filmmusic 1,823 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 This should interest you, filmmusic!http://variety.com/2015/film/global/bfi-to-release-newly-restored-4k-doctor-zhivago-1201567387/Oh, wow, thank you!Glad I haven't bought this title yet.Hope it makes its way to Bluray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 There's a new Blu Ray of The Fifth Element coming out, sourced from a new 4K Remasterhttp://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=265678Do I really have to buy this movie again?First there was the DVDThen the Superbit DVDThen the "Ultimate Edition" DVD, the only time it's been a 2 disc setThen the original US Blu RayThen the remastered US Blu RayThen the JP Blu RayThen the French Blu Ray with Gaumont's 4K remasterNow Sony's doing their own 4K remaster!Damn!http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/multi_list.php?hd_multiID=211 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Maybe it' s something better of all those (something between US remaster and French 4K remaster).By the way, Bram Stoker's Dracula too is coming in this series (and Leon the professional) in brand new 4K restoration.The original Bluray was much controversial (too dark obscuring some optical effects, altered colors like green moonlight and green fires), so I'm hoping this will be much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm sure Dracula will be betterAnd yes I hope the new US 4K Fifth Element is somewhere between the overly sharp US Remaster and overly warm French 4K Remaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,176 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 By the way, Bram Stoker's Dracula too is coming in this series (and Leon the professional) in brand new 4K restoration.The original Bluray was much controversial (too dark obscuring some optical effects, altered colors like green moonlight and green fires), so I'm hoping this will be much better.Oh good. I never picked up Dracula because I've only read bad things about the image quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 By the way, Bram Stoker's Dracula too is coming in this series (and Leon the professional) in brand new 4K restoration.The original Bluray was much controversial (too dark obscuring some optical effects, altered colors like green moonlight and green fires), so I'm hoping this will be much better.Oh good. I never picked up Dracula because I've only read bad things about the image quality.You'll have to put up with a very bad artwork though!And: it still could be worse, quality-wise than the previous one. We don't know the level they tampered with it yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Ugh!They should have used this poster: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Ugh!They should have used this poster:Of course!That's very simple and elegant!Can't understand that there are people approving those covers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,176 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 There's ugly covers... and then there's ugly covers that are entirely unrelated to the actual film:Apparently there was some sort of rights issue though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I only own the remastered Blu of Fifth Element so I'm on board for the new 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I have a funny thing to tell about a European blu-ray release of The Fifth Element which was in stores for a time. Never thought it could be possible but I had gotten a workprint version of the film (very similar to the image below of The Transporter). Because that was the one being sold by a dutch blu-ray manufacturing company that isn't exactly known for its quality assurance. A few complaints later they had no choice but to remaster the disc, and send me a new copy free of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Are you serious?Does it have deleted scenes or different music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The menu and everything else was OK, but I remember there being something off from the moment the movie started, it had the information on the borders as you can see in the screenshot, but the film also transitioned from one aspect ratio to another and back again. There was also something wrong with the audio, and I can't say if it had deleted scenes or anything else out of the ordinary, cause after the first couple of minutes I didn't bother with the rest of the film. More than a little bummed as I was totally stoked to watch it in Hi-def.Now that I mention this, I was wrong before in saying I got a replacement copy. I know the company had to stop selling it and re-master it, but it would take time, so the store took back that faulty edition and I ordered the US remastered edition instead.I don't think I will be getting the 4K disc, as that one I have still looks damn spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 By the way, Bram Stoker's Dracula too is coming in this series (and Leon the professional) in brand new 4K restoration.The original Bluray was much controversial (too dark obscuring some optical effects, altered colors like green moonlight and green fires), so I'm hoping this will be much better. Oh good. I never picked up Dracula because I've only read bad things about the image quality. You'll have to put up with a very bad artwork though! I got that beat. I got that beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Too sexy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Is that a hand print I see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Got slapped too hard!Figures that David Mann would be the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 The 40th Anniversary Python Holy Grail Box Set Doubles As a Working Catapult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,176 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Run away! Run away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Bloody brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Amazon is having a Criterion sale for September. Not quite 50% off, but close enough.The nice thing is that it doesn't exclude pre-orders like usual. So I placed orders for Moonrise Kingdom, Mulholland Dr., Ikiru, and Don't Look Back for $22.49 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'm picking up Room with a View from that sale:http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film5/blu-ray_reviews_68/a_room_with_a_view_blu-ray.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Room With A View is very grainy, isn't it? Wrong stock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Filmmusic would argue that that's how it's supposed to look and that it represents the directors wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I would argue 'cheap stock'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I would argue 'cheap stock'. Alex, this is an old film and this is how films (in 35mm) are like!This Bluray is coming from a brand new 4K restoration!I guess you have got used too much to the digital look of the contemporary films?It doesn't look more grainy that hundreds of other non-digital films that have been released on Bluray and haven't been degrained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I certainly wouldn't qualify Room With A View as an "old" film, in terms of the whole history of film making.And 35mm doesnt not automatically mean tons of grain. Films from the late 70's and the 80's were often done on cheap film stock, to save cost. Just ask Martin Scorcese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yep, and Ivory/Merchant loved to save a nickel. Some actors still didn't receive their money. I merely have the DVD of Room With A View (1985) but I thought it looked way more grainy than average and with less detail. There are older film than Room With A View (yes, there are!) and they almost have no grain to speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'll leave this sad bit of news here: William Becker, who vitalized Janus Films and was a key player in the creation of The Criterion Collection, has passed away at 88."Nothing beats seeing a new generation of audiences get blown away by a Bergman or a Fellini, a Renoir or a Truffaut" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 10 screenshot comparisons between old Bluray of Home Alone and new 4K remaster (from a member at bluray.com).Which do you prefer?http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/143371/picture:0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 The 4k remaster is definitely sharper. I would go for that one. If I had any interest in ever owning this movie, which I dont.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 The one with more grain is much sharper, filmmusic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 The 4K version, both in terms of picture quality (but that's obvious) and colour (the Blu-Ray has some sort of pinkish tint...).The 4K version does look a bit darker, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 So much black crush on the 4K one, it's hideous.4K has the potential to be better due to the higher resolution, but I wish people would get over themselves at how they think everything in 4K is automatically better just by the virtue alone of being 4K. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I prefer the grain of the 4K, but the brightness and colors of the previous Bluray.The black crush is evident in the 2nd comparison. It hides details.Also, while in some screenshots the colors don't look that different, in others they are much different (eg. 1st)I LOVE This movie, I watch it every Christmas, but I'm not sure I'll upgrade. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Faraon, a Polish epic from 1966 comes restored to its original form on Bluray in October as part of the boxMartin Scorsese Presents: Masterpieces of Polish Cinema Vol.1.Now, I haven't seen this, nor I have seen Scott's Exodus, but seeing the trailer, this looks much more real to me!https://vimeo.com/123228518 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 1966?! That trailer makes the film look like it's shot yesterday! Alex - who never saw Faraon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 True. The picture quality is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Good quality film stock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It's sad that films from half a century ago look better than anything made in the last 15 years, since the proliferation of DI. Locking films into a permanent state of 2K resolution was a collosally shortsighted decision.I'm not even sure why filmmakers bother shooting on film anymore when they insist on finishing with a DI. The fine grain and texture of celluloid is smothered away and replaced with a processed, filtered and digital appearance that plagues all commercial films now.It seems in the effort to "improve" film stocks to match the clarity of digital cameras, they've actually removed their character.There's fewer examples better than the abomination of Kaminski's KOTCS. That he was trying to replicate Slocombe's trilogy in his DI is one hell of an indictment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Is there anyone thinking of buying the Lost In Space complete series?The Bluray release is currently the cheapest at deepdiscount.http://www.deepdiscount.com/lost-in-space-the-complete-adventures/024543113867if you ask me, I don't think the more expensive price of the cd set, is justifiable.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 $150 for 14 hours of music isn't justifiable? WTF? If each CD in the set was sold for $20, it'd come to $240! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 $100 for 14 hours of music isn't justifiable? WTF?I thought it was $150.edit: ok, i see you changed it.And anyway, if 74 hours of video & audio are worth $111, shouldn't 14 hours of music alone be much cheaper?restoration of complete show (around 74 hours of content) on 18 Blurays (more expensive than cd discs) and larger box: around $111-150 currently at shopsrestoration of music alone (14 hours) on 12 cds and small box: $150??????I think I'm being logical here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It doesn't work that way. Picture plus video appeals to a wider consumer base, and the music alone takes more time to make presentable when it doesn't have sound effects to hide behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Where's that little blurb by Lukas Kendall?Short version: Producing CDs costs a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Where's that little blurb by Lukas Kendall?Short version: Producing CDs costs a lot of money.You mean restoring the whole show for the Blurays cost far less?I'm just asking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Konstantinos, I'm really surprised by your ignorance on this subject! You're comparing apples to oranges: A TV show box set will be sold in stores around the world, to a wide audience of people who grew up watching the show, and sells hundreds of thousands of copies. The Soundtrack box set is sold online to 1,500 fans in a super super specialized market! And yes, it cost a small fortune to restore this music!Read what Lukas Kendall said about the similar Mission: Impossible boxI picked up my copy of this today from La-La Land. It's safe to say I am always proud of the albums I work on, and I hope people enjoy them...and this one is especially pleasing. I had a great time working with (and for) friends, and I think the team has done outstanding work. Jon Burlingame curated a magnificent collection of this famous show, the design by Joe Sikoryak is beautiful, and it all sounds great thanks to our team of engineers. MV and Matt at La-La Land wrote some BIG checks to make this outstanding package become a reality. You'll probably never know how big, and it's not for me to say, but I said "I'm so sorry" to them on more than one occasion. I want to explain just how hard television projects are like this. They are exponentially more difficult than a CD of a film soundtrack. There we are dealing with maybe 70 minutes of music from a two hour movie. There were 171 hours of Mission: Impossible produced, and I don't know how many hours of music recorded, all of which was laboriously (and expensively) transferred so Jon could select the 7+ hours presented on these 6 discs. It was a massive undertaking. The Q/C and proofreading alone was an endurance test. I've been involved now with several television soundtrack box sets or series of albums, notably Star Trek (and ST:TNG) and the CDs Jon did for FSM of Man From U.N.C.L.E. I think I saw a post asking why there would be an album of Then Came Bronson, of all things, instead of far more famous and probably deserving shows. The answer is because I could. I liked the George Duning pilot score for Bronson, and the title was part of a catalog we were dealing with at the time. The studio had already transferred the Bronson scores for their own preservation, and I had all the episode scores on hand to do a 2CD set for Intrada (after putting the pilot and two Gil Melle scores on our TV Omnibus compilation at FSM). There was only one year of Bronson produced, but it was a ton of work to make that album. Years ago I did a CD of the Logan's Run TV series, for which only half a year was produced, and THAT was a ton of work! So, TV is hard. You have to sort through hours and hours of music to assemble the best album. And it's expensive to transfer and evaluate all that music. It's inevitable that when we release something like Mission: Impossible, people ask "Where's Batman?" or "Where's Mannix?" or whatever it might be. The answer is because sometimes we can't get the rights. But regardless—television projects cost a fortune. Why does the Mission box set cost $99? That's still less than $20 a disc, but I appreciate that it's a lot for collectors. The answer is because there are fewer collectors than ever...people lose interest, people steal music, people pass away. Let's face it, some people would have given $500 on Kickstarter to make this album happen. Others would NOT buy it if it were $9.99. So these albums are necessarily going to be produced in smaller runs, at premium prices. It's the only way. If the label makes the dream item a reality and then takes a bath, they're never going to do it again. If you don't want a Mission: Impossible box set—this post is not for you. That's fine! I am speaking to those people who MIGHT want it but are thinking they want to get something else instead this week, or they are waiting for Batman, or they wish this album was Batman, or they're annoyed that they have to pay $100 and then shipping. (Incidentally—the box set is actually selling great! The problem is that it cost SO much that it has to perform even better...or else there aren't going to be any more like this.) If you want this Mission box—please buy it. We need you. If you want more television collections, you have to come out and support this one. It's a great set, and you'll like it. That's all! Mission accomplished! Thanks! Lukas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Konstantinos, I'm really surprised by your ignorance on this subject! You're comparing apples to oranges: A TV show box set will be sold in stores around the world, to a wide audience of people who grew up watching the show, and sells hundreds of thousands of copies. The Soundtrack box set is sold online to 1,500 fans in a super super specialized market! And yes, it cost a small fortune to restore this music!Ok, I can accept this about the copies and the specialised market.But not the other argument.I still think that to restore the whole show for Bluray presentation (video and audio) is much more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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