JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Can't we just agree that Catch me if you can is a williams mediocre score...and leave Indy alone?No we can't Catch Me If You Can is a terrific score better than KOTCS(which I still like). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Now you are bringing "Catch Me If You Can" into the battle? And no, we cannot agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Neil didn't mention once in this thread he was happy how the box set turned out after predicting the worst case scenario 2 weeks agoI can't wait to edit these together properly. Satisfied?Neilthat will do.well if you really want an example of a mediocre-lame Williams score,there's Minority Report in that category .RotS is much above that and in the PoA range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 well if you really want an example of a mediocre-lame Williams score,there's Minority Report in that category . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graffin13 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I sorta liked some of Minority Report. Not his best, but some good stuff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hold me back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 No its not, thats insane. Rots isn't close to POA its crap except for the Star Wars parts. Battle of the Heroes screams mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 we have to get this thread to page 100 somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 you keep praising the garbage that you seem to do so often and we'll get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 This feels like an episode of Seinfeld.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hold me back!Guess the number of times that I do NOT appreciate seeing that cartoon (Hint; It is a number between -10 and 0). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Presumed track times1 Raiders March - 2:12 3 Uncovering the Ark - 6:01 4 Indy and the Villagers (best case scenario) - 6:00 5 Secret Passage, The - 3:24 6 Father's Study - 2:19 (could be longer) 7 Marcus Is Captured/To Berlin - 2:00 8 To the Blimp - 2:019 Blimp Turns Around, The - 1:24 10 Death of Kazim - 2:21 11 Wrong Choice, Right Choice - 4:27 12 Return to the Village/Raiders March - 6:30 (it could also be just 2:15, since it does not mention end credits. But I doubt they'd end the track there)This gives a total of 38:54 in the best case and longest scenario presented. Since this still makes up for a rather short cd even considering interviews, it is indeed possible Indy and the Villagers is composite of all tracks from that segment of the movie. Also, Father's Study could also include Packet from Dad and Inscription on the Rock, making that track a total of 4:10 in lenght, for a cd total of 40:55, still a reasonable total length considering the interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Presumed track times1 Raiders March - 2:12 3 Uncovering the Ark - 6:01 4 Indy and the Villagers (best case scenario) - 6:00 5 Secret Passage, The - 3:24 6 Father's Study - 2:19 (could be longer) 7 Marcus Is Captured/To Berlin - 2:00 8 To the Blimp - 2:019 Blimp Turns Around, The - 1:24 10 Death of Kazim - 2:21 11 Wrong Choice, Right Choice - 4:27 12 Return to the Village/Raiders March - 6:30 (it could also be just 2:15, since it does not mention end credits. But I doubt they'd end the track there)This gives a total of 38:54 in the best case and longest scenario presented. Since this still makes up for a rather short cd even considering interviews, it is indeed possible Indy and the Villagers is composite of all tracks from that segment of the movie. Also, Father's Study could also include Packet from Dad and Inscription on the Rock, making that track a total of 4:10 in lenght, for a cd total of 40:55, still a reasonable total length considering the interviews.Return to the Village is the main reason to get this set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 It's essential that it was included ,but by far not the main reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graffin13 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I am personally waiting for Wrong Chalice, Right Choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hold me back!Guess the number of times that I do NOT appreciate seeing that cartoon (Hint; It is a number between -10 and 0).Just doin' my part to get us to page 100!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 You know, all of this talk puts me in the mood to see "Raiders of the Lost Ark". See you in a few hours, everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I am personally waiting for Wrong Chalice, Right Choice.Indeed. My most awaited track from the whole set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Yeah, it's probably mine too, although there's a lot to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 It's essential that it was included ,but by far not the main reasonyes it is, its the greatest ending music to an Indy film.Nothing in Least Crusade is important to me, but TOD is by far the most important expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 If you don't think "The Wrong Chalice/The Power of the Grail" is important, than I don't see how you can be satisfied with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 If you don't think "The Wrong Chalice/The Power of the Grail" is important, than I don't see how you can be satisfied with anything.He really can't be. By sure you've figured that out by now. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 can you not get it wrapped around your brain Curly that I don't care about anything in Least Crusade, its not as important as TOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Not Without My Daughter is more important than this whole crappy set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Last Crusade is my favorite Indy score. I'm so happy with all the extra music we're getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 can you not get it wrapped around your brain Curly that I don't care about anything in Least Crusade, its not as important as TODYou may be right that the TOD material is more important (in one sense it's a subjective matter, and on the practical side of things, TOD did get a shorter release). But I don't see why you wouldn't care about such great music as is in LC. Whatever, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I have a great two disc edition of LC that rarely gets listened to, I have Raiders and TOD loaded on my mp3 player but not the other two Indy scores, with little prospect that I will load them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well the sound quality on the Last Crusade 2 disk set is dreadful . Maybe you'll change your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 sound quality won't make me like the music any better KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I'm still not sure what you specifically don't like about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Try arguing, KM. You'll get similar answers from Joe as the ones I get from MP when I ask her why she doesn't like Alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Last Crusade is my favorite Indy score. I'm so happy with all the extra music we're gettingAgreed. On both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well, I am back. Watching the film made me anticipate the Box Set all the more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 well if you really want an example of a mediocre-lame Williams score,there's Minority Report in that category .No.Can't we just agree that Catch me if you can is a williams mediocre score...and leave Indy alone?NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Catch Me If You Can and Minority Report are sooooooooooooooooooooo droll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 "Droll" means "interesting", if I do so recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well, I am back. Watching the film made me anticipate the Box Set all the more.Most of Raiders is released though, ToD and LC are what make this set so special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 He doesn't have any of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 *sigh* I vos never dat young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 No... you were younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 You are probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 On the weekend I did an MS Excel spreadsheet of the first three movies and a complete cue list comparison using the complete cue lists here at JWFan, the previous official release CD's and the new Complete Score Collection. Unfortunately I could not post it here at the time because all the formatting was lost. Now that I know there is a spreadsheet function with Google....Here it is for you all. Any errors please let me know. BTW Each score has it's own page.http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=ppI...jp5Bw&hl=enIf anyone has problems with this not opening send me an email. I have only just started using Google Docs and don't know how to set it up so it opens freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Congrats, that was the 3000th reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 On the weekend I did an MS Excel spreadsheet of the first three movies and a complete cue list comparison using the complete cue lists here at JWFan, the previous official release CD's and the new Complete Score Collection. Unfortunately I could not post it here at the time because all the formatting was lost. Now that I know there is a spreadsheet function with Google....http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=ppI...YfxPImXlA2jp5BwLet me know what you think and if there should be any changes. BTW Each score has it's own page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Man we know very much about this boxset and still there are soo many questions! Concord please give us more By the way; I don't get why people even response to posts like "AOTC is s**t", if you don't agree....just let him have his opinion, and think about him what you want. The prequels/KOTCS can be praised - rightPrequels/KOTCS can be bashed - right.everybody can tell his opinion, but then both are RIGHT. neither of one is wrong, because the judge upon their opinion.. well some express it in a neutral and some maybe in (what seems to be) a absolute over the top way emotional, but arguing about musical tastes, I can't say it often enough...becauseTHIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM OF THIS MUSIC BOARD dialogues like:A"Indy 4 is a nice OST"B "No it's not, you are WRONG!"A "Well no you are wrong, it is fantastic, call me a reason why it isn't!"B"It is s**t and if you like it you like s**t, and if you say something like that, you are stupid!"now if someone says, AOTC is bad composed music, without knowing the technical background of it, he ACTUALLY is stupid! because badmouthes something he even doesn't understand. that is a pseudo intellectual post by that person in a very stubborn way.if someone just tells his opinion, and does it in a provocative way, why even bother responding to it?? Ignore it, and you will lead a happier life.Don't you remeber those damn bullies from school, just ignore them and they will stop humiliating you...my opinion is that Joey has a very bad attitude, he is in a certain age where I thought people should be a little wiser with there words, but in the end it doesn't seem to be a rule that everyone has to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Man we know very much about this boxset and still there are soo many questions! Concord please give us more By the way; I don't get why people even response to posts like "AOTC is s**t", if you don't agree....just let him have his opinion, and think about him what you want. The prequels/KOTCS can be praised - rightPrequels/KOTCS can be bashed - right.everybody can tell his opinion, but then both are RIGHT. neither of one is wrong, because the judge upon their opinion.. well some express it in a neutral and some maybe in (what seems to be) a absolute over the top way emotional, but arguing about musical tastes, I can't say it often enough...becauseTHIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM OF THIS MUSIC BOARD dialogues like:A"Indy 4 is a nice OST"B "No it's not, you are WRONG!"A "Well no you are wrong, it is fantastic, call me a reason why it isn't!"B"It is s**t and if you like it you like s**t, and if you say something like that, you are stupid!"now if someone says, AOTC is bad composed music, without knowing the technical background of it, he ACTUALLY is stupid! because badmouthes something he even doesn't understand. that is a pseudo intellectual post by that person in a very stubborn way.if someone just tells his opinion, and does it in a provocative way, why even bother responding to it?? Ignore it, and you will lead a happier life.Don't you remeber those damn bullies from school, just ignore them and they will stop humiliating you...my opinion is that Joey has a very bad attitude, he is in a certain age where I thought people should be a little wiser with there words, but in the end it doesn't seem to be a rule that everyone has to followCertainly a woman's touch to an old grouch board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Man we know very much about this boxset and still there are soo many questions! Concord please give us more By the way; I don't get why people even response to posts like "AOTC is s**t", if you don't agree....just let him have his opinion, and think about him what you want. The prequels/KOTCS can be praised - rightPrequels/KOTCS can be bashed - right.everybody can tell his opinion, but then both are RIGHT. neither of one is wrong, because the judge upon their opinion.. well some express it in a neutral and some maybe in (what seems to be) a absolute over the top way emotional, but arguing about musical tastes, I can't say it often enough...becauseTHIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM OF THIS MUSIC BOARD dialogues like:A"Indy 4 is a nice OST"B "No it's not, you are WRONG!"A "Well no you are wrong, it is fantastic, call me a reason why it isn't!"B"It is s**t and if you like it you like s**t, and if you say something like that, you are stupid!"now if someone says, AOTC is bad composed music, without knowing the technical background of it, he ACTUALLY is stupid! because badmouthes something he even doesn't understand. that is a pseudo intellectual post by that person in a very stubborn way.if someone just tells his opinion, and does it in a provocative way, why even bother responding to it?? Ignore it, and you will lead a happier life.Don't you remeber those damn bullies from school, just ignore them and they will stop humiliating you...my opinion is that Joey has a very bad attitude, he is in a certain age where I thought people should be a little wiser with there words, but in the end it doesn't seem to be a rule that everyone has to followWell said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Either you're with us or you're against us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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