Empire Magazine's 500 Greatest Movies

[Jim 6,031]

They tout it as the most ambitious movie poll ever attempted, comprising of votes by readers, industry pros and film critics. There are some very surprising entries in the first installment of countdown and one or two moves which absolutely shouldn't have made the top 5000, let alone 500.

So anyway: 500-401

[MissPadmé 17]

496. Superman Returns?????

I never thought this would even be in a top 500 list!

[FBC Director 10,390]

I have enough trouble coming up with a list of 100 movies I've actually seen and enjoyed.

[Jim 6,031]

That's why it's a poll and not Empire's own selection.

496. Superman Returns?????

It gets worse.

[FBC Director 10,390]

I'm just hopeful Octopussy, Supergirl and Star Trek V: The Final Frontier are in the lead!

[crocodile 9,430]

Here we go again. Anther pointless list. Why should anyone be bothered with such nonsense as this kinds of things? I'm not talking about the thread, but the idea of making such things as top 500 lists of anything every few weeks. Does anyone actually care about these things?

Karol

[Jim 6,031]

Apparently the readers of Empire magazine care. Sales of the mag always rise considerably when they do their annual poll. Everyone it seems, loves a list.

[FBC Director 10,390]

Anyone up for predictions on No. 1?

[crocodile 9,430]

But what for? Can't people form their own opinions anymore?

Karol

[Jim 6,031]

Anyone up for predictions on No. 1?

Either Star Wars, something from LotR or Shawshank. That is usually the way with populist lists.

But what for? Can't people form their own opinions anymore?

Oh come on, why the grouchiness? It's just a bit of fun. Cheer up

[crocodile 9,430]

Maybe you're right. But then again every single magazine makes a list of this sort and it becomes really uneventful after a while. And some people take these things really seriously, as if it mattered anything. That's what bothers me.

Karol

[Jim 6,031]

Well if LotR:FotR comes first, then I'll take the list damn serious and treat it with the respect it deserves!

[FBC Director 10,390]

[Marian Schedenig 10,976]

It isn't a list of "greatest movies" if KOTCS (which shouldn't be on the list anyway) is included because "enough of you loved it to get it on to this list".

[Ollie 1,357]

I have enough trouble coming up with a list of 100 movies I've actually seen and enjoyed.

Me too. 500 is a bit too ambitious for me.

[Greg1138 3]

Well if LotR:FotR comes first, then I'll take the list damn serious and treat it with the respect it deserves!

As a regular reader of Empire since Darth Maul appeared on the cover all those years ago, I predict it WILL be a Lord Of The Rings movie at the top spot, but not that one....Fellowship will undoubtedly be in the top 20, but I think the top spot will go to Return of The King....

....that's if it doesn't go to Star Wars.......again.....

[Jim 6,031]

Don't mind the tramp, he's sleeping.

[John Crichton 4]

50 critics, 150 of "Hollywood's finest" (whatever that means), and...10,000 readers? I hope the results are weighted.

[FBC Director 10,390]

I only saw ROTK once. I may return to it once more when I need a cure for insomnia.

[Koray Savas 2,256]

The second I saw Indy4 before Full Metal Jacket, I stopped reading.

[JoeinAR 1,955]

Saw made the list, Ociean's Eleven both are worse films than Superman Returns, and Ben Hur @491 give me a break.

Ben Hur is a top 100 film

Into the Wild, POTC dead man's chest thats a piece of sh!t

typical brit list designed to envoke outrage.

[Nick Parker 3,049]

"Jaws" better be there in the top 100. And something is really wrong if "The Ten Commandments" does not show up at some point.

[Ollie 1,357]

Saw made the list, Ociean's Eleven both are worse films than Superman Returns, and Ben Hur @491 give me a break.

Ben Hur is a top 100 film

Into the Wild, POTC dead man's chest thats a piece of sh!t

typical brit list designed to envoke outrage.

I'm not even gonna bother to read it.

[crocodile 9,430]

Into the Wild, POTC dead man's chest thats a piece of sh!t

typical brit list designed to envoke outrage.

Indeed.

Karol

[Jim 6,031]

Saw made the list, Ociean's Eleven both are worse films than Superman Returns, and Ben Hur @491 give me a break.

Ben Hur is a top 100 film

Into the Wild, POTC dead man's chest thats a piece of sh!t

typical brit list designed to envoke outrage.

Heh heh!

Prejudices aside, I think it's safe to assume the outcome would be pretty much the same if The Hollywood Reporter polled it's own readership. The demographics are the same. Now kindly put the nationality issues you have to bed, thanks.

I personally think it's shocking that Indy IV and The Phantom Menace made the list, but that's the public for you.

[Greg1138 3]

typical brit list designed to envoke outrage.

Hell yeah - we will take over in the end with our odd ways....

[Hitch 60]

as long as 10 of my movies are in the Top 10, then I'll be happy

[indy4 160]

The Ones that shouldn't be in the list:

BTTF II

Superman Returns

Batman

King Kong

Batman Returns

The ones that should be higher in the list:

Sweeney Todd

Indy 4

Unbreakable

Finding Nemo

The ones that are rightly placed:

Prisoner of Azkaban

Dead Man's Chest

Phantom Menace

Dumb and Dumber

Spiderman

Beauty and the Beast

Spiderman 2

Men in Black

Little Miss Sunshine

indy4 - who wouldn't be surprised if TDK got number one...

[Jim 6,031]

500 is a helluva lot of movies, therefore I think BTTF II, King Kong and one of Burton's Batman movies should be permitted a place.

[Richard P 5,007]

One good thing I will say about this list: it's been made by those who recognise good cinema made after the dinosaurs died out. We need one of those 'top 50 score' polls by the same people.

The following IMo should be nowhere near this list:

KotCS

Superman Returns

Phantom Menace

BTTF deserves more than 'a place'. It should be in the top 50 as far as I'm concerned.

[indy4 160]

Well I would hope that BTTF earns a spot in the top 50 at least. I'd say that II is one of the worst films I've ever seen, and I wouldn't mind it if III got a place on the list, but I think it should've been between 500-400.

King Kong was okay, I don't have too big of an objection to it. Same for Batman. Batman Returns, on the other hand, does not deserve a spot on the list.

[Richard P 5,007]

I thought II was a decent follow up. Sure, it lost most of the charm of the original, but it still had the energy of all the original cast behind it.

[Jim 6,031]

Yeah sorry, I edited my post. I forgot to put II after BTTF.

The original BTTF should be in the top 20 as far as I'm concerned. One of the best family film's ever made.

[indy4 160]

Agreed. Though it's not my absolute favorite film, it is probably the closest to perfection film has ever reached. It has perfect amount of action, thrills, story, humor, romance, and drama. And it has great music, acting, direction, pacing, etc.

[Koray Savas 2,256]

The ones that should be higher in the list:

Indy 4

Indy 4 doesn't even belong on that list. And BTTF being the closest to perfection? Please, there's nothing special about it.

[Hitch 60]

For once I agree with you.

[Koray Savas 2,256]

[Red 75]

The ones that should be higher in the list:

Indy 4

Indy 4 doesn't even belong on that list. And BTTF being the closest to perfection? Please, there's nothing special about it.

Of course there is.

[Desplat13 1]

And no. 1 is......................

no. 436.

Odd. Must be a mistake...

[indy4 160]

The ones that should be higher in the list:

Indy 4

Indy 4 doesn't even belong on that list. And BTTF being the closest to perfection? Please, there's nothing special about it.

Of course there is.

For once I agree with you.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

typical brit list designed to envoke outrage.

Hell yeah - we will take over in the end with our odd ways....

The days of the British Empire are long gone!

[Jim 6,031]

And BTTF being the closest to perfection? Please, there's nothing special about it.

You don't know what you're talking about lad.

[Marian Schedenig 10,976]

BTTF II is a much too intelligent film to be on any "worst" list.

[indy4 160]

And BTTF being the closest to perfection? Please, there's nothing special about it.

Great Scott! You can't be serious?

[Jim 6,031]

1.21 GIGAWATTS!!! IT'S 400-301!!!

[JoeinAR 1,955]

Yeah sorry, I edited my post. I forgot to put II after BTTF.

The original BTTF should be in the top 20 as far as I'm concerned. One of the best family film's ever made.

I wouldn't put Back to the Future on the list. Its a nice sweet high budget B film. but thats it.

[Jim 6,031]

It's difficult to call, but I think this could possibly the most wrong about anything you have ever been. A new personal best, so to speak.

[indy4 160]

Should be Higher:

Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl

Planet of the Apes

Revenge of the Sith

Nightmare Before Christmas

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

Should be Lower:

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Ratatouille

Transformers

Just Right:

The Incredibles

The Goonies

Wall E

Monsters, Inc.

The Sixth Sense

[Morlock 11]

It's difficult to call, but I think this could possibly the most wrong about anything you have ever been. A new personal best, so to speak.

I think the truth is somewhere in between your different positions, but closer to Joe's. The movies are not great. But they are certainly better than your average 80's teen movie.

[indy4 160]

I side strongly with Quint.