David Coscina 3 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 A Harry Potter score by Elliot Goldenthal______________________________A James Bond score by Alexandre Desplat______________________________A Pirates of the Caribbean score by Danny Elfman______________________________A Watchmen score by John Williams______________________________A Godzilla/Kaiju score by John Corigliano______________________________I will go first:Harry Potter by Goldenthal would be interesting to say the least. I think he would bring more classicism to its sound than people would expect. Perhaps a Minuet and Trio or something but a little skewed from the norm. I don't think it would be atonal unless it was for some of the darkest momentsI would love to hear a Desplat waltz playing during an action scene. Even more so if he would adapt the main theme into it. It would be refined, clear and elegant. It would have a nice love theme for sure.A POTC score by Elfman would be much different than what people might expect. He's really diverged from his '90s sound and I think it would interesting to hear some traditional pirate music fused with Elfman's unique approach.Williams doing Watchmen would be ultra cool because he too has descended into dark territory with WotW and Minority Report. It would not be another Superman that's for sure. Atmospheric and slightly dissonant. Think Nixon meets Sleepers.Finally, A Corigliano kaiju score would be killer. all those wonderful orchestral effects at his disposal but also a command of various classical forms would bring a really fresh new sound to this genre. in some ways, I see his approach not too dissimilar to Ifukube's mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 I would rather think of all those things done by JW.Ah.... <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 I would rather think of all those things done by JW.Ah.... <_<would you care to elaborate then? I would like to know why you think this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 A Pirates of the Caribbean score by Danny Elfman<_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 A Pirates of the Caribbean score by Danny Elfman<_<I agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Maybe a quirky choral waltz for Davy Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 A Pirates of the Caribbean score by Danny Elfman<_<I agree...It would be so much better than what we ended up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Maybe a quirky choral waltz for Davy Jones?Jack Sparrow got a quirky waltz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Not the waltz thing again ... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I'm not saying all of Pirates is a waltz, I never meant to say those things when we had that discussion/argument. But Jack's theme is very waltzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Williams on Watchmen would be very interesting, especially if it was as thematically complex as the material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Williams and Snyder... yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Finally, A Corigliano kaiju score would be killer. all those wonderful orchestral effects at his disposal but also a command of various classical forms would bring a really fresh new sound to this genre. in some ways, I see his approach not too dissimilar to Ifukube's mind you.Funny I can imagine the Introitus from Circus Maximus as main theme, that would be damn massive, chaotic and scary, as the film would require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 A Pirates of the Caribbean score by Danny ElfmanI agree...It would be so much better than what we ended up with.What wouldn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 A Pirates of the Caribbean score by Danny ElfmanI agree...It would be so much better than what we ended up with.I beg to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,248 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I know, instead of vomiting at each others' imagination, how about we make our own suggestions! This is, after all, just a hypothetical thread.I for one would like to hear Transformers done by John Powell. He's one of the few that I think could successfully capture the frantic changes in pace and emotion without a) going WAY over the top and b) sounding completely generic (which is what we ended up with).Also, a Potter done by 80s Horner. I think he could have done a wonderful job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 451 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Williams would be absolutely wrong for Watchmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 A Pirates of the Caribbean score by Danny ElfmanI agree...It would be so much better than what we ended up with.I beg to differ.I'm practically on my knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,083 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I hope Koray is referring to the third score, which I consider a decent score in Zimmer's cannon at least (Zimmer haters - if you slay this score, then you haven't even put the disc inside a machine, I guarantee).I echo Powell for Transformers. He's got exactly the right American feel, sense of theme and melody, and knows how to use electronics in an appropriate way. Jablonsky has none of those in the right dose.Not sure who I'd rather have for PotC. Silvestri would have been good, but his cheesy use of brass in action sequences annoys me sometimes. I'd love to hear a Goldenthal Potter score, as I think a more classical approach is what the franchise needs - less mickey mousey, and something that would finally make us take the movie seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I know Dave and I have discussed this before but I'd like to see Howard Shore score a giant monster film. I think Danny Elfman could handle that genere as well.Bruce Broughton would be an excellent choice for Harry Potter and POTC too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,083 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Shore nearly did. We might get to hear some of it one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Transformers would have been a great vehicle for any of the top composers in the 80s: Williams, Goldsmith, Horner, Silvestri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 859 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Shore nearly did. We might get to hear some of it one day.I did take that into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 I know Dave and I have discussed this before but I'd like to see Howard Shore score a giant monster film. I think Danny Elfman could handle that genere as well..Yup, that would be cool. I also think a Dark Knight score by Shore would have been pretty slick. Just imagine the urban decay of Seven's score married to Nolan's more realistic take on Batman. Shore also has some nice jazz chops and could easily have worked some subtle harmonies into the fabric of the score. I don't think Shore has ever done a superhero score come to think of it. I guess the airplane theme from The Aviator is about as heroic as we'll get from him next to LOTR of course.EDIT- whoops forgot about the crazy SNL-styled upbeat "hero" music for J and Silent Bob when they rescue Linda Fiorentino in Dogma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I just got this bit of information from rejectedfilmscores.com. Maybe it is old news, but it is the first I had heard of it."2003 PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN -- Alan Silvestri. No. He didn't record anything. Early test screening prints had the new composer's score. He did original demos though. Gore and Jerry were not happy with flutes, they passed along their displeasure by telling the MV composers not to write any woodwind flourishes that you would associate with a traditional pirate score. So, in other words, Silvestri wanted to give us a masterpiece and Jerry didn't want it. INFO. [The composers who did score the movie: Hans Zimmer, Geoff Zanelli(additional), Blake Neely(additional), James McKee Smith(additional), Steve Jablonsky(additional), Nick Glennie-Smith (additional), James Michael Dooley (additional), Ramin Djawadi (additional), Klaus Badelt & Trevor Morris (additional). WHEW! -- CD.).]"Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,095 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Zimmer pretty much does what is asked of him. Why blame him for The Dark Knight, when Nolan uses music as a sound design element in all of his films? Why blame him, when Jerry Bruckheimer is in love with non-traditional music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 No flutes? That is the lamest reason to reject a score ever...And I'm a huge fan of Zimmer's scores, I'm sure I would prefer AWE to anything Silvestri wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,248 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Well there were flutes in AWE. Quite a few, in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Also an oboe solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I created and run the rejected scores site.The final score had a few groups of composer working together writing pieces, which were rejected or used. Might as well hire a temp track mimicing robot who always says "yes" and spare Silvestri from wasting his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 It's really too bad.Oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 195 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 A Pirates of the Caribbean score by Danny ElfmanI agree...Personally, I wouldn't be so pessimistic. I know many of you guys hate Elfman Mission: Impossible score, but for me it's still one of his best works and a very pleasant surprise when I first heard it, it just fits the movie perfectly. That's why I think he could've surprised us very positively, had he been given a chance to do a PotC score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Also, a Potter done by 80s Horner. I think he could have done a wonderful job.I'd much prefer a Potter score done by 80s Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I much prefer the Potter scores by 2000s Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,083 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Well there were flutes in AWE. Quite a few, in fact.Yea... seems Bruckheimer finally saw a little glimmer of sense.Doesn't make up for his barbaric music decisions on pretty much everything else he's ever produced though. I swear that if in some parallel universe I become a director working with Bruckheimer, my first question would be "so, do you think a 150 piece orchestra is big enough?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I'd like a Mission Impossible score by John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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