, 3 or 4

[Trent B 337]

Joe, the blue box is really worth owning man. I don't listen to the others that much but just having the complete remastered version for Superman: The Movie makes the price tag worth it in my opinion.

[Henry B 50]

I don't have the blue box so I can't say but I doubt I'd hear much difference, I have a tin ear

So you can't even hear differences in sound quality, yet you feel the 20th Anniversary E.T. release is aurally ruined and we're all idiots for buying into the idea of remastering. Whatever.

[Trent B 337]

I don't have the blue box so I can't say but I doubt I'd hear much difference, I have a tin ear

So you can't even hear differences in sound quality, yet you feel the 20th Anniversary E.T. release is aurally ruined and we're all idiots for buying into the idea of remastering. Whatever.

haha, I agree with you Henry.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Joe, the blue box is really worth owning man. I don't listen to the others that much but just having the complete remastered version for Superman: The Movie makes the price tag worth it in my opinion.

$120 just for a remastered edition, no thanks. If it was released separately, I would buy it in an instant.