Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 17/06/2016 at 10:05 AM, nightscape94 said: Got The X-Files blu ray in the mail the other day. Great release. Two really good in-depth features of the making of the event series. One covering the bookends and the other covering the in-between episodes. It was actually more than I was expecting, so I was pleasantly surprised. The three commentaries are nice too. I bought this recently too, but haven't watched it yet because I'm still binging through the rest of the series on blu-ray. I'm up to Season 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I've only seen very bad IQ from Blood Simple. Unless they find a brand new print in some vault, the movie is beyond rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's a new, restored 4K digital transfer, approved by Sonnenfeld and the Coens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Must be great then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 What good are these 4K releases if they keep fucking up the colour timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 They are only 'adjusting' the colours because they want to give old movies a new sheen. When upgrading, people want to see differences, or else they feel cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The difference is the new colours look like shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The importance lies in the difference. The business of remastering has never been about restoring but always about adding or changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, Shatner's Rug said: The difference is the new colours look like shit. I much prefer the Raiders blu-ray over the dvds, I've seen the comparison shots. The film looks pristine, it's fabulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I agree, it looks good...it looks very very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 JWFan's resident Sheldon Cooper is just moaning about micro issues again. It's his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The detail of course looks better. But the colours are awful. I'm also heartbroken that the new ID4 blu-ray looks gold and yellow throughout compared to the old blu-ray. To hell with this new shit. I'm glad I bought two copies of the old one just in case one fucks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Shatner's Rug said: The detail of course looks better. But the colours are awful. Colours look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Colours look good. If you like movies with a piss yellow hue, I suppose it looks fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Didnt really notice it when I revisited Raiders last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Shatner's Rug said: But the colours are awful. Awful? Really?? Oh what a drama queen! I think the colours look better. Indiana Jones looks like he's truly baking in that sweltering Tunisian heat. The Golden Idol scene too, the way his face and frame is lit, it looks stunningly vivid compared to the original look. Better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 You just like movies changed to look piss yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 No, I'm just not a whining little biatch who has too much time on his hands and pointless priorities in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Yes, I can see the yellow hue too now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 In Australia, thats still the top of the line model, Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, Lonnegan said: No, I'm just not a whining little biatch who has too much time on his hands and pointless priorities in life. It's people like you who let careless Hollywood blu-ray mastering departments get away with poor colour accuracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Didnt really notice it when I revisited Raiders last week. I noticed the bloke in the t-shirt. . The cobra's reflection has been removed. Yah boo sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 There's definitely some "removal of the strings" with digital tinkering I can approve of. Snake reflections being one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Stefancos said: What? The t-shirt guy is quite a famous mistake. You can see a man walk behind Indy, dressed in a white t-shirt, as he sits nursing a drink at a table, right after Marion has (spoilers!) been "killed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I've never noticed a color difference on Raiders between the DVD and the Blu-Ray. Aren't they both from the same master? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Drax hadn't noticed either, till he read it online. Then the sleepless nights started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, Mr. Breathmask said: I've never noticed a color difference on Raiders between the DVD and the Blu-Ray. Aren't they both from the same master? No. The blu-ray is a brand new master. 11 minutes ago, Lonnegan said: Drax hadn't noticed either, till he read it online. Then the sleepless nights started. Oh go have some more kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Twos plenty thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Too right mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Shatner's Rug said: No. The blu-ray is a brand new master. Is there a comparison available anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 There was an old HD version of Raiders for TV. The one with the CGI cliff. I recall comparison shots and the new transfer looked better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, Mr. Breathmask said: Is there a comparison available anywhere? Not that I know of. I'm just using the discs themselves when I play them and the colour timing is very different. I wasn't as pissed off about it for Raiders as I was for ID4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 How does the Raiders blu compare to the 90's transfer used by the BBC? Thats my reference point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 6 hours ago, Shatner's Rug said: What good are these 4K releases if they keep fucking up the colour timing? Not ALL 4K remasters have altered colors, Drax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, Jay said: Not ALL 4K remasters have altered colors, Drax. I couldn't find the word "all" in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Mr. Breathmask said: I've never noticed a color difference on Raiders between the DVD and the Blu-Ray. Aren't they both from the same master? Wow, I'm surprised you haven't noticed! It's a COMPLETELY different master. The DVD master was done in 2003 when the DVD box set came out; Then brand new remasters were struck in 2012 for the BD trilogy box set. For whatever reason, TOD and TLC look the same, but Raiders has a yellow/golden tint added to everything, but I dunno why (I suppose its Spielberg-approved...). Here are some comparisons for you http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/18041 http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/18040 It's very noticeable. The old colors were better. EDIT: Oh, there's a video too Look how grey they made the sky in that first shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 27 minutes ago, Stefancos said: How does the Raiders blu compare to the 90's transfer used by the BBC? Thats my reference point To quote Belloq...It's beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Thank you. Indeed it's different. I prefer the Blu-ray actually. I can see why Spielberg wanted it changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 He needs to sue his eye doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,327 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The blu-ray looks warmer and more natural. Grass in the dvd looks artificially green. It's a case of colder vs warmer colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, Alexcremers said: Grass in the dvd looks artificially green. Looks like the over the top greens of The Shire in The Hobbit, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 To be clear, those aren't comparisons between the DVD and the BD; It's comparisons between the HD print that aired on TV and the BD. Though its possible the HD master that aired on TV is the same master used for the DVD set, I dunno (obviously, a major difference is the HD version had that new CGI cliff shot the DVD didn't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 39 minutes ago, Shatner's Rug said: He needs to sue his eye doctor. No, you need a better TV than the shite tube you're currently using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 What post are you replying to there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Edited, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, Lonnegan said: No, you need a better TV than the shite tube you're currently using. I ain't the one with yellow fever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/18041 http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/18040 It's very noticeable. The old colors were better. I know you probably think I'm being contrary just for the hell of it, but I'm actually surprised you, Drax and anybody else for that matter think the original shots are better. I've seen these comparison shots before as well as a load more, and to me, the blu-ray image absolutely blows the previous versions away in every possible sense. Spielberg knew what he was doing when he made the change, that much is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Well, I haven't actually sat down and watched my blu ray yet (haven't even taken the shrinkwrap off), I'm only going by the screen shots I've seen online. Perhaps I will agree when I finally have time to watch it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 The thing is, analysis of the blu-ray and the 35mm version of the film point to a remastering which strived to restore the original look of the film, with its yellow and gold tint. Sorry Drax, but you are merely perpetuating a myth out of a misremembered vision based on a dvd remaster you saw on your Sony Trinitron one time. The top is the 35mm; middle is the blu; and the bottom is your precious dvd. I can get more of these if you need to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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