ricsim88 239 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Definitely is very close to the ost version, but he added a few twists. BPO performance is top notch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,216 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Presto Classical is currently offering up to 25% off John Williams sheet music, including many of the Hal Leonard editions. The offer lasts until the end of January 2016.http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/sm/feature|johnwilliams-b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,414 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Awesome! I may consider getting the Dance of the Witches full score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 The offer seems quite good, but I can see the scores are better priced at Sheet Music Plus. Music from the Star Wars Saga costs $85 with the offer, while I bought it at sheetmusicplus for $68. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vclguy90 1 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 According to Lucks Music, American Journey is coming to SE. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 223 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Oh! Nice, this is very welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 199 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 A sneak peek of The Force Awakens Signature Edition Suite is available on the Hal Leonard site. Click on the "Closer Look" button to see the first two pages from each movement. http://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4491705&lid=22&keywords=Force%20awakens&&subsiteid=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vclguy90 1 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just received my copy of TFA. I love it. I'm scanning it in as well as The Star Wars Saga later today. (FYI for the traders out there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KingPin 199 Posted April 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2016 Coming soon: Wide Receiver (Theme from NBC Football). According to the website, it is scored for full orchestra with a duration of three minutes. It will be interesting to see how it has been reworked. http://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490828&lid=151&keywords=John%20williams%20signature&subsiteid=1& Bespin, pete, ocelot and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 199 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Audio of the NBC Football Theme, the Hal Leonard John Williams Signature Edition: http://www.halleonard.com/viewaudio.action?itemId=4490827&fileName=http://s3.amazonaws.com/halleonard-audio/04490827.mp3 zoltan_902 and aviazn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,787 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I like that version of the football theme. It's got a fun sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,980 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 9 hours ago, KingPin said: Audio of the NBC Football Theme, the Hal Leonard John Williams Signature Edition: http://www.halleonard.com/viewaudio.action?itemId=4490827&fileName=http://s3.amazonaws.com/halleonard-audio/04490827.mp3 Really nice development of the tune in pure JW style FYI, Williams performed it live only once, in Chicago, back in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Psycho Pianist 216 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 5 hours ago, TownerFan said: Really nice development of the tune in pure JW style FYI, Williams performed it live only once, in Chicago, back in 2008. I presume there's no recording available of that performance? Would be great to hear the live version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,174 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Wow, this is terrific! Too bad the other two movements of his football suite are only available to listen to in their band recordings (not full orchestra). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stempel 136 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Wow! It's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 326 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Quite March of the Resistance-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,176 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 12 hours ago, hanser said: Quite March of the Resistance-like. yes, but in reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 493 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 On April 1, 2016 at 6:06 PM, KingPin said: Coming soon: Wide Receiver (Theme from NBC Football). According to the website, it is scored for full orchestra with a duration of three minutes. It will be interesting to see how it has been reworked. http://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490828&lid=151&keywords=John%20williams%20signature&subsiteid=1& Wide receiver? Kim Kardashian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,261 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 He he he... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KingPin 199 Posted April 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2017 New Signature Edition scores available for purchase on Hal Leonard Publishing website: Suite from The Book Thief The Duel from The Adventures of Tintin Not yet published but available for preorder: Suite from The BFG Disco Stu, Loert, That_Bloke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,176 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I am pleased he is releasing the BFG. While it probably will not a standard at the JW greatest hits concerts, I think it will get some decent performance time at any symphony with a pushy flutist. bollemanneke and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,483 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I love the BFG suite recording on S/W III so much and more every time I hear it. Same goes for the whole album, it's a wonderful listening experience start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 199 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 More upcoming: Love Theme from Superman "That's Entertainment" (arranged by JW) Tribute to Film Composers Men of Yorktown from Midway (I really hope it's the version from the new Boston Pops recording!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,176 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 the superman love theme, while great, is at the same time weird. I would guess the Men of Yorktown is the same. Now, what I would really like to see is a three-movement suite from ET: Abandoned and pursued, stargazers, adventure on earth--a perfect JW symphony for the ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,162 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just out of interest: 1. Are these signature editions the only official JW sheet muisc out there (excluding arrangements by others?) 2. Is there a comprehensive list of this entire series? I thought I'd foudn one a couploe of days ago, but then the BFG wasn't included along with a bunch of other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 199 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 5 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Just out of interest: 1. Are these signature editions the only official JW sheet muisc out there (excluding arrangements by others?) 2. Is there a comprehensive list of this entire series? I thought I'd foudn one a couploe of days ago, but then the BFG wasn't included along with a bunch of other stuff. 1) These are the only non-bootleg, official versions of JW scores that are commercially made available to the general public. 2) The Hal Leonard website has the comprehensive list: https://www.halleonard.com/search/search.action?menuid=1788&seriesfeature=&subsiteid=6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,162 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 7,912 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Sorry to pop-up this old thread. But I have questions about the Hal Leonard Editions scores. All the reductions and solo/duets arrangements published in this Edition, were they all be written by John Williams himself? Are there exceptions in this list? I see that several concertos where published with a piano reduction, are there his own arrangements? I want to know, especially for those ones: https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=849954&lid=1&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841984&lid=4&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841788&lid=8&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=842114&lid=6&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4491243&lid=9&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841041&lid=13&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841675&lid=15&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841055&lid=20&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=842099&lid=25&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=849035&lid=27&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841158&lid=28&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841523&lid=34&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841671&lid=38&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841672&lid=52&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841505&lid=56&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4491071&lid=58&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490945&lid=62&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841382&lid=64&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841674&lid=76&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490842&lid=90&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490844&lid=95&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490393&lid=98&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490966&lid=108&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841484&lid=112&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 Another question. The Book Thief piano suite seems so have been arranged by Williams himself. Are there other piano or reductions like that he also published recently? I just saw "The BFG piano suite" by example. Did John Williams arranged it himself?https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=192070&lid=16&composer=John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 199 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Sorry to pop-up this old thread. But I have questions about the Hal Leonard Editions scores. All the reductions and solo/duets arrangements published in this Edition, were they all be written by John Williams himself? Are there exceptions in this list? I see that several concertos where published with a piano reduction, are there his own arrangements? I want to know, especially for those ones: https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=849954&lid=1&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841984&lid=4&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841788&lid=8&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=842114&lid=6&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4491243&lid=9&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841041&lid=13&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841675&lid=15&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841055&lid=20&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=842099&lid=25&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=849035&lid=27&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841158&lid=28&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841523&lid=34&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841671&lid=38&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841672&lid=52&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841505&lid=56&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6& https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4491071&lid=58&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490945&lid=62&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841382&lid=64&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841674&lid=76&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490842&lid=90&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490844&lid=95&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490393&lid=98&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=4490966&lid=108&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=841484&lid=112&menuid=1788&subsiteid=6 Another question. The Book Thief piano suite seems so have been arranged by Williams himself. Are there other piano or reductions like that he also published recently? I just saw "The BFG piano suite" by example. Did John Williams arranged it himself?https://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.action?itemid=192070&lid=16&composer=John Anything sold as "Signature Edition" is arranged by Williams himself. I can't speak to any of the non-SE material though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 7,912 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Ok thanks. All those concerti with piano reduction parts, that's intriguing, no? No one has ever been recorded or been played in concert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 199 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I don't know of any concerti album recordings with the piano reduction, but there have been plenty of YouTube videos of some of the concerti being performed as such. I know that the SE oboe/piano arrangement of The Days Between was recorded by Keisuke Wakao and the SE violin/piano arrangement of The Witches of Eastwick was recorded by Gil Shaham. Can't of anything else at the moment but perhaps someone else on these boards might know of something. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 484 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Ok thanks. All those concerti with piano reduction parts, that's intriguing, no? No one has ever been recorded or been played in concert? There is a recording of the Tuba Concerto reduction, performed on bass trombone by Charles Vernon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000QQWQXW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496442050&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=charles+vernon&dpPl=1&dpID=513zGXCbElL&ref=plSrch KingPin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 7,912 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 13 hours ago, Matt S. said: There is a recording of the Tuba Concerto reduction, performed on bass trombone by Charles Vernon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000QQWQXW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496442050&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=charles+vernon&dpPl=1&dpID=513zGXCbElL&ref=plSrch You are right, thanks. I never listened to it I think! 22 hours ago, KingPin said: Anything sold as "Signature Edition" is arranged by Williams himself. I can't speak to any of the non-SE material though. Seems not to be correct. According to this website, the Viktor's Tale Clarinet and Piano Reduction was arranged by Paul Lavender. https://www.musicshopeurope.com/product/hl02500792/viktor-s-tale-from-the-terminal.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 199 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Bespin said: You are right, thanks. I never listened to it I think! Seems not to be correct. According to this website, the Viktor's Tale Clarinet and Piano Reduction was arranged by Paul Lavender. https://www.musicshopeurope.com/product/hl02500792/viktor-s-tale-from-the-terminal.aspx That link you posted is not for the piano reduction but rather for the concert band arrangement, which have the Signature Edition label on them but which are sold by Hal Leonard under their Concert Band Professional Series rather than as SE, which is why I forgot about the concert band versions when typing my previous post (if you go on the Hal Leonard website and search "John Williams Signature Edition" the concert band arrangements do not appear in the results). The concert band versions with the SE label are supervised by Williams but are, in some cases, arranged by other individuals. I say "in some cases" because For the President's Own and one of the Star-Spangled Banner arrangements are by Williams himself. So to your point, there are "Signature Edition" scores that have other arrangers, but I believe that the arrangements by other people are restricted to the Concert Band Professional arrangements. I have purchased and own most of the SE orchestral and piano reduction scores and have yet to see another arranger for the piano reductions. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 7,912 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 50 minutes ago, KingPin said: That link you posted is not for the piano reduction but rather for the concert band arrangement, which have the Signature Edition label on them but which are sold by Hal Leonard under their Concert Band Professional Series rather than as SE, which is why I forgot about the concert band versions when typing my previous post (if you go on the Hal Leonard website and search "John Williams Signature Edition" the concert band arrangements do not appear in the results). The concert band versions with the SE label are supervised by Williams but are, in some cases, arranged by other individuals. I say "in some cases" because For the President's Own and one of the Star-Spangled Banner arrangements are by Williams himself. So to your point, there are "Signature Edition" scores that have other arrangers, but I believe that the arrangements by other people are restricted to the Concert Band Professional arrangements. I have purchased and own most of the SE orchestral and piano reduction scores and have yet to see another arranger for the piano reductions. I added all those "piano reduction" versions to my page: http://www.goplanete.com/johnwilliams/arranger/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,162 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 A few months ago, I asked this question to Hal Leonard, but never got a reply. I would be very interested in people's thoughts here, though. Regardless of the legal wrangling and nonsense that would undoubtedly be unleashed if 'the powers that be' ever discussed the possibility, do you think it's possible/feasible for all these signature editions to be released in a digital format such as MIDI? I don't know anything about sheet music on paper vs mock-ups at all, but would just like to know if such a thing could be done without too much work. I'm not talking about achieving a perfect mix in those files, only about having all the notes (prefarably with staccato included) without any mistakes in them so that one could listen to and study individual parts. I'd personally be extremely interested in this because I can't read sheet music and let's just say that 80% of fanmade MIDI mock-ups leave a lot to be desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan_902 141 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 5 hours ago, bollemanneke said: A few months ago, I asked this question to Hal Leonard, but never got a reply. I would be very interested in people's thoughts here, though. Regardless of the legal wrangling and nonsense that would undoubtedly be unleashed if 'the powers that be' ever discussed the possibility, do you think it's possible/feasible for all these signature editions to be released in a digital format such as MIDI? I don't know anything about sheet music on paper vs mock-ups at all, but would just like to know if such a thing could be done without too much work. I'm not talking about achieving a perfect mix in those files, only about having all the notes (prefarably with staccato included) without any mistakes in them so that one could listen to and study individual parts. I'd personally be extremely interested in this because I can't read sheet music and let's just say that 80% of fanmade MIDI mock-ups leave a lot to be desired. An interesting question indeed. If I may make a blunt observation; I'm astounded by the number of members on this forum who admit (despite evidently harbouring such an appreciate for fine music) that they cannot read sheet music. Is this just a lack of education, or opportunity? Where I'm from, this is a basic skill taught throughout 12 years of schooling. I own a fairly sizeable collection of the Hal Leonard Signature Edition Deluxe scores. They are quite expensive as they are, even before factoring in exchange rates and international shipping. But once they land in my hands there are zero regrets about cost. They are flawlessly engraved and published, and the ability to grab one off the shelf for instant reference is a huge pleasure. The lack of a digital version of these might very well be due primarily to legal and commercial reasons, but ultimately my guess is as good as anyone's. Making them available commercially would indeed democratise the product, and theoretically serve Hal Leonard's commercial interests. But if I were to choose digital vs paper, I'd still go paper, if for no other reason that the engraving, and the orchestrations are often so dense, that viewing them would be impractical on all but the highest resolution monitors. Maybe hire a computer wiz to hack into Hal Leonard's servers , or, if you're bold enough to go there, even try hacking into JoAnna Kane Music Service's computers . bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,162 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Well, in my country, reading sheet music is only taught in music school. I did do a very brief introduction course on the subject, but neglected it for several reasons: 1. During that period, they decided to overhaul the entire braille sheet music standard and I didn't have the patience to learn to read new and old sheet music. 2. It's rather costly (and quite frankly very impractical) to have sheet music converted into braille. 3. I memorise music much more quickly by listening to individual parts than reading. For some strange reason, I never quite 'understood' music when I just read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 742 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, zoltan_902 said: They are flawlessly engraved and published Unfortunately, no, not at all. Although the layout is visually stunning, there are usually tons of unbelievable errors (wrong notes, wrong accidentals, and if I remember correctly I even saw a few bars in the trumpet part of Duel of Fates that were transposed wrongly). Which is completely unjustified, given the exorbitant cost. ... But of course, we all buy them anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan_902 141 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Score said: Unfortunately, no, not at all. Although the layout is visually stunning, there are usually tons of unbelievable errors (wrong notes, wrong accidentals, and if I remember correctly I even saw a few bars in the trumpet part of Duel of Fates that were transposed wrongly). Which is completely unjustified, given the exorbitant cost. ... But of course, we all buy them anyway Interesting. I suppose ironic to what I claimed above, I would never have picked up on those errors - only if I'm feeding the notes into Sibelius (which is something I've done for a few of the scores in their entirety!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,162 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 How do such errors end up there? Don't they have the perfect version for the recording sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,216 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 This thread has a lot of no avatar people in a row! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Bunch of nobodies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 742 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 23 hours ago, bollemanneke said: How do such errors end up there? Don't they have the perfect version for the recording sessions? It is not so straightforward. Old scores were recorded with handwritten parts, so the SE are relatively recent engravings, often done much after the recording. I have to say that the more recent scores such as TFA do not have such problems (at least, none that I noticed), perhaps because they start from the computer-engraved file that was used for the recording. What bothers me is that they are (or, hopefully, they were) so inefficient in proofreading, given that the score then gets used even by JW himself to conduct. I think even Conrad Pope complained about this some time ago, in a Facebook post that I cannot find anymore. He had conducted from a SE score a cue that he had orchestrated himself for the movie, and he was quite suprised to find that it was engraved so badly. And I am talking of mistakes that can be detected by anyone who can really read music and knows the piece from listening, often appearing even in the main melodic line (e.g. Luke and Leia, the intro of Jurassic Park theme). DangerMotif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,162 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 That's outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,162 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I've been doing some research into alternative formats of Signature Edition music and just heard back from someone who claims that all the Signature Editions are HANDWRITTEN by JW himself, so I'm assuming now that no digital record exists because of that. Could anyone please confirm this (or not)? I thought the SE's were professionally edited material, reportedly containing mistakes, but certainly not handwritten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,216 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 The published signature editions for sale are of course typeset, not handwritten bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMusicMaestro 33 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 No, this information is not correct. Scores and parts are definitely not engraved, although one rental library does hire out, for example, the Theme from JURASSIC PARK in John's own handwriting. This edition was available before JURASSIC PARK was eventually published by Hal Leonard. All works published within the Signature Edition series have been adapted from the original soundtrack version in order to suit the demands of a professional orchestra that intends to perform select excerpts in a standard concert setting. Most changes relate to instrumentation, for example: four horns instead of six, one keyboard player instead of two, and so on. As far as I know all works within the Signature Edition have been recorded, either by John Williams himself or by other conductors. I am not sure whether John himself is arranging / adapting his film music for concert use. I assume he did that job when he was with the Boston Pops. But be assured that all works within the Signature Edition have been authorized by John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,216 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I stand corrected!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 742 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: I've been doing some research into alternative formats of Signature Edition music and just heard back from someone who claims that all the Signature Editions are HANDWRITTEN by JW himself, so I'm assuming now that no digital record exists because of that. Could anyone please confirm this (or not)? I thought the SE's were professionally edited material, reportedly containing mistakes, but certainly not handwritten. The scores published in SE are of course completely typeset. I'm not sure what your source meant. Maybe he meant that the sources for the scores published in SE series are the original handwritten scores (which is of course true), and not, say, a copy made by others. 43 minutes ago, MovieMusicMaestro said: No, this information is not correct. Scores and parts are definitely not engraved, although one rental library does hire out, for example, the Theme from JURASSIC PARK in John's own handwriting. This edition was available before JURASSIC PARK was eventually published by Hal Leonard. I am a bit confused: maybe you wrote a "not" too much? Scores and parts are definitely ENGRAVED, not "not engraved". (I assume that, in this context, in English engraved = typeset, right?). Quote All works published within the Signature Edition series have been adapted from the original soundtrack version in order to suit the demands of a professional orchestra that intends to perform select excerpts in a standard concert setting. Most changes relate to instrumentation, for example: four horns instead of six, one keyboard player instead of two, and so on. As far as I know all works within the Signature Edition have been recorded, either by John Williams himself or by other conductors. I am not sure whether John himself is arranging / adapting his film music for concert use. I assume he did that job when he was with the Boston Pops. But be assured that all works within the Signature Edition have been authorized by John. Concerning what he does or does not, I am almost sure that he arranges the cue as far as the structure is concerned, in the sense that he is the one who decides how to alter the structure of the original film cue (in many cases, there is evidence of this). I am not sure whether he is the person who arranges, indeed, the 6 horns parts for 4 horns, or 2 harps for 1, or cuts away a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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