#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I thought it was derivative rubbish.With the exception of X2, yes.X2 shamelessly rehashes Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The gay parable thing is what makes it rise above the rest of the series, since Singer created something that was personal to him. You can tell when a director's got his/her heart in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,708 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Star Treks are very gay too, one might say. Kirk's relationships with both Spock and Khan are kind of... passionate almost.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just what are you implying about Gene Roddenberry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Especially with Khan. Have you ever really watched his expression after Kirk yells his name? crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,708 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 That's he was a sensitive artist. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Next thing they'll say Top Gun is gay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The gay parable thing is what makes it rise above the rest of the series, since Singer created something that was personal to him. You can tell when a director's got his/her heart in it.Iceman's "coming out" scene is near cringe worthy in its cliche-ness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The gay parable thing is what makes it rise above the rest of the series, since Singer created something that was personal to him. You can tell when a director's got his/her heart in it.Iceman's "coming out" scene is near cringe worthy in its cliche-ness.It's one of the best scenes in the film. You're just a cynical bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,250 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I thought the gay/mutant thing was way too overt in its message. It was already obvious, didn't need to bash us over the head with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I agree with Koray. The metaphor was already perfectly clear in that film and the first one. The "Mom, Dad... there's something I need to tell you" scene really feels like Singer is S P E L L I N G out the already very obvious.It would be OK if the writing in the scene was any good. but there's a line in the scene "Bobby, have you tried...not being a mutant?"I mean, fuck of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It's earnest, and I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It didnt feel earnest at all. The parents came across like complete idiots. The scene has been done to death in TV movies.If anything it feels like it was probably intended as a parody, but didnt quite work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Sure it's been done to death in TV movies... but X2 was released in 2003. I don't think it was quite so cliched at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Sure it's been done to death in TV movies... but X2 was released in 2003. I don't think it was quite so cliched at that point.Dude! It felt like a fucking cliche when i saw the film in 2004!You do know film and TV existed before the 90's right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Are you 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I have been in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,943 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I agree with Koray. The metaphor was already perfectly clear in that film and the first one. The "Mom, Dad... there's something I need to tell you" scene really feels like Singer is S P E L L I N G out the already very obvious. It would be OK if the writing in the scene was any good. but there's a line in the scene "Bobby, have you tried...not being a mutant?" I mean, fuck of! It's a common question a certain section of the population gets asked frequently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 That doesn't excuse the poor writing and the one dimensional depiction of the situation.If i were Gay, or a mutant, that scene would not encourage me to come out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,943 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 That doesn't excuse the poor writing and the one dimensional depiction of the situation. If i were Gay, or a mutant, that scene would not encourage me to come out! You don't get that you don't get it. The point is it does not encourage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I do get it. Actually.I thought the parents and the little brother were too obviously moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,943 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 They were skeered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Meh!Honestly, do you know what you are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,450 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 There's a big difference here. Mutants have awesomely scary and destructive powers. Gays don't. Either way, the parents get to face they're not getting conventional grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Bull! Gays have superpowers too!The ability to dazzle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,250 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 While I thought that line and the whole scene's delivery was a bit showy, it does throw some light on the ridiculousness of some homosexual situations like that. Plenty of people probably asked their kids if they could try to not be gay. A lot of people still think it's a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,450 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Who we are may not be a choice, but what we do and how we live are choices. That being said, suppressing our inherent natures and the need to love and be loved is no way to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,282 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 New Robocop trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Not sure giving him a more human element works in the films favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Cast looks great, Robo looks boring, film looks like a typical 2 star remake. After this one and Total Recall, what film is next? Basic Instinct? Flesh + Blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,282 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Just watched it. Can this even be considered a remake? It's more like a new story that steals some of the original's ideas. Plot and setup all seem fairly different.Might be a decent action film, but it will be forgotten a year later, like the Total Recall remake was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,250 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think the Total Recall remake was forgotten before it even came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,282 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 True.Same with the Dredd remake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,250 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 That one had a lot of good reviews, I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,282 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yes, but still no one remembers it or talks about it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Dredd was a great film, that had nothing to do with that terrible adaptation in the 90s. It was a great action film that unfortunately had terrible marketing and no one bothered to show up. Anyone who enjoys good straight up action movies, I completely recommend the movie. The filmmakers completely understood the character from the comics and made a great movie to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,282 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I hope to see it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,244 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 He does not even look like a Robot, he just looks like a guy in a costume. Weller moved like a walking tank, his look sans the visor was disturbing and actually felt biomechanical. And why does everything look like an Apple product in Hollywood nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Might be a decent action film, but it will be forgotten a year later, like the Total Recall remake was.I think the Total Recall remake was forgotten before it even came out.Then why do you guys keep talking about it?And why does everything look like an Apple product in Hollywood nowadays?Because that's an iRobocop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,177 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Dredd was a great film, that had nothing to do with that terrible adaptation in the 90s. It was a great action film that unfortunately had terrible marketing and no one bothered to show up. Anyone who enjoys good straight up action movies, I completely recommend the movie. The filmmakers completely understood the character from the comics and made a great movie to boot.I don't like action movies but I loved Dredd ... so fans of action movies might somehow not like it. (be warned, Jason!)Personally, I like Dredd because it's visually immersive and its Metal Hurlant (Heavy Metal) factor is high.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,450 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Data is a machine but doesn't walk like one. Human Cylons are some kind of machine that can still bleed and screw, but they don't walk like machines. A Terminator doesn't walk like a machine until it gets its skin ripped off. Why would you expect the new Robocop to thus walk like it has a chrome two by four stuck up its ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,244 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 It was one of the many great things about the original, How menacing that slow, hulking walk was. And brings about much more efficiently the half man-half machine angle. In this one, he just looks like a guy in a suit. He should be called Suitcop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,282 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Yea, it's really nothing like the original film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,244 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 He should not try to be like the original film. But they should have looked at it for more inspiration that just random throway lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Booooo! New Robo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,450 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Too much like original, you no happy. Too different from original, someone else no happy. Only solution is to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,262 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 If you wanna be original, dont remake Robocop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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